[BiHeathen]

Re: Hiiii

What do you mean by "being nice to each other"? It may be necessary to rebuke a sinner. Is that "being nice"?

Lev 19:17 Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.

Well the verse you are quoting is obviously about condemning from love, which is about being nice so

You should refer to the verses that immediately follow.

Jn 3:18-20

But I believe in God???

[Elmer G. White]

Re: Hiiii

But I believe in God???

Jesus told us that boasting is not enough.

Matthew 7:21
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

You also have to do the Will of God, and some aspects of this (childbearing, one flesh, not making private interpretations, etc.) have now been explained to you, so every sane person would now Repent and join us in Worship!



Yours in Christ,

Elmer

[BiHeathen]

Re: Hiiii

I am also more than a bit worried about the interpretation part, as it is one of the things assessed in the Bible itself!

2 Peter 1:20
Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

The bible deals with plenty of metaphors that are meant to be interpreted. Also, your scripture only talks about prophesy.

It is sad that you have lost many of the nice rural traditions of your country, but perhaps you still play the alpenhorn?

I'm Australian, not Austrian


Have a great day

[BiHeathen]

Re: Hiiii

Everyone has sinned (Rom 3:23). True Christians can no longer sin. It would be like killing Jesus all over again.

So I'm guessing you are not a True Christian


Luke 6:37
37 Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:


So, maybe take the plank of wood out of your own eye before you take the speck out of my eye


Have a great day

[Elmer G. White]

Re: Hiiii

The bible deals with plenty of metaphors that are meant to be interpreted. Also, your scripture only talks about prophesy.

"Prophecy"?

noun, plural prophecies. the foretelling or prediction of what is to come.

1 Timothy 2:15
Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

"Shall"?

Will and shall are modal verbs. They are used with the base form of the main verb (They will go; I shall ask her). Shall is only used for future time reference ... is more formal than will.

Prophecy = prediction of future things. Shall = a modal verb about the future. -> Shall contains a prophecy by definition.

2 Peter 1:20
Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

Thus, this means that predictions of future things are included. "She shall" is included. No private interpretation allowed. Q.E.D.

Please tell me that you at least can make a wicked pie called the Sachertorte, as it would really please your future husband!


Yours on Christ,

Elmer

[Basilissa]

Re: Hiiii

So I'm guessing you are not a True Christian


Luke 6:37
37 Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:


So, maybe take the plank of wood out of your own eye before you take the speck out of my eye


Have a great day

Honey, have you heard about logic?

You admitted that you sin with lust.

We showed you that a righteous person does not sin. Here is another verse on the matter:

1 John 3:6-9
6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

So I'm not sure where the judging part is coming from. But while you're at it, please don't forget to check out an excellent sermon about the most misunderstood passage in the Bible.

[BiHeathen]

Re: Hiiii

The fact that you are a self-admitted repeated offender shows that you do not walk with God

Does no one sin on this site or something? 1 John 1:8-10

Wrong.

1 John 5:18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.

Oh I'm sorry. Everyone except Jesus sins.

Wrong again.

Matthew 12:31-32
31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

So what you are saying is, I have been forgiven.

And as I already told you, keep reading to John 3:18.

Repent for your sins and accept Jesus into your heart!

I will pray for you.

You are a very nice person and a great Christian.
I accepted Jesus into my heart when I was 5 and repent every day, but thank you anyway

Have a great day

[Pim Pendergast]

Re: Hiiii

I am sorry if I was misconstrued as boasting. I am simply saying that there are issues with the conservative belief, such as that they dont align with passage of scripture referenced.

A Christian must be conservative -- if by conservative you mean someone who strives to conserve and obey God's laws. God revealed His laws to man from about 1,500 B.C. to 100 A.D. They did not change during this time and they have not changed since. God cannot change, and neither can His Word.

Mal 3:6a For I am the Lord, I change not.

Mt 5:17-19
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Changing times, customs and traditions are no excuse for breaking God's law. The but-it's-the-current-year argument doesn't fly with God. Jesus condemned the liberal Pharisees for allowing sons out of their Biblical obligation to financially support their parents.

Mk 7:9-13
9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.
10 For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death:
11 But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free.
12 And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother;
13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.

This commandment is still ignored by Western society, where socialist welfare states have largely taken on this role, when by rights people who won't support their parents are worse than unbelievers (1 Tim 5:8) and should be put to death (Mk 7:10).

[BiHeathen]

Re: Hiiii

I guess I'm not sure what do you mean by conservative belief. What we believe is that the Bible is the Word of God and it is to be followed. Is that a conservative belief?

'

Pastor Ezekial was trying to tell me that I had to be conservative to be Christian and I was rebutting his point.


Have a lovely day

[Didymus Much]

Re: Hiiii

Hi. I noticed a few points others haven't caught up with yet:

...no one sin is worse than another...

Wrong.

Matthew 12:31 "Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men."

...So, maybe take the plank of wood out of your own eye before you take the speck out of my eye...

Maybe you should read this thread: The Most MISUNDERSTOOD Passage in All the Bible

[BiHeathen]

Re: Hiiii

every sane person would now Repent and join us in Worship!

Umm I gave my life to Jesus when I was 5 and repent every day but try again sweaty. Also that smily thing looks like I'm joining a cult. That's really going to turn off 'unsaved trash'

[Alan Swallows Waiting for Email Confirmation]

Re: Hiiii

Lev 19:17 Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.

Well the verse you are quoting is obviously about condemning from love, which is about being nice so

So I'm guessing you are not a True Christian

Luke 6:37
37 Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:

So, maybe take the plank of wood out of your own eye before you take the speck out of my eye

I'm confused. So how are you supposed to "be nice" and rebuke your neighbor if you're not allowed to judge?

Everyone sins, and no one sin is worse than another.

John 19:11 Jesus answered, Thou couldest have no power at all against me, except it were given thee from above: therefore he that delivered me unto thee hath the greater sin.

[BiHeathen]

Re: Hiiii

"Prophecy"?
1 Timothy 2:15
Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

"Shall"?
Prophecy = prediction of future things. Shall = a modal verb about the future. -> Shall contains a prophecy by definition.

2 Peter 1:20
Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

Thus, this means that predictions of future things are included. "She shall" is included. No private interpretation allowed. Q.E.D.

I am probably going to get blocked for this, but here's a different translation of that scripture (pls moderators don't block me I love learning more about different opinions about the scripture)
Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet’s own interpretation of things.
Take with that what you will

Please tell me that you at least can make a wicked pie called the Sachertorte, as it would really please your future husband!

Why can't he make it himself?
Again I am Australian, so I can't make whatever that is but I can make a mean chocolate ripple cake for my future partner.

[BiHeathen]

Re: Hiiii

Honey, have you heard about logic?

You admitted that you sin with lust.

We showed you that a righteous person does not sin. Here is another verse on the matter:

1 John 3:6-9
6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

So I'm not sure where the judging part is coming from. But while you're at it, please don't forget to check out an excellent sermon about the most misunderstood passage in the Bible.

Again, 1 John 1:8-10


Here's an excellent blog post about judging as well

http://baysidechurch.com.au/are-christians-ever-allowed-to-judge-others/

[Basilissa]

Re: Hiiii

Does no one sin on this site or something? 1 John 1:8-10

Oh I'm sorry. Everyone except Jesus sins.

So you deny the Scripture that has been offered to you, repeatedly?

Why is it so hard to understand that 1 John 1:8-10 talks about people before they are Saved - in the context of the verses I quoted?

Or are you trying to imply that the Holy Bible is somehow internally contradictory?

So what you are saying is, I have been forgiven.

I don't think so - the fact that you keep sinning with lust in your heart shows that you're still on the road to damnation.

1 John 5:18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.

You are a very nice person and a great Christian.
I accepted Jesus into my heart when I was 5 and repent every day, but thank you anyway

Have a great day

Thank you dear, and I sincerely hope this is the day when you decide to stop sinning altogether (John 8:11).

Pastor Ezekial was trying to tell me that I had to be conservative to be Christian and I was rebutting his point.

No dear, he did not say that you have to be conservative, he was just sorry to burst your liberal bubble. Big difference, there.

Here's an excellent blog post about judging as well

Thank you, but I prefer to stick to Bible-based sermons offered at our Church.