[Basilissa]

Re: What is it like to be an atheist?

But then you'd have knowledge. God doesn't want your knowledge, He wants your faith (which is belief WITHOUT proof).

Of course, if you'd read the Bible, you'd know that already.

Exactly
John 20:29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou has seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

[LuceyRiverat]

Re: What is it like to be an atheist?

Two words: why bother?

Mate, you let your team down with that.

Hypocritical much?

Why bother reading the piffleing Bible then? Same question really, except I do plan to read the Bible and despite what you appear to think have read large excerpts.

You on the other hand openly dismiss any views other than your own without even looking into them? I genuinely recommend you should read those books. Then maybe you would be able to give a less *ignorant* description of why you believe in God.

Aaaaand you guys are why I hope God doesn't exist. Just because it would be nice to think you've all wasted your lives preaching from a book.

[LuceyRiverat]

Re: What is it like to be an atheist?

But then you'd have knowledge. God doesn't want your knowledge, He wants your faith (which is belief WITHOUT proof).

WHY? Just, WHY?

FFs, don't say anything like 'we can't question God.' Why? If God didn't want to be questioned he should have made himself scientifically provable. Or just made all humans really stupid so they followed him on blind faith. *Hint*

[James Hutchins]

Re: What is it like to be an atheist?

WHY? Just, WHY?

FFs, don't say anything like 'we can't question God.' Why? If God didn't want to be questioned he should have made himself scientifically provable. Or just made all humans really stupid so they followed him on blind faith. *Hint*

Thanks for inferring we are stupid for actually reading something and then professing knowledge about it.

Do go on and tell us more of your made up information, based totally on your drug addled experiences.

[Basilissa]

Re: What is it like to be an atheist?

Mate, you let your team down with that.

Hypocritical much?

Why bother reading the piffleing Bible then?

Because it is the Word of God, and it's perfect (see e.g. Psalm 19:7). And these books you mention aren't. If I have a choice to eat a tiramisu or a piece of stale bread, why should I eat the latter?

Same question really, except I do plan to read the Bible and despite what you appear to think have read large excerpts.

Sorry, but your posts don't reflect that.

You on the other hand openly dismiss any views other than your own without even looking into them?

If they are against the Bible, then they are wrong and reading them would be a waste of time; if they are in favor of the Bible, then they are just repeating what Bible says.

Aaaaand you guys are why I hope God doesn't exist. Just because it would be nice to think you've all wasted your lives preaching from a book.

That makes you a very nice person, doesn't it? At least we don't wish that you eternally burn in hell.

[Rev. Edward Clement]

Re: What is it like to be an atheist?

WHY? Or just made all humans really stupid so they followed him on blind faith. *Hint*

No friend, we have absolute evidence of the Lord in His Word which is Himself because the Bible says so.

Our Faith is Now and NOW IS.

Hebrews
11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

Therefore, since our Faith is Now, our Now is Faith and thus IS, thus our Faith is the Tangible Proof that provides irrefutable evidence that our Faith is Now, and Now our Faith IS.

We know Him in Whom we Believe and know in the Now IS of our Faith which IS.

2 Timothy
1:12 For the which cause I also suffer these things: nevertheless I am not ashamed: for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day.

Thus, it is you who are prone to falling headlong into ditches.

[LuceyRiverat]

Re: What is it like to be an atheist?

So what? I'm not allowed to judge something I haven't read ALL of but you're allowed to say something is 'wrong' when you don't seem to have even read the back cover? I'm slightly confused over that?

I don't wish an atheist reality to every Christian I meet. I accept Christians in general as I accept all religions. But I wish it on those who don't even feel the need to listen to other people's ideas because obviously they're ALWAYS right. That's the most conceited idea ever, don't you think?

You want to know why you shouldn't wish Hell on me? Because I'm interested in why you think the way you do. I actually care enough to question my beliefs on a regular basis. I don't know you, you may all be lovely humans. But based on the fact that you want to ask someone their opinion SOLELY so you can shoot them down about it, I would say you're actually all quite sadistic. And mostly, I think you're scared to stand up for what you really believe in and instead want to hide behind Pascal's wager.



What is it like to be an atheist?

Well it's much better than being a Christian. You don't waste your life praying to a God who may or may not exist.

Notice how I said 'may or may not.' Eg. I don't think I'm always right.

[Rev. Edward Clement]

Re: What is it like to be an atheist?

I'm slightly confused over that?

There is a reason that you are so confused, friend.

1 Corinthians
2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

[Basilissa]

Re: What is it like to be an atheist?

So what? I'm not allowed to judge something I haven't read ALL of but you're allowed to say something is 'wrong' when you don't seem to have even read the back cover? I'm slightly confused over that?

Let's repeat it once again: The Bible is the Word of God. The books that you talk about were written by people. The Word of God is perfect. Everything that people write is imperfect. Period.

I accept Christians in general as I accept all religions. But I wish it on those who don't even feel the need to listen to other people's ideas because obviously they're ALWAYS right. That's the most conceited idea ever, don't you think?

That's exactly why there are so many false religions. They all think that they are right and that everybody else is wrong. And anticipating your question, Christians are right because we follow the real Word of God.

I actually care enough to question my beliefs on a regular basis.

That's the best sign that in your heart you know that you are on the wrong path! There still is time to repent!

[being atheist] Well it's much better than being a Christian. You don't waste your life praying to a God who may or may not exist.

You'll waste your eternity in hell. And you're wrong, we are not doubting the Word of God.

Eg. I don't think I'm always right.

Good for you

[LuceyRiverat]

Re: What is it like to be an atheist?

Let's repeat it once again: The Bible is the Word of God. The books that you talk about were written by people. The Word of God is perfect. Everything that people write is imperfect. Period

But how do you know it's the word of God? Can you prove it? Pretty sure it was written by humans

[Didymus Much]

Re: What is it like to be an atheist?

So what? I'm not allowed to judge something I haven't read ALL of but you're allowed to say something is 'wrong' when you don't seem to have even read the back cover?...

Yes, on both counts. This is THEIR forum. You don't make the rules here.

...I accept Christians in general as I accept all religions...

So you accept people who think that God wants them to kill witches, disobedient children, those who follow any other religion (or none), and non-virgin brides who have been paid for? Really?

...That's the most conceited idea ever, don't you think?...

What's your point?

...You want to know why you shouldn't wish Hell on me?...

1) Nobody has wished Hell on you. They wish you'd accept Christ's sacrifice on your behalf and be Saved. We all wish you'd just read the freaking Bible already so you'd have half a clue (maybe more, benefit of the doubt there) of what you're talking about.

2) How about, you don't believe in Hell and they're just wasting their breath?

...But based on the fact that you want to ask someone their opinion SOLELY so you can shoot them down about it, I would say you're actually all quite sadistic...

Who said they were asking you? They asked a question on THEIR OWN FORUM, and all of a sudden these ignorant atheists show up yapping about stuff they really don't care about, like you. Presumptuous, much?

...And mostly, I think you're scared to stand up for what you really believe in and instead want to hide behind Pascal's wager...

Pascal was a wimp.

...I don't think I'm always right.

So what have the last five pages in this thread been about?

[James Hutchins]

Re: What is it like to be an atheist?

Let's repeat it once again: The Bible is the Word of God. The books that you talk about were written by people. The Word of God is perfect. Everything that people write is imperfect. Period

But how do you know it's the word of God? Can you prove it? Pretty sure it was written by humans

With every word, you look more foolish.

Of course the Bible was written by man. It was overseen and edited by God. Why else do you think the stories in it never change?

Does it make your head hurt when you say those absurd things? How do you rationally think you can discuss a subject you know (admittedly) nothing about? I at least went to College to confirm my conviction the God is the only Answer to Everything.

[MitzaLizalor]

fundamental concepts in The Bible

my first post

No still can't find your introductory post

HELPFUL HINT TRY CLICKING THAT

Still, I can tell you what most of it means. I've looked at quotes and read verses enough to understand the fundamental concepts.

Why not tell us about those fundamental concepts in your introductory post?

I actually care enough to question my beliefs on a regular basis.

....but you don't have any beliefs

Atheism. No wonder they all go mad.

[BelieverInGod]

Re: What is it like to be an atheist?

-It's not just the Bible though, this is the issue I have. You could argue teleologically or cosmologically which I understand much more than basing it on a book. You could delve into the many different points through rationalism which was my first post, actually.

Although Christianity may be based on the Bible, what about a belief in a deity more generally? Why do you believe that there has to be something and the Bible isn't just a book? You could feel that, I don't know, Harry Potter is real but basing your 'evidence' on the series wouldn't convince me.

Harry Potter is easy. Go down to Kings Cross in London and look for platform 9-3/4. Since it doesn't exist, and since Rowling freely admits that she made it up, Harry Potter isn't real.

Why do you atheists believe in everything except GOD?

And how could God or Jesus prove himself? Well he could appear to me. And before someone says he has better things to do, he can do them at the same time. By virtue of being omnipotent and omnipresent.

God has appeared to you. Get out of your basement and walk around in the fresh air some time. You'll see God in the budding trees, and in the tulips and the rest of the spring flowers.

Read the book of Job, especially the last 5 chapters. They will tell you where to find GOD. I'll give you some highlights.

37
6 For he saith to the snow, Be thou on the earth; likewise to the small rain, and to the great rain of his strength.

9 Out of the south cometh the whirlwind: and cold out of the north.

23 Touching the Almighty, we cannot find him out: he is excellent in power, and in judgment, and in plenty of justice: he will not afflict.

24 Men do therefore fear him: he respecteth not any that are wise of heart.


38

4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.

12 Hast thou commanded the morning since thy days; and caused the dayspring to know his place;

17 Have the gates of death been opened unto thee? or hast thou seen the doors of the shadow of death?

19 Where is the way where light dwelleth? and as for darkness, where is the place thereof,

28 Hath the rain a father? or who hath begotten the drops of dew?

31 Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion?

34 Canst thou lift up thy voice to the clouds, that abundance of waters may cover thee?

41 Who provideth for the raven his food? when his young ones cry unto God, they wander for lack of meat.

39

Knowest thou the time when the wild goats of the rock bring forth? or canst thou mark when the hinds do calve?

9 Will the unicorn be willing to serve thee, or abide by thy crib?

13 Gavest thou the goodly wings unto the peacocks? or wings and feathers unto the ostrich?

19 Hast thou given the horse strength? hast thou clothed his neck with thunder?

40

2 Shall he that contendeth with the Almighty instruct him? he that reproveth God, let him answer it.

8 Wilt thou also disannul my judgment? wilt thou condemn me, that thou mayest be righteous?


42

3 Who is he that hideth counsel without knowledge? therefore have I uttered that I understood not; things too wonderful for me, which I knew not.

10 And the Lord turned the captivity of Job, when he prayed for his friends: also the Lord gave Job twice as much as he had before.

16 After this lived Job an hundred and forty years, and saw his sons, and his sons' sons, even four generations.

Basically it boils down to "who are you to judge God, when you are incapable of understanding his ways".

[Satin666]

Re: What is it like to be an atheist?

It's pretty amazing if you ask me.