[Mark L. Snyde, PhD]

Re: What is it like to be an atheist?

I dislike your thought that everything against your failing cause is attracted to some guys anus.Tell me, give proof, any of it, that states that every single atheist is gay. Tell me what proof that anyone autistic is gay, as I see you are fond of saying.

Fortunately your dislike of what we say here is irrelevant regarding the Truth™ of what has been said. Unbelievers such as yourself, will inevitably take this path as stated by God:

Romans 1:27 (1611 King James Bible)

And likewise also the men, leauing the naturall vse of the woman, burned in their lust one towards another, men with men working that which is vnseemely, and receiuing in themselues that recompense of their errour which was meet.

All sin (autism and atheism included) leads to anal sex. Period. God says so.

In a forums that should cite each statement, you appear to be completely biased and not giving any proof.

You know, you could do just a little footwork here and find everything beautifully cited here in our forums. Should we have to reinvent the wheel each and every time?

For something as important as the destination of your eternal soul, you should be willing to make a little effort.

Every man has been given free will. We can choose to do whatever we want, if it sends us to hell, so be it. What makes you thinks you can try and convert 66% percent of the world, in the name of your God's will? While you are merely contradicting yourself.

No, not a mere 66%, but rather 100%, as directed by God:

Mark 16:15 (1611 King James Bible)

And he said vnto them, Goe yee into all the world, and preach the Gospel to euery creature.

Don't be hysterical, let your non existent God deal with us that way the rest of us don't have to deal with your incoherent babbling

The only hysteria and incoherence here is coming from you, friend. I have calmly meted out wisdom to you, even though you openly spit in the face of Jesus. That's how we True Christians™ roll. How do you roll, friend?

[Pastor Ed Lowman]

Re: What is it like to be an atheist?

I dislike your thought that everything against your failing cause is attracted to some guys anus. Tell me, give proof, any of it, that states that every single atheist is gay. Tell me what proof that anyone autistic is gay, as I see you are fond of saying.

In a forums that should cite each statement, you appear to be completely biased and not giving any proof.

Every man has been given free will. We can choose to do whatever we want, if it sends us to hell, so be it. What makes you thinks you can try and convert 66% percent of the world, in the name of your God's will? While you are merely contradicting yourself.

Don't be hysterical, let your non existent God deal with us that way the rest of us don't have to deal with your incoherent babbling

Brother Mark has already soundly rebuked you, so I'll just ask: What proof is good enough for an atheist? Right out of the gate, you reject the entire Bible as proof, just as you do a sunset, the smile of a child, beautiful Gospel singing, and gorgeous flowers in bloom. Why aren't those proofs good enough for you? Why must we cite some white-coated goons in a laboratory whom God hates just to satisfy your arrogant lust of man-worship?

Pastor Ed

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: What is it like to be an atheist?

I dislike your thought that everything against your failing cause is attracted to some guys anus. Tell me, give proof, any of it, that states that every single atheist is gay. Tell me what proof that anyone autistic is gay, as I see you are fond of saying.

In a forums that should cite each statement, you appear to be completely biased and not giving any proof.

Every man has been given free will. We can choose to do whatever we want, if it sends us to hell, so be it. What makes you thinks you can try and convert 66% percent of the world, in the name of your God's will? While you are merely contradicting yourself.

Don't be hysterical, let your non existent God deal with us that way the rest of us don't have to deal with your incoherent babbling

First of all, this is NOT a debate forum. We're right and you're wrong, according to Jesus and the Holy Word of God. Please read THIS thread before making an even bigger fool of yourself.

Secondly, while the internets might seem to be "free" to you, this particular corner of the internets is a privately owned Christian forum. The rights you have on this forum are listed HERE. Please contact a Pastor immediately if you feel that any of your rights have been violated.

Finally, your unsaved opinions or tantrums are not even slightly of interest to us. We follow the Holy Word of God TO THE LETTER, and make no apologies for that. One of the most important commandments in the Bible tells us to avoid unsaved scum such as yourself. You wandered in here uninvited, and unwelcome .

If you want to debate people, THIS is the place to go.

Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire.

[Scorch]

Re: What is it like to be an atheist?

Greetings,
Although some time has passed since the last post in this topic, I figured I might as well add my opinion to the discussion.

Being an atheist is not that different than being a religious person. At last as far as core values go.

I work, in order to provide for my family. I love and help out my parents whenever I can. I hang out with my friends. I do my part for the society with things like voting (it's surprising how little interest people show in shaping their own government), occasionally donating money for the charity or just helping out a person. In short, pretty much the same thing most people I know.

The only difference (as far as I can tell) is motivation. Whenever I do something good, I do it not because I am afraid of some higher power, but because I want to. That's what my parents have taught me and those are the values I grew up with.

In general I live my live so that whenever I look back at it, I have nothing to be ashamed of. Granted, that's a bit hard to achieve as it is impossible to "score" a perfect life, but all in all, I strive to have as few regrets as possible.

As for religion. I was religious. Once. Went to church as a kid, got baptized, the works. However, once I reached 16 (or 17), and stopped taking everything at face value and started to actually think things through, I realized that religion and me were not meant to be. I found the church's beliefs and values to go against what I believed in. I think it was the Book of Job (as well as the hypocritical nature of most religions as a whole) that made me change my mind.

Either way, I haven't regretted my decision and I live a happy life.

[John Creeser]

Re: What is it like to be an atheist?

Greetings,
Although some time has passed since the last post in this topic, I figured I might as well add my opinion to the discussion.

Being an atheist is not that different than being a religious person. At last as far as core values go.

I work, in order to provide for my family. I love and help out my parents whenever I can. I hang out with my friends. I do my part for the society with things like voting (it's surprising how little interest people show in shaping their own government), occasionally donating money for the charity or just helping out a person. In short, pretty much the same thing most people I know.

The only difference (as far as I can tell) is motivation. Whenever I do something good, I do it not because I am afraid of some higher power, but because I want to. That's what my parents have taught me and those are the values I grew up with.

In general I live my live so that whenever I look back at it, I have nothing to be ashamed of. Granted, that's a bit hard to achieve as it is impossible to "score" a perfect life, but all in all, I strive to have as few regrets as possible.

As for religion. I was religious. Once. Went to church as a kid, got baptized, the works. However, once I reached 16 (or 17), and stopped taking everything at face value and started to actually think things through, I realized that religion and me were not meant to be. I found the church's beliefs and values to go against what I believed in. I think it was the Book of Job (as well as the hypocritical nature of most religions as a whole) that made me change my mind.

Either way, I haven't regretted my decision and I live a happy life.

Hello Scorch (very fitting name).

yes, yes, we all bleed red and breath air. Do you know what the real difference is between the Saved and unsaved is? It's eternal damnation and I have to tell you, it breaks my heart

Day after day we get droves of atheists who come to our forum (most whom just want to mock us for our beliefs), and while you are technically not welcome here, as True Christians™ God has tasked us to reach out to you.

Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

Romans 10:14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

What happened to you that made you throw baby Jesus under the bus? Were you raised Catholic and had those dirty priests ..touch you? We're not papist scum here, we're Fundamental Baptists and I am very much interested is teaching the Bible to you, please browse our forums. As a courtesy I would ask you introduce yourself in our Introduction Area.

[Scorch]

Re: What is it like to be an atheist?

Hello Scorch (very fitting name).

yes, yes, we all bleed red and breath air. Do you know what the real difference is between the Saved and unsaved is? It's eternal damnation and I have to tell you, it breaks my heart

Day after day we get droves of atheists who come to our forum (most whom just want to mock us for our beliefs), and while you are technically not welcome here, as True Christians™ God has tasked us to reach out to you.

Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

Romans 10:14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

What happened to you that made you throw baby Jesus under the bus? Were you raised Catholic and had those dirty priests ..touch you? We're not papist scum here, we're Fundamental Baptists and I am very much interested is teaching the Bible to you, please browse our forums. As a courtesy I would ask you introduce yourself in our Introduction Area.

I was a Lutheran (still am technically as I never bothered officially to leave the church) and it doesn't matter what the "sub-title" of a church is. As long as its beliefs include God and Jesus, it's a Christian church, teaching the same beliefs in a different wrapping.

As I mentioned it was the book of Job that opened my eyes as well as the general hate and intolerance a lot of religious people tend to dish out, despite their religion being about love and tolerance towards a fellow human being.

[John Creeser]

Re: What is it like to be an atheist?

I was a Lutheran (still am technically as I never bothered officially to leave the church) and it doesn't matter what the "sub-title" of a church is. As long as its beliefs include God and Jesus, it's a Christian church, teaching the same beliefs in a different wrapping.

It most certainly does!! You can read here why the bead counting wafer munching ring kissers are NOT Christians. I take offense that you are lumping us all together.

2 Corinthians 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

[Scorch]

Re: What is it like to be an atheist?

It most certainly does!! You can read here why the bead counting wafer munching ring kissers are NOT Christians. I take offense that you are lumping us all together.

2 Corinthians 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

Interesting read, though I remain unconvinced. I mean, there's a lot of christian churches all over the world, each one claims that they're the one true church, the real deal and all that.

How can one tell which church is lying and which isn't?

Regardless, every single one of these churches teaches the same thing. Sure, the path may differ, but the end goal is the same: To follow the teachings of Jesus Christ.

Therefore, those who follow the teachings of Christ are called Christians.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: What is it like to be an atheist?

Interesting read, though I remain unconvinced. I mean, there's a lot of christian churches all over the world, each one claims that they're the one true church, the real deal and all that.

How can one tell which church is lying and which isn't?

Regardless, every single one of these churches teaches the same thing. Sure, the path may differ, but the end goal is the same: To follow the teachings of Jesus Christ.

Therefore, those who follow the teachings of Christ are called Christians.

Hi son, it seems you've bought the adversary's lies hook, line, and sinker! "Oh we can't know which is the true church so none of them must be true!" and "Oh, I just happen to adopt Christian morals but I don't call them Christian morals so it's okay!"

The truth is that you've been raised to think in loopholes, excuses that rationalize the various lusts of the flesh. I'm sorry if your words are unconvincing to me, but you have a track record of lies and deception.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: What is it like to be an atheist?

Interesting read, though I remain unconvinced. I mean, there's a lot of christian churches all over the world, each one claims that they're the one true church, the real deal and all that.

How can one tell which church is lying and which isn't?

You can tell the liars by their denial of various parts of Scripture that disagree with their worldview. True Christians(tm) embrace ALL of the Bible.

Regardless, every single one of these churches teaches the same thing. Sure, the path may differ, but the end goal is the same: To follow the teachings of Jesus Christ.

Therefore, those who follow the teachings of Christ are called Christians.

That's simply not true. Catholics (for example) like to think of themselves as Christians but they do a whole bunch of things that not only aren't IN the Bible, but are expressly FORBIDDEN by the Bible.

- calling anyone other than God "father"

- praying to dead people

- worshiping statues

etc. etc.

Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

[Scorch]

Re: What is it like to be an atheist?

Hi son, it seems you've bought the adversary's lies hook, line, and sinker! "Oh we can't know which is the true church so none of them must be true!" and "Oh, I just happen to adopt Christian morals but I don't call them Christian morals so it's okay!"

The truth is that you've been raised to think in loopholes, excuses that rationalize the various lusts of the flesh. I'm sorry if your words are unconvincing to me, but you have a track record of lies and deception.

Greetings, Mary.

I apologize, but you seem to have misunderstood me. The meaning of my question was exactly as stated. If you have 10 (for example) churches saying that they're the true one while the other 9 are wrong, and every one is saying the same thing, how do you tell which one's the real deal?

As for those morals, those are hardly unique to Christians. I mean, pretty much every religion states that loving and honoring your parents is a admirable thing, and that we all should strive towards it.

I've been raised to never take everything at face value. Especially when it comes to important decisions. I ask questions, I do research, and I try to poke as many holes in that "something" as I can. If after that, it still stands and provides me with the answers I seek, then yes, that is something I should take note of.

Also, what track record? I have been on this site for what? an hour or so? And I already seem to have a track record of lies and deception.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: What is it like to be an atheist?

Greetings, Mary.

I apologize, but you seem to have misunderstood me. The meaning of my question was exactly as stated. If you have 10 (for example) churches saying that they're the true one while the other 9 are wrong, and every one is saying the same thing, how do you tell which one's the real deal?

Easy - the one that follows the faith of Christ, as plainly expressed, in black and white, in the Holy Bible. Pretend you're a rock in the heavens and your name is Pluto and you want to be called a planet. Well, you have to meet certain requirements, right? You can pretend those requirements don't really count, and like Mr. Smyth explained you can pretend other requirements are more important. At the end of the day, however, either you qualify or you don't, depending on the requirements. Well, the Lord God Almighty wrote the requirements down. He preserved them for us humans in the pages of the King James Version Holy Bible. Others can pretend all they want, they can even tell themselves they believe it, but it doesn't matter to God who knows better.

I would offer you the same warning as well - you can convince yourself all you want that God isn't real and the Holy Bible is naught but a rich, historical, mythological narrative of the Jewish, and then Christian peoples, but God cares not for your rationalizations. You either fit the qualifications (Salvation), or you do not.

As for those morals, those are hardly unique to Christians. I mean, pretty much every religion states that loving and honoring your parents is a admirable thing, and that we all should strive towards it.

I understand for people like you, people without a moral code that transcends their own profit, all morals look the same. I understand that you would look at the Aztec religion and think of the hundreds of thousands of live sacrifices as being just another viable way to practice a personal religion. We know, however, that even something as simple sounding as honoring your mother and father is not universal, and how we honor them comes from how God changes our lives when we accept Christ into our hearts.

I've been raised to never take everything at face value. Especially when it comes to important decisions. I ask questions, I do research, and I try to poke as many holes in that "something" as I can. If after that, it still stands and provides me with the answers I seek, then yes, that is something I should take note of.

Then read the Bible, dear. You'll learn much you don't yet know.

Also, what track record? I have been on this site for what? an hour or so? And I already seem to have a track record of lies and deception.

You're a confirmed atheist. Do you realize atheists are less trustworthy than pedophiles? It's true. I would no more trust a pedophile to tell me he has a decent moral code than I would trust an atheist to say the same. Neither know the meanings of the words "decent" and "moral."

In fact, atheists are known to be more dangerous than muslims, feminists, and even sodomites.

[Scorch]

Re: What is it like to be an atheist?

Easy - the one that follows the faith of Christ, as plainly expressed, in black and white, in the Holy Bible. Pretend you're a rock in the heavens and your name is Pluto and you want to be called a planet. Well, you have to meet certain requirements, right? You can pretend those requirements don't really count, and like Mr. Smyth explained you can pretend other requirements are more important. At the end of the day, however, either you qualify or you don't, depending on the requirements. Well, the Lord God Almighty wrote the requirements down. He preserved them for us humans in the pages of the King James Version Holy Bible. Others can pretend all they want, they can even tell themselves they believe it, but it doesn't matter to God who knows better.

I would offer you the same warning as well - you can convince yourself all you want that God isn't real and the Holy Bible is naught but a rich, historical, mythological narrative of the Jewish, and then Christian peoples, but God cares not for your rationalizations. You either fit the qualifications (Salvation), or you do not.



I understand for people like you, people without a moral code that transcends their own profit, all morals look the same. I understand that you would look at the Aztec religion and think of the hundreds of thousands of live sacrifices as being just another viable way to practice a personal religion. We know, however, that even something as simple sounding as honoring your mother and father is not universal, and how we honor them comes from how God changes our lives when we accept Christ into our hearts.



Then read the Bible, dear. You'll learn much you don't yet know.





You're a confirmed atheist. Do you realize atheists are less trustworthy than pedophiles? It's true. I would no more trust a pedophile to tell me he has a decent moral code than I would trust an atheist to say the same. Neither know the meanings of the words "decent" and "moral."

In fact, atheists are known to be more dangerous than muslims, feminists, and even sodomites.

I'm sorry, but King James Version Holy Bible is the real deal? The REAL bible? As far as I recall, there are around 40 versions of the bible (please correct me if I'm wrong), yet the one published some 1600 years after the events it focuses on, is the real one?

How? What makes this version the correct one? What's wrong with the remaining 39 versions?

What is the criteria for determining which bible is the correct one?

Furthermore, the fact that there are so many versions of the bible already makes me question the reliability of the material. If there's so many people translating the bible, twisting it in accordance to their beliefs and values or working with different source materials, it's only a question of time when the result is a simple mess. Details lost in the translation, meanings given new form and so on.

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I have never said that god isn't real. Maybe he is, maybe he isn't. It's the lack of clear proof, solid evidence that makes me doubt his existence. I mean, if someone came up to me (or rather god himself did that) and proved god's existence with cold hard facts and I would then use the proof to see god with my own eyes then, yes, I would believe that god exists.

Until such proof is provided, I remain unconvinced.

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As for the rest of your post, regarding moral code, insults about pedophilia and so on. I will not comment on them, as I refuse to stoop to your level.

[Didymus Much]

Re: What is it like to be an atheist?

...the one published some 1600 years after the events it focuses on...

Couple of comments here:

You don't make explicit what point you're trying to raise. I'd bet all of the other Bibles you've meticulously compared heard of were published after 1611 (when the original KJV was printed), which means they were written at a point in time even more removed from the events in question. So point goes to the KJV.

There are even older translations available, but I think you'd have trouble absorbing "English" like this:

Genesis 1:3 (Early Wycliffe) "And God seide, Be maad liȝt; and maad is liȝt"

[Scorch]

Re: What is it like to be an atheist?

Couple of comments here:

You don't make explicit what point you're trying to raise. I'd bet all of the other Bibles you've meticulously compared heard of were published after 1611 (when the original KJV was printed), which means they were written at a point in time even more removed from the events in question. So point goes to the KJV.

There are even older translations available, but I think you'd have trouble absorbing "English" like this:

Genesis 1:3 (Early Wycliffe) "And God seide, Be maad liȝt; and maad is liȝt"

There's several things I meant in my post.

First of all, something so old should be taken with a grain of salt, since the author is working with values and beliefs that were actual in his time, but might have changed over the years.

I mean, there's such works like Odyssey and Iliad that also explain how the world came to be and so on, yet few (if any) people consider it gospel (I believe that's the term).

Also, if the KJV bible is the correct one, or at least the most accurate one, then what's the point of all the latter ones? I mean, if the one true bible came out in 17th century, and contains nothing but truth, then all the other versions that came afterwards are nothing but nonsense.

Then again, same argument could be made by picking a different version of the bible and then comparing others to it.

Besides, if KJV is the correct one, then what about the ones that came before it? What about following the vanilla version? I mean, if people are set to follow the most true bible of them all, logic dictates that the first version is the one to pick. Everything after that will be nothing more than a twisted version, that has been "adjusted" to be in accordance of the popular views of the time.

Either way, my question still stands. How does one determine that a certain version (apparently KJV in this case) is the real and correct one, and that others are nothing more than nonsense?