[James Hutchins]

Re: What is it like to be an atheist?

I got my masters degree in chemistry at the University of Texas how about you ***** <<< Profanity Removed - Admin>>>.

Too bad you did not get into a good school like Liberty U.

Everyone knows the only things in Texas are Steers and Queers. You are not a steak.

The only people with a higher quotient of homofaquals (not a math multiplication term) is people from the rockies. They have the audacity to all wear Birkenstock's!

[IreneS]

Re: What is it like to be an atheist?

Clearly they also allow illiterates into University of Texas.
Me? University of Melbourne. And I can spell, punctuate, capitalise and use grammar correctly.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: What is it like to be an atheist?

Clearly they also allow illiterates into University of Texas.
Me? University of Melbourne. And I can spell, punctuate, capitalise and use grammar correctly.

What did you major in? Secretarial skills? Home Economics?

[IreneS]

Re: What is it like to be an atheist?

What did you major in? Secretarial skills? Home Economics?

My father sent me there in the hope I'd meet a rich young True Christian (tm) lawyer.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: What is it like to be an atheist?

Hello dear christian fellows,
i was wondering why you say that you are open to all ideas, then
every big member is saying that ideas that are not tought by god are things that should not exist and banned (or worse words)

Thanks.

-miyoyo

Dear Frenchie;

Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire.

YIC,

--Pastor Ezekiel

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: What is it like to be an atheist?

Yeah but why a lot of you are attacking thinks like atheists and mentaly degenerated, and then say they are open minded?

So, let me get this straight. For you, being open minded means.... thinking just like you.

[Pastor Ed Lowman]

Re: What is it like to be an atheist?

I got my masters degree in chemistry at the University of Texas how about you

Chemistry can't save you. College can't save you. Professors can't save you. Darwin and Thomas Henry Huxley can't save you. You'll call out to them in your final hour, but the only thing you will hear back are screams of torment from others like you who've lived and died making the wrong decisions with the wrong beliefs.

Damnation for disbelief is serious business (see Mark 16:16; Hebrews 11:6). I hope you will adjust your course before it is eternally too late.

Prayerfully,

Pastor Ed

[FearHell]

Re: What is it like to be an atheist?

As I came across a helpful article showing me how to persuade an atheist to become a Christian, I read the preparation step called, "Imagine how they feel about their beliefs." Well, that got me to thinking, what DO atheists believe? What is it like to be in the head of an atheist? Is there any logical thought at all or is it pure animal instinct? Does one consider things like pleasure and pain or is an atheist simply driven to eat, sleep, and have sex with the closest hole that fits a peg (or peg that fits a hole, as it were)? I'm sincerely curious and wonder how can we help you overcome these base animal instincts to be saved from an eternity of torment that is due simply for the crime of having been born human and therefor depraved.

I look forward to your replies.

Dear friends,

I wasn't going to post here, or even register, until I saw your invitation to speak. So I'll take this invitation at face value, assuming that you are genuinely interested in our beliefs. If you're going to tell me that I'm going to hell for believing what I do, I will tell you: I fear not your hell, for if it exists, I shall be in great company. But then again, I believe there is no hell. Or Heaven.

I will clarify this point right at the beginning: I am an atheist.

I presume that you already know what atheists don't believe in. That is, we do not believe in any god, nor in unconditionally accepting the teachings of any church, as we believe that all religions have been invented by men, whether through genuinely delusional beliefs, or deliberate efforts to subjugate others to their beliefs. Most of us do not believe that we have a soul external to our body, and thus we reject the notions of heaven and hell as nonsensical.

In short, what DO atheists believe in? This is an answer that each atheist will give somewhat differently: just because we do not believe in a god, that doesn't mean we don't believe in anything at all, but rather that we choose what is important for ourselves instead of being told. Most atheists, however, will agree with these few points.

- We believe that this life is our only one, and that we should do our best to help our fellow humans.

- We believe in the golden rule - do unto others as you would have them do unto you. I believe that all humans should always remain free to think and speak what is on their mind without fear of repercussion.

- Generally speaking, most of us are deeply moral people. I simply believe that we should be the ones to forge our morality based on thoughtful reflection, through consideration of others and the aforementioned golden rule.

- Contrary to what you may think, we are very logical creatures. In fact, it is our passion for logic and reason that has made us first investigate critically, and then reject whatever faith we came from. (Or, for the few who were fortunate enough to be raised outside of a faith, to not accept one)

- We do consider things like pleasure and pain as much as anyone else. In fact, you'll find that most atheists will generally go out of their way to avoid other human beings having to suffer pain.

-We do eat, drink, sleep, just like the rest of you. Yes, we also have sex. Some of us more than others. Some atheists are chaste, some are monogamous out of choice, some are more promiscuous. There isn't a rule of how atheists behave in these matters, just like there isn't one for Americans, or Germans, or Chinese.

We don't see a problem with that as long as any activity is consensual, and all parties involved are past the age of consent. Some of us are homosexual (as some Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, and members of every other religion are), and no, I don't see a problem with that, and neither do most atheists.

We do, however, have a problem when people are being tortured, or executed because they are homosexual: to put it plainly, we think of other people as equal to us, and believe that they should not face hardship simple because of being who they are.

-We tend to like evidence over faith. To us, faith is not a virtue, but rather an unforgivable "sin" (if you'll allow me the word in brackets), as faith teaches to believe something without questioning it. We treasure the very opposite of that: which is, being able to believe in things only when they have been objectively evaluated. We put our minds to the task of separating fact from fiction, rather than mindless belief in a holy book.

-We think that the existence of a god (or lack thereof) is a question that has an answer. As all the available evidence points in the direction of there not being one, this is what we believe, until proven otherwise.

-Contrary to what you might think, we do not hate god -- just like you don't hate dragons, unicorns, and elves. We simply know that none of them exist, until proven otherwise. Conversely, we do not worship devils: we do not believe in them, either!

-We do not hate Christians, either. We simply think you are deluded into believing something that is so obviously (to us) untrue. Other than that, we think that people should be judged based on their actions rather than on their thoughts and beliefs.

-We believe that the Bible is a book, whose contents have been entirely selected by humans, and whose books were entirely written by other humans, with nothing divine involved anywhere in the process. As such, we feel that it ought to be criticized as much as any other book out there.

-If you want to convert us, well... Most of us know exactly what it would take for us to change our mind. We are open-minded that way. A good read on the subject is http://www.patheos.com/blogs/crossex...nge-your-mind/ which begs the question: what would it take for YOU to change your mind?

I understand that I am going to be flamed on this forum for writing what I just did, though I do hope that it satisfies the curiosity of the original poster who asked what's on an atheist's mind.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: What is it like to be an atheist?

We simply think you are deluded

Of course. Insane people never see themselves as insane, they just see others as being loopy!



I'm sorry, I would respond more, but your post was just so silly, such simple thinking. It made me feel bad to take it apart point by point and show you what you're missing. But thank you for your reply. I hope you feel better soon.

[Jedediah]

Re: What is it like to be an atheist?

I wasn't going to post here, or even register, until I saw your invitation to speak. So I'll take this invitation at face value, assuming that you are genuinely interested in our beliefs.

You are not welcome here, and nobody cares about your foolish opinions. This is a place for praise and Christian fellowship. Unsaved, Unwelcome.

If you're going to tell me that I'm going to hell for believing what I do, I will tell you: I fear not your hell, for if it exists, I shall be in great company. But then again, I believe there is no hell. Or Heaven.

I'm sure you look forward to frolicking about with your fellow liars, fornicators, practitioners or witchcraft, homosexurals, non-believers, cheaters, thieves, liberals, and murderers. You might want to check Jude 1:6-8, though, which states that you will be kept in chains in darkness. So as much as you might look forward to queering off with all the other sinners in hell, I'm afraid you'll be disappointed. Better play it safe and accept Christ, so you can join us in Heaven instead.

I will clarify this point right at the beginning: I am an atheist.

You're a fool with no redeeming qualities. Roger that.

Psalm 14:1
The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

I presume that you already know what atheists don't believe in. That is, we do not believe in any god, nor in unconditionally accepting the teachings of any church, as we believe that all religions have been invented by men, whether through genuinely delusional beliefs, or deliberate efforts to subjugate others to their beliefs. Most of us do not believe that we have a soul external to our body, and thus we reject the notions of heaven and hell as nonsensical.

"Blah, blah, blah. I hate God so much that I pretend He doesn't exist. Blah, blah, blah."

Listen to yourself, son. Do you have to see air to believe in it? Yet, it's the very thing that enables you to fill your lungs so you can spew your ignorant faithlessness to anyone within earshot. It takes more faith to be an atheist than it does to simply accept that God has already told us everything we need to know. It's called the King James Bible. Your problem is that you're trying to over-think things. God gave you a brain so that you could praise Him and glorify His name. You're abusing the privilege. Stop that.

Proverbs 3:5-6
Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.

In short, what DO atheists believe in? This is an answer that each atheist will give somewhat differently: just because we do not believe in a god, that doesn't mean we don't believe in anything at all, but rather that we choose what is important for ourselves instead of being told.

I'm sure your father Satan has filled your head with all sorts of vainglorious notions (John 8:43-44). I'm sure you believe it is perfectly acceptable to spend all Sunday morning masturbating to internet pornography instead of putting on your Sunday best, sitting in the pew, singing hymns, and tithing 10% of your paycheck. I'm sure you believe that narcotics should be legal. You probably believe that queers should get married and join the military. You probably believe in mandatory abortion. I don't doubt for a second the depths to which your depravity likely sinks. You are lost without Christ, son. Lost.

- We believe that this life is our only one, and that we should do our best to help our fellow humans.

Finally we agree on something. This is the only chance we get to prove to God that we are worthy of joining Him in Heaven.

Hebrews 9:27-28
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

And how better to help our fellow man than to share the salvific message of Christ with them? There may be hope for you yet.

- We believe in the golden rule - do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

You can thank Jesus for that.

Matthew 7:12
Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.

Luke 6:31
And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.

I believe that all humans should always remain free to think and speak what is on their mind without fear of repercussion.

I'm glad you enjoyed Mein Kampf. It's no surprise an atheist would idolize Hitler. Only you would rather persecute Christians than Jews. In fact, I suspect atheists and Jews will band together to persecute us as we draw closer to the End Times. Well, I've got pallets of canned meat, a survival seed bank, and enough ammo to equip a well-regulated militia in my bunker. So go ahead and try something, punk. Just try to take away my freedom to worship Jesus. I dare you.

- Generally speaking, most of us are deeply moral people. I simply believe that we should be the ones to forge our morality based on thoughtful reflection, through consideration of others and the aforementioned golden rule.

Atheists by definition lack a moral compass. You don't think you're answerable to any Heavenly authority, so you just make up your own twisted version of "morality" that has nothing to do with God's Word as given in the Holy Bible.

Proverbs 12:15
The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

Hitler was right in his own eyes, and look at what happened. Pol Pot was right in his own eyes, and look at what happened. Stalin was right in his own eyes, and look at what happened. Obama is right in his own eyes, and look at what is happening. Do I really need to go on here?

- Contrary to what you may think, we are very logical creatures. In fact, it is our passion for logic and reason that has made us first investigate critically, and then reject whatever faith we came from. (Or, for the few who were fortunate enough to be raised outside of a faith, to not accept one)

You're so logical you choose eternal torments in the fiery pit of hell over your very own golden mansion in Heaven.

- We do consider things like pleasure and pain as much as anyone else. In fact, you'll find that most atheists will generally go out of their way to avoid other human beings having to suffer pain.

We already know about atheists and their chronic masturbation habits. We're not interested in hearing about it, perv.

We don't see a problem with that as long as any activity is consensual, and all parties involved are past the age of consent. Some of us are homosexual (as some Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, and members of every other religion are), and no, I don't see a problem with that, and neither do most atheists.

That's because you don't have a moral compass. Anything goes with atheists. It's why nobody trusts you around children, and with good cause.

We do, however, have a problem when people are being tortured, or executed because they are homosexual: to put it plainly, we think of other people as equal to us, and believe that they should not face hardship simple because of being who they are.

You act like this is our idea. I'm not the one who came up with it. We didn't write the Law, we simply obey it. And God is pretty clear on this in Leviticus 20:13.

But oh, I forget... you think you know better than God.

-We tend to like evidence over faith.

All the evidence you need is in the Holy Bible. And if that doesn't suffice, just look all around you. How did all this get here? You can't answer that, but we can.

Isaiah 40:8
The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever.

Matthew 24:35
Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

Luke 16:17
And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.

-We think that the existence of a god (or lack thereof) is a question that has an answer. As all the available evidence points in the direction of there not being one, this is what we believe, until proven otherwise.

Citation needed. You are very selective about what constitutes "available evidence." The fact that God works miracles every day would seem to indicate the answer is "yes." The wealth of information He left for us in the Holy Bible would seem to indicate the answer is "yes." My personal relationship with Jesus Christ indicates that the answer is "yes."

Just because you are too deluded to comprehend the majesty of God's Word does not render it meaningless. In fact, God tells us that wicked little men like yourself are incapable of understanding His Word, so there's really no point in paying attention to anything you have to say on the subject since you necessarily speak from a position of ignorance.

I Corinthians 2:14
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

-Contrary to what you might think, we do not hate god -- just like you don't hate dragons, unicorns, and elves. We simply know that none of them exist, until proven otherwise. Conversely, we do not worship devils: we do not believe in them, either!

You say you don't hate God, yet you don't keep His Commandments.

John 14:15
If ye love me, keep my commandments.

You say you don't worship Satan, yet you ally yourselves with him in the war against all that is good and just and holy.

Matthew 12:30
He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.

This must be more of that atheist "logic" you were prattling on about before.

-We do not hate Christians, either. We simply think you are deluded into believing something that is so obviously (to us) untrue. Other than that, we think that people should be judged based on their actions rather than on their thoughts and beliefs.

But as an atheist, it is not your place to judge. God reserves that privilege for us, His chosen elect.

Psalm 37:30
The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment.

I Corinthians 5:12-13
For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

II Timothy 4:1-5
I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.

We are Christian, and you are not. We may judge you, but you may not judge us. So it is written.

I Corinthians 2:15
But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

-We believe that the Bible is a book, whose contents have been entirely selected by humans, and whose books were entirely written by other humans, with nothing divine involved anywhere in the process. As such, we feel that it ought to be criticized as much as any other book out there.

And you would be wrong. Again. The Holy Bible was written by men, but these men were moved by the Holy Spirit.

II Peter 1:21
For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

Further, God tells us that all scripture is valid. So who do I believe, the omnipotent creator of Heaven and Earth, or some mealy-mouthed unrepentent sinner on the internet?

II Timothy 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

-If you want to convert us, well... Most of us know exactly what it would take for us to change our mind. We are open-minded that way. A good read on the subject is http://www.patheos.com/blogs/crossex...nge-your-mind/ which begs the question: what would it take for YOU to change your mind?

You seem to mistake us for some liberal universal unitarian church that cherry-picks from the Bible to suit our own preconceived notions of what it means to be a Christian. We follow the entire Bible, not just the parts that stroke our egos.

As much as I'd love for you to get on your knees and accept Christ into your heart, I'm not holding out much hope. God makes it clear that He simply doesn't want some people in Heaven, so He will send them delusion. While others, like myself, He calls to His bosom. So if I had to guess, I'd say God probably just doesn't want you in Heaven with us because you'd probably just queer the place up.

Jude 1:4
For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

II Thessalonians 2:11-13
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

So to answer your second question, nothing could change my mind, since I am a Blood-Bought son of the Lamb, preordained to stand among Jesus' Elect for eternity. I'm truly sorry that you seem to have been predestined to eternal torments in the lake of fire, but I'll get over it. Too bad for you, though.

I understand that I am going to be flamed on this forum for writing what I just did, though I do hope that it satisfies the curiosity of the original poster who asked what's on an atheist's mind.

No flaming, just schooling another ignorant fool on what it means to be a True Christian(tm). You're welcome.

[Leyland]

Re: What is it like to be an atheist?

I imagine that the atheist must lead a very empty, unsatisfying life. They know no joy, nor can they find solace the way we True Christians™ do. They can't look at themselves in a mirror out of shame. They are friendless and addicted to the latest fad foods (tofu, organic dogmeat, etc). They worship science and yet are continually let down when their science gods can't heal the sick or raise the dead the way Jesus can. I imagine they spend most of their time masturbating, in a pathetic attempt to gain a few fleeting moments of relief from their daily torment.

And yet they cling to their ridiculous cult.

Actually atheists lead a great life and find great satifacton in living as a free person. They have joy in there lives, and find solace through there conciense and family and friends. I can look at myself in the mirror and be happy with myself, as I am proud for who I am. I have lots of great friends who care about me as I care about them. And I am not addicted to fast foods, infact most fast foods I hate, I frefer healthier, home cooked food. We do not worship science, we use it to improve the world, instead of talking to a man in the sky to solve our problems. I do not spend most of my time masturbating ( I have a life) and I have a fantastic life which I am happy to have.

[Pim Pendergast]

Re: What is it like to be an atheist?

Actually atheists lead a great life and find great satifacton in living as a free person. They have joy in there lives, and find solace through there conciense and family and friends. I can look at myself in the mirror and be happy with myself, as I am proud for who I am. I have lots of great friends who care about me as I care about them. And I am not addicted to fast foods, infact most fast foods I hate, I frefer healthier, home cooked food. We do not worship science, we use it to improve the world, instead of talking to a man in the sky to solve our problems. I do not spend most of my time masturbating ( I have a life) and I have a fantastic life which I am happy to have.

Real joy is something only True Christians(tm) know. Please stop being dishonest and claiming you are happy without God in your life. That is simply impossible. How about start a thread in the introduction forum and tell us why you choose to deny the reality of God's existence.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: What is it like to be an atheist?

Actually atheists lead a great life and find great satifacton in living as a free person. They have joy in there lives, and find solace through there conciense and family and friends. I can look at myself in the mirror and be happy with myself, as I am proud for who I am. I have lots of great friends who care about me as I care about them. And I am not addicted to fast foods, infact most fast foods I hate, I frefer healthier, home cooked food. We do not worship science, we use it to improve the world, instead of talking to a man in the sky to solve our problems. I do not spend most of my time masturbating ( I have a life) and I have a fantastic life which I am happy to have.

Atheists can't care about people other than a expressing a mild interest about the contents found in one's rectum, and if they can share or not.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: What is it like to be an atheist?

I do not spend most of my time masturbating ( I have a life) and I have a fantastic life which I am happy to have.

You seem a little defensive about masturbation friend. Tell me, you do realize masturbation is gay sex? After all you are have sex with a man, even if it is yourself.

[Nobbers12345]

Re: What is it like to be an atheist?

Atheists can't care about people other than a expressing a mild interest about the contents found in one's rectum, and if they can share or not.

I dislike your thought that everything against your failing cause is attracted to some guys anus. Tell me, give proof, any of it, that states that every single atheist is gay. Tell me what proof that anyone autistic is gay, as I see you are fond of saying.

In a forums that should cite each statement, you appear to be completely biased and not giving any proof.

Every man has been given free will. We can choose to do whatever we want, if it sends us to hell, so be it. What makes you thinks you can try and convert 66% percent of the world, in the name of your God's will? While you are merely contradicting yourself.

Don't be hysterical, let your non existent God deal with us that way the rest of us don't have to deal with your incoherent babbling