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  • Re: Japs get their due!

    Originally posted by SpiritualAmerican View Post
    Ezekiel 18:20- "The person who sins will die. The son will not bear the punishment for the father’s iniquity, nor will the father bear the punishment for the son’s iniquity; the righteousness of the righteous will be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked will be upon himself."

    Deuteronomy 24:16- "Fathers shall not be put to death for their sons, nor shall sons be put to death for their fathers; everyone shall be put to death for his own sin." - "Fathers shall not be put to death for their sons, nor shall sons be put to death for their fathers; everyone shall be put to death for his own sin."

    It took me quite some time to find them. Children are born without sin, and are incapable of sin until they age. Unless you are trying to say that a 3 or 4 year old can commit an act against God.
    This is what happens when false christians try to interpret God's Word to suit their own vain, preconceived notions about what is right and wrong rather than following the entire Bible (KJV 1611) exactly as it is written. If God wanted us to decide morality for ourselves, He would not have left detailed instructions.

    Nothing in those verses of Scripture that you misused and misinterpreted say that "children are born without sin, and are incapable of sin until they age." Let's examine what Scripture actually says on the matter.

    Psalm 51:5
    Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.

    Psalm 58:3
    The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.


    Romans 3:10
    As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:

    Romans 3:23
    For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

    Romans 9:11
    (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth; )


    When anyone dies without accepting Jesus Christ as their personal LORD and Savior, they are doomed to spend eternity in the lake of fire with satan and his minions, whether they are young or old. God chooses who will stand among His elect and who is preordained to eternal torments from the time before they are even a glimmer in their parents' eyes.

    John 6:64-65
    But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.
    And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.

    Romans 9:21
    Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?

    Jude 1:4
    For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.


    In fact, if God does not want you in Heaven, He will see to it Himself that you become deluded and blind to His Truth.

    II Thessalonians 2:11-12
    And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
    That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

    That seems pretty clear to me. But I'm sure that you reject these Bible Facts just like you reject anything else in God's Word that doesn't conform with your vain, twisted sense of "morality."
    II Thessalonians 1:7-9
    And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
    In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
    Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power



    The man who is being progressively sanctified will inescapably sanctify his home, school, politics, economics, science, and all things else by understanding and interpreting all things in terms of the Word of God and by bringing all things under the Dominion of Christ the King. -R.J. Rushdoony

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    • Re: Japs get their due!

      Originally posted by SpiritualAmerican View Post
      Ezekiel 18:20- "The person who sins will die. The son will not bear the punishment for the father’s iniquity, nor will the father bear the punishment for the son’s iniquity; the righteousness of the righteous will be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked will be upon himself."

      Deuteronomy 24:16- "Fathers shall not be put to death for their sons, nor shall sons be put to death for their fathers; everyone shall be put to death for his own sin." - "Fathers shall not be put to death for their sons, nor shall sons be put to death for their fathers; everyone shall be put to death for his own sin."

      It took me quite some time to find them. Children are born without sin, and are incapable of sin until they age. Unless you are trying to say that a 3 or 4 year old can commit an act against God.
      Friend,

      While you make a clear case the children won't be punished for their own sins - were does it say it won't be punished for their own? Doesn't not scripture say we ALL are born into sin?

      And were do you get this age 3 or 4 thing? I have heard other Christians cite it yet never seen the scripture for it. This sounds like people adding to God's words again.

      Time to reclaim our FREEDOM from the “Mullah in Chief” and his growing activist voter hoards of socialists, communists, anti-Semites, anti-Christians, atheists, radical gays and lesbians, feminists, illegal immigrants, Muslims, anti-Anglo whites and others.

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      • Re: Japs get their due!

        Originally posted by SpiritualAmerican View Post
        Ezekiel 18:20- "The person who sins will die. The son will not bear the punishment for the father’s iniquity, nor will the father bear the punishment for the son’s iniquity; the righteousness of the righteous will be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked will be upon himself."

        Deuteronomy 24:16- "Fathers shall not be put to death for their sons, nor shall sons be put to death for their fathers; everyone shall be put to death for his own sin." - "Fathers shall not be put to death for their sons, nor shall sons be put to death for their fathers; everyone shall be put to death for his own sin."

        It took me quite some time to find them. Children are born without sin, and are incapable of sin until they age. Unless you are trying to say that a 3 or 4 year old can commit an act against God.
        Are you anti ten commandments, friend?

        2I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
        3Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
        4Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
        5Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
        6And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
        7Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
        8Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
        9Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
        10But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
        11For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
        12Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
        13Thou shalt not kill.
        14Thou shalt not commit adultery.
        15Thou shalt not steal.
        16Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
        17Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.

        God hates bastards unto the tenth generation.

        Deuteronomy 23:2
        A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD.

        If you don't do what God says, He's going to mess you up badly.

        Deuteronomy 28

        15But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee:
        16Cursed shalt thou be in the city, and cursed shalt thou be in the field.
        17Cursed shall be thy basket and thy store.
        18Cursed shall be the fruit of thy body, and the fruit of thy land, the increase of thy kine, and the flocks of thy sheep.
        19Cursed shalt thou be when thou comest in, and cursed shalt thou be when thou goest out.
        20The LORD shall send upon thee cursing, vexation, and rebuke, in all that thou settest thine hand unto for to do, until thou be destroyed, and until thou perish quickly; because of the wickedness of thy doings, whereby thou hast forsaken me.
        21The LORD shall make the pestilence cleave unto thee, until he have consumed thee from off the land, whither thou goest to possess it.
        22The LORD shall smite thee with a consumption, and with a fever, and with an inflammation, and with an extreme burning, and with the sword, and with blasting, and with mildew; and they shall pursue thee until thou perish.
        23And thy heaven that is over thy head shall be brass, and the earth that is under thee shall be iron.
        24The LORD shall make the rain of thy land powder and dust: from heaven shall it come down upon thee, until thou be destroyed.
        25The LORD shall cause thee to be smitten before thine enemies: thou shalt go out one way against them, and flee seven ways before them: and shalt be removed into all the kingdoms of the earth.
        26And thy carcase shall be meat unto all fowls of the air, and unto the beasts of the earth, and no man shall fray them away.
        27The LORD will smite thee with the botch of Egypt, and with the emerods, and with the scab, and with the itch, whereof thou canst not be healed.
        28The LORD shall smite thee with madness, and blindness, and astonishment of heart:
        29And thou shalt grope at noonday, as the blind gropeth in darkness, and thou shalt not prosper in thy ways: and thou shalt be only oppressed and spoiled evermore, and no man shall save thee.
        30Thou shalt betroth a wife, and another man shall lie with her: thou shalt build an house, and thou shalt not dwell therein: thou shalt plant a vineyard, and shalt not gather the grapes thereof.
        31Thine ox shall be slain before thine eyes, and thou shalt not eat thereof: thine ass shall be violently taken away from before thy face, and shall not be restored to thee: thy sheep shall be given unto thine enemies, and thou shalt have none to rescue them.
        32Thy sons and thy daughters shall be given unto another people, and thine eyes shall look, and fail with longing for them all the day long; and there shall be no might in thine hand.
        33The fruit of thy land, and all thy labours, shall a nation which thou knowest not eat up; and thou shalt be only oppressed and crushed alway:
        34So that thou shalt be mad for the sight of thine eyes which thou shalt see.
        35The LORD shall smite thee in the knees, and in the legs, with a sore botch that cannot be healed, from the sole of thy foot unto the top of thy head.
        36The LORD shall bring thee, and thy king which thou shalt set over thee, unto a nation which neither thou nor thy fathers have known; and there shalt thou serve other gods, wood and stone.
        37And thou shalt become an astonishment, a proverb, and a byword, among all nations whither the LORD shall lead thee.
        38Thou shalt carry much seed out into the field, and shalt gather but little in; for the locust shall consume it.
        39Thou shalt plant vineyards, and dress them, but shalt neither drink of the wine, nor gather the grapes; for the worms shall eat them.
        40Thou shalt have olive trees throughout all thy coasts, but thou shalt not anoint thyself with the oil; for thine olive shall cast his fruit.
        41Thou shalt beget sons and daughters, but thou shalt not enjoy them; for they shall go into captivity.
        42All thy trees and fruit of thy land shall the locust consume.
        43The stranger that is within thee shall get up above thee very high; and thou shalt come down very low.
        44He shall lend to thee, and thou shalt not lend to him: he shall be the head, and thou shalt be the tail.
        45Moreover all these curses shall come upon thee, and shall pursue thee, and overtake thee, till thou be destroyed; because thou hearkenedst not unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which he commanded thee:
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        • Re: Japs get their due!

          You do me wrong for no reason O Fisherman, you guess my age but fall short. You call me a false christian when I made no claims to being christian or of any other religion. You change my location to 'with my fag boyfriend' when I again make no claims to being anything but heterosexual. I call myself spiritual, I call myself a reader and a collector of tomes. Whilst I respect your zeal to an extent, doing false wrongs is uncalled for O Fisherman. Unless of course these wrongs are set upon me by the hand of another?

          Morality is set in the eye of the beholder, just as faith is. You see and believe in ways that differ from another, just as they see and believe in ways that differ from yet another. I welcome your retorts and your comments against me as all opinion and belief must be reviewed. I feel no hatred or anger against you, only do I welcome you to sit with me so we may talk of these things as men would. Civility, I believe is a necessity
          Psalm 58:3 The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies

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          • Re: Japs get their due!

            Originally posted by SpiritualAmerican View Post
            You do me wrong for no reason O Fisherman, you guess my age but fall short. You call me a false christian when I made no claims to being christian or of any other religion. You change my location to 'with my fag boyfriend' when I again make no claims to being anything but heterosexual. I call myself spiritual, I call myself a reader and a collector of tomes. Whilst I respect your zeal to an extent, doing false wrongs is uncalled for O Fisherman. Unless of course these wrongs are set upon me by the hand of another?

            Morality is set in the eye of the beholder, just as faith is. You see and believe in ways that differ from another, just as they see and believe in ways that differ from yet another. I welcome your retorts and your comments against me as all opinion and belief must be reviewed. I feel no hatred or anger against you, only do I welcome you to sit with me so we may talk of these things as men would. Civility, I believe is a necessity
            What a pile of B.S. You offend baby Jesuses nose with that malarkey.
            Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
            Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
            Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
            Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
            Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
            Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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            • Re: Japs get their due!

              Originally posted by SpiritualAmerican View Post
              I call myself spiritual, I call myself a reader and a collector of tomes.
              You should only read the Bible. God advises against gathering knowledge:

              Ecclesiastes 1:16-18:
              I communed with mine own heart, saying, Lo, I am come to great estate, and have gotten more wisdom than all they that have been before me in Jerusalem: yea, my heart had great experience of wisdom and knowledge.
              And I gave my heart to know wisdom, and to know madness and folly: I perceived that this also is vexation of spirit.
              For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.

              Morality is set in the eye of the beholder, just as faith is.
              That is complete nonsense. God does not accept us to follow our own morality instead of the Law of the Bible:

              Deuteronomy 29:19-20:
              And it come to pass, when he heareth the words of this curse, that he bless himself in his heart, saying, I shall have peace, though I walk in the imagination of mine heart, to add drunkenness to thirst:
              The LORD will not spare him, but then the anger of the LORD and his jealousy shall smoke against that man, and all the curses that are written in this book shall lie upon him, and the LORD shall blot out his name from under heaven.

              Additionally, neither is faith in the eye of the beholder. Christianity is the only acceptable religion:

              2 John 1:9-11:
              Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
              If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
              For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.
              Sweet Lord Jesus,
              I want to pray for those who persecute me, my Lord.
              Please, treat their children as you treated those of Egypt, when they upset you! (Psalm 135:8-9)
              Dash their little children against the stones for their fathers iniquity! (Psalm 137:8-9)
              Hit them on the cheek, and smash out their teeth! (Psalm 3:7)
              Make their death and descent into Hell swift and terrible! (Psalm 55:15)
              Scatter their broken bodies over the streets of their evil cities, like Benghazi, Amsterdam, Tokyo and Mecca! (Psalm 110:6)
              Praised be Your Glorious Name™.

              Amen.

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              • Re: Japs get their due!

                Originally posted by James Hutchins View Post
                What a pile of B.S. You offend baby Jesuses nose with that malarkey.
                Oh? And what proves this? Where is it that I am at fault and yet you are correct? The only groups of people in the world I can think of that refuse to even hear the other side's argument with anything beyond scorn are the Democratic Party and the Westboro Baptist Church.

                Disciple, again I state that this is your belief, your faith. You may share it with many others and many others in this country would most certainly agree with you that Christianity is the only true religion. And I do not gather knowledge or horde it, these are just records and tales of fancy from ages long since passed.

                And morality is in the eye of the beholder, otherwise we would not have laws in our Nation. Or police to enforce them, we would be left to God's laws or anarchy. Human instinct drives the creation of laws, as things go further against it, more will you try to prevent it.
                Psalm 58:3 The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies

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                • Re: Japs get their due!

                  Originally posted by SpiritualAmerican View Post
                  Disciple, again I state that this is your belief, your faith. You may share it with many others and many others in this country would most certainly agree with you that Christianity is the only true religion. And I do not gather knowledge or horde it, these are just records and tales of fancy from ages long since passed.

                  And morality is in the eye of the beholder, otherwise we would not have laws in our Nation. Or police to enforce them, we would be left to God's laws or anarchy. Human instinct drives the creation of laws, as things go further against it, more will you try to prevent it.
                  This is not just my belief. It is the belief of everyone who believes in the Bible in its entirety. If you believe something different, then you are no Christian, because you ignore what Jesus said in Matthew 5:17-19. That's how it is.

                  And again, Deuteronomy 29:19-20 states that we shouldn't follow our own moral compass. You can keep denying that, but then you're just denying the Words of God in the Bible. Read more about this here.

                  The laws of the nation are partially inspired by God's Law. Those that aren't are evil, secular attempts to corrupt America. After all, God says we should kill witches (Exodus 22:18). The American law says we shouldn't. If you, then, claim that American law is moral on this one, then you automatically claim that God's Law is immoral. How can you, then, call yourself a Christian?
                  Sweet Lord Jesus,
                  I want to pray for those who persecute me, my Lord.
                  Please, treat their children as you treated those of Egypt, when they upset you! (Psalm 135:8-9)
                  Dash their little children against the stones for their fathers iniquity! (Psalm 137:8-9)
                  Hit them on the cheek, and smash out their teeth! (Psalm 3:7)
                  Make their death and descent into Hell swift and terrible! (Psalm 55:15)
                  Scatter their broken bodies over the streets of their evil cities, like Benghazi, Amsterdam, Tokyo and Mecca! (Psalm 110:6)
                  Praised be Your Glorious Name™.

                  Amen.

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                  • Re: Japs get their due!

                    Once again, where have I claimed to be a Christian? I haven't and I have said that twice on the minimum that I am not. And following a moral compass would be incorrect, as a compass can be thrown off. I'm referring to human instinct, such situations would revolve around murder or rape and etc, etc.

                    Such as you believe that a woman should make herself inferior and if she does wrong you should strike her justly, but no more than she deserves. In my instinctual response I would strike you thrice as hard for such action and many would support me, for an action such as striking a woman would stand directly against their instincts, their feelings.
                    Psalm 58:3 The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies

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                    • Re: Japs get their due!

                      Originally posted by SpiritualAmerican View Post
                      Once again, where have I claimed to be a Christian? I haven't and I have said that twice on the minimum that I am not.
                      What are you then? A moon-worshiping wiccan?

                      And following a moral compass would be incorrect, as a compass can be thrown off. I'm referring to human instinct, such situations would revolve around murder or rape and etc, etc.
                      Yeah, of course, human instinct can impossibly be wrong when making moral decisions. How silly of me not to realize that!

                      Such as you believe that a woman should make herself inferior and if she does wrong you should strike her justly, but no more than she deserves. In my instinctual response I would strike you thrice as hard for such action and many would support me, for an action such as striking a woman would stand directly against their instincts, their feelings.
                      Strike back "thrice?" Sounds like the law of threefold return to me. Again, I call wiccan.

                      Anyway, what you are saying is opposed to what God says in the Bible, and I will follow God's Word over the ramblings of a teenage witch anytime.
                      Sweet Lord Jesus,
                      I want to pray for those who persecute me, my Lord.
                      Please, treat their children as you treated those of Egypt, when they upset you! (Psalm 135:8-9)
                      Dash their little children against the stones for their fathers iniquity! (Psalm 137:8-9)
                      Hit them on the cheek, and smash out their teeth! (Psalm 3:7)
                      Make their death and descent into Hell swift and terrible! (Psalm 55:15)
                      Scatter their broken bodies over the streets of their evil cities, like Benghazi, Amsterdam, Tokyo and Mecca! (Psalm 110:6)
                      Praised be Your Glorious Name™.

                      Amen.

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                      • Re: Japs get their due!

                        Human instinct can definitely be wrong, but the problem is since you cannot remove it, many people abide by it. Instinct is inescapable and absolute, going against it is going against yourself and whoever created you, which depends on how you believe.

                        And three wrongs, 1. I am not a teenager. 2. I am not a wiccan. 3. Thrice is the proper English for three times. Example: You hit a woman, I hit you thrice (three times) as hard. Proper English has since degraded but there are still many who understand it.

                        And as a note, The Rule of Three is popularly believed by many Wiccans to be based upon Karma and even Christian Morality, i.e the Golden Rule or Matthew 7:12 if you prefer.
                        Psalm 58:3 The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies

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                        • Re: Japs get their due!

                          Originally posted by SpiritualAmerican View Post
                          Human instinct can definitely be wrong, but the problem is since you cannot remove it, many people abide by it. Instinct is inescapable and absolute, going against it is going against yourself and whoever created you, which depends on how you believe.
                          You are wrong. Instinct is not inescapable and absolute. The Bible often goes against our instincts, for example, so we don't have to abide by our instincts.

                          And three wrongs, 1. I am not a teenager. 2. I am not a wiccan. 3. Thrice is the proper English for three times. Example: You hit a woman, I hit you thrice (three times) as hard. Proper English has since degraded but there are still many who understand it.
                          I know that "thrice" means three times, silly woman. What makes you think I didn't?

                          Anyway, what are you? a boodhist?

                          And as a note, The Rule of Three is popularly believed by many Wiccans to be based upon Karma and even Christian Morality, i.e the Golden Rule or Matthew 7:12 if you prefer.
                          You are confusing the "golden rule" with the "law of threefold return." But never mind, that wasn't my point.
                          Sweet Lord Jesus,
                          I want to pray for those who persecute me, my Lord.
                          Please, treat their children as you treated those of Egypt, when they upset you! (Psalm 135:8-9)
                          Dash their little children against the stones for their fathers iniquity! (Psalm 137:8-9)
                          Hit them on the cheek, and smash out their teeth! (Psalm 3:7)
                          Make their death and descent into Hell swift and terrible! (Psalm 55:15)
                          Scatter their broken bodies over the streets of their evil cities, like Benghazi, Amsterdam, Tokyo and Mecca! (Psalm 110:6)
                          Praised be Your Glorious Name™.

                          Amen.

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                          • Re: Japs get their due!

                            I do believe I said based, based upon the Golden Rule as the popular belief goes. And I am not a woman. I am not a Buddhist either, where you came to that conclusion is interesting but irrelevant. So guessing around in the dark is not exactly your strong suit.

                            And instinct cannot be ignored. Just because you can make someone with acrophobia climb a tree, or make someone with claustrophobia sit in a locked closet doesn't make those go away. Instincts are the base of all human emotion and action, its why you breath air without thinking. Or eat food when you hunger or drink when you thirst.
                            Psalm 58:3 The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies

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                            • Re: Japs get their due!

                              Originally posted by SpiritualAmerican View Post
                              have I claimed to be a Christian?
                              I Certainly Hope not. Your long, windy anti-JESUS rants are beginning to rot my socks.

                              I mean, Pantyhose

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                              • Re: Japs get their due!

                                Originally posted by SUV View Post
                                I Certainly Hope not. Your long, windy anti-JESUS rants are beginning to rot my socks.

                                I mean, Pantyhose
                                I haven't claimed to be anti Jesus either milady.
                                Psalm 58:3 The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies

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