[Poetic Peter]

Re: How many goths have you bagged today?

The Nazis probably felt their decision was the only way to end the persecution they were suffering from the Jews.

Does that make it right?

No, but it does show you where secular morality leads you.

A perfect distillation of truth.
Thank you for this.

[not_satan]

Re: How many goths have you bagged today?

wow.......am i ever glad i don't live in a lawless, morally empty shithole such as Iowa...no wonder you guys keep on pumping out angry metal bands such as slipknot.....they have a hell of a lot to be pissed off about

[Poetic Peter]

Re: How many goths have you bagged today?

wow.......am i ever glad i don't live in a lawless, morally empty -----
such as Iowa...
no wonder you guys keep on pumping out angry metal bands such as slipknot.....
they have a hell of a lot to be pissed off about

A flatter place than Iowa is

your battered mental plane:

flatter than IHOP pancakes

burnt to black on hellish iron.


Someday I'll float, finished,

souffle,

while you will sink and have to wait

inedible on satan's plate.

[Pastor Al E Pistle]

Re: How many goths have you bagged today?

I really appreciate this most excellent patter, the like of which wouldst make the Bard bow in shame.

Ah, Blossom!
if only I had such talent, but
I'm no homer.

[not_satan]

Re: How many goths have you bagged today?

I'm pretty sure that Iowa is fatter than Ihop pancakes .......

or is it texas thats the fattest state in Jesusland eh?

[Enobarbus]

Re: How many goths have you bagged today?

The Nazis probably felt their decision was the only way to end the persecution they were suffering from the Jews. Does that make it right? No, but it does show you where secular morality leads you.

It wasn't just the Jews that they were being perscuted by, Brother -- it was all of Europe and Britain too. The reparations and other action taken against Germany after WWI that resulted in the German people suffering mightily was the prime reason for Hitler and his friends rising to power.

If Hitler had won, Hellion would now be arguing in German how justified Hitler was in attacking the rest of the world, and hailing him as a great saviour whose killing was justified because Germans were starving as a result of Western economic actions.

As you say, the relativity of secular morality is an indication of why we need to follow the Bible and the Bilble alone. With secular morality you can justify anything. With Godly morality from the KJV1611, along with prayer and guidence from our Pastors, we know that what we are doing is right.

[hellion]

Re: How many goths have you bagged today?

It wasn't just the Jews that they were being perscuted by, Brother -- it was all of Europe and Britain too.
The Jews never persecuted Hitler, he was just a sadistic madman, made this way by his father beating him (I wonder where that came from...maybe the bible: where it tells you to beat your child and turn them into sadistic madmen like Hitler!) Hitler also persecuted gays, gypsies, and common criminals, when they never really did anything to him. The bible told him to persectute them. Look how that turned out....

The reparations and other action taken against Germany after WWI that resulted in the German people suffering mightily was the prime reason for Hitler and his friends rising to power.

If Hitler had won, Hellion would now be arguing in German how justified Hitler was in attacking the rest of the world, and hailing him as a great saviour whose killing was justified because Germans were starving as a result of Western economic actions.
I don't agree with Hitler in any of his actions. Although he was a great leader and a genious, he was a sadistic conformist.

As you say, the relativity of secular morality is an indication of why we need to follow the Bible and the Bilble alone. With secular morality you can justify anything. With Godly morality from the KJV1611, along with prayer and guidence from our Pastors, we know that what we are doing is right.

The bible is what creates sadism, persecution, bigotry, hatred, discrimination. It caused innocent people to be burned as witches or killed just because they were different. You have all this hate built up inside of you for anything that you can't control with this fear of god. Learn to accept and you'll be so much happier. Your hate is causing pain and misery.

[Brother Temperance]

Re: How many goths have you bagged today?

The Jews never persecuted Hitler, he was just a sadistic madman, made this way by his father beating him (I wonder where that came from...maybe the bible: where it tells you to beat your child and turn them into sadistic madmen like Hitler!)
I want chapter and verse for that statement. And do you or do you not agree that Germany suffered at the hands of Britain and France in the inter-war period? Hitler also persecuted gays, gypsies, and common criminals, when they never really did anything to him. The bible told him to persectute them. Look how that turned out....
First of all, fascism was a paganistic and anti-Christian movement, based on the ideas of the ATHIEST Nietzsche, so that's you clamped. Second, Hitler would claim he was right to persecute the jews; you would say he's wrong. They're both just opinions. Neither of you can say for sure you're right without reference to some kind of a higher source. That's where God comes in.
I don't agree with Hitler in any of his actions. Although he was a great leader and a genious, he was a sadistic conformist.
I'm sure he was even more of a "genious" than you are. Enobarbus wasn't saying that you agree with Hitler, just that you would have if he'd won. He is a very perceptive man.
The bible is what creates sadism, persecution, bigotry, hatred, discrimination. It caused innocent people to be burned as witches or killed just because they were different.
What, so in athiest countries like Communist Russia there was no persecution or hatred? You're showing your true face, my commie hatemongering friend.

[hellion]

Re: How many goths have you bagged today?

The Jews never persecuted Hitler, he was just a sadistic madman, made this way by his father beating him (I wonder where that came from...maybe the bible: where it tells you to beat your child and turn them into sadistic madmen like Hitler!)
I want chapter and verse for that statement. And do you or do you not agree that Germany suffered at the hands of Britain and France in the inter-war period? Hitler also persecuted gays, gypsies, and common criminals, when they never really did anything to him. The bible told him to persectute them. Look how that turned out....
First of all, fascism was a paganistic and anti-Christian movement, based on the ideas of the ATHIEST Nietzsche, so that's you clamped. Second, Hitler would claim he was right to persecute the jews; you would say he's wrong. They're both just opinions. Neither of you can say for sure you're right without reference to some kind of a higher source. That's where God comes in.
I don't agree with Hitler in any of his actions. Although he was a great leader and a genious, he was a sadistic conformist.
I'm sure he was even more of a "genious" than you are. Enobarbus wasn't saying that you agree with Hitler, just that you would have if he'd won. He is a very perceptive man.
The bible is what creates sadism, persecution, bigotry, hatred, discrimination. It caused innocent people to be burned as witches or killed just because they were different.
What, so in athiest countries like Communist Russia there was no persecution or hatred? You're showing your true face, my commie hatemongering friend.

Maybe there is persecution in Russia, but there's a lot less of it. Like the religious wars over seas that have killed millions upon millions of people...over what? 'My god is better than yous.'?? And from what I've heard, it's the same god, just slightly different beliefs. Religion is what causes a lot of persecution. Religion wouldn't be such a bad thing if it taught some forms of tolerance.

And what makes you think I'd follow Hitler if he won? And I know he's smarter than I am. But I'm not crazy and I don't go around killing people in mass numbers, and that makes all the difference.

[Enobarbus]

Re: How many goths have you bagged today?

Maybe there is persecution in Russia, but there's a lot less of it. Like the religious wars over seas that have killed millions upon millions of people...over what? 'My god is better than yous.'?? And from what I've heard, it's the same god, just slightly different beliefs. Religion is what causes a lot of persecution. Religion wouldn't be such a bad thing if it taught some forms of tolerance.

And what makes you think I'd follow Hitler if he won? And I know he's smarter than I am. But I'm not crazy and I don't go around killing people in mass numbers, and that makes all the difference.

Can't you understand that if Hitler had won, the histoy books would be quite different from what they are now? You would have grown up believing -- having been taught it from the time you could first learn -- that Hitler was a great man and Churchill and Co. the madmen.

And what if we do kill and innocent person by mistake? Or kill a Christian?

What does it matter when our lives on this earth are not even a drop in ocean compared with the endlessness of eternity? If we kill a Christian "God will know his own" and they will go to heaven anyway.

Jam 4:14 ... For what [is] your life? It is even a vapour, that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away.

Our lives on this earth are simply of next to no importance. This is something difficult for unsaved trash like yourself to understand, I know, but think about it -- what is the tiny, insignificant time we spend here compared to eternity?

Of no importance at all.

[hellion]

Re: How many goths have you bagged today?

Can't you understand that if Hitler had won, the histoy books would be quite different from what they are now? You would have grown up believing -- having been taught it from the time you could first learn -- that Hitler was a great man and Churchill and Co. the madmen.
You have a point, I admit. But everyone says christianity is great and true and I don't believe that. Someone would stand up to Hitler and his followers, even if it did mean death.
And what if we do kill and innocent person by mistake? Or kill a Christian?

What does it matter when our lives on this earth are not even a drop in ocean compared with the endlessness of eternity? If we kill a Christian "God will know his own" and they will go to heaven anyway.
Not to mention their families you sent into depression and mourning. And who started to question god because of what you did.
Jam 4:14 ... For what [is] your life? It is even a vapour, that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away.

Our lives on this earth are simply of next to no importance. This is something difficult for unsaved trash like yourself to understand, I know, but think about it -- what is the tiny, insignificant time we spend here compared to eternity?
But what happens to us here effects what happens to us in etternity. You're beating children and women, killing and discriminating against Individualists, and religious wars, drives people away from god. They start to question him/her, asking why so much pain in this world. Pain that you created.
Of no importance at all.

Life is VERY important.

[Pastor Al E Pistle]

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Life is VERY important.

Yes, but only because of your immortal soul. Jesus weeps that you hate Him and His Church. If you don't care about yourself, send me your parent's credit cards so at least THEY can be saved(R).

[Brother Temperance]

Re: How many goths have you bagged today?

Maybe there is persecution in Russia, but there's a lot less of it.

My friend, are you familiar with the word Gulag? What about the Heathen Chinee? Jesus is unknown over there, but that didn't make Mao's regime any more pleasant.

[Ixi]

Re: How many goths have you bagged today?

Of course we had ancestors. But if it was only two people...we would all be mutants, its like a sister having kids with her brother. So there had to be many people. Now where did they come from? They didn't just pop out of the ground, now, did they?

[Pastor Al E Pistle]

Re: How many goths have you bagged today?

Of course we had ancestors. But if it was only two people...we would all be mutants, its like a sister having kids with her brother. So there had to be many people. Now where did they come from? They didn't just pop out of the ground, now, did they?

You make a good case for mutants but the Bible said that Adam and Eve were the FIRST humans, not the ONLY ones. God made more.