If God is all powerful then...

[seerkpekul]

If God is all knowing then
how did he let things he doesn’t like exist,

If God is all powerful then
why hasn’t he got rid of those things,

If God is all caring then
why does Hell, hate and evil exist?

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: If God is all powerful then...

Dear friend:

God doesn't just let things He doesn't like exist; He created them:

Proverbs 16:4 KJV: 4 The LORD hath made all [things] for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.

Isaiah 45:7 KJV: 7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these [things].

The reason is to manifest His mercy and glory to His elect, those of us about whom He actually cares:

Romans 9:19-24 KJV: 19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will? 20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed [it], Why hast thou made me thus? 21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? 22 [What] if God, willing to shew [his] wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: 23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory, 24 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?

I hope that helps.

Yours in Christ (not Epicurus!),

Isaac

[seerkpekul]

Re: If God is all powerful then...

Dear friend:

God doesn't just let things He doesn't like exist; He created them:

Proverbs 16:4 KJV: 4 The LORD hath made all [things] for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.

Isaiah 45:7 KJV: 7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these [things].

The reason is to manifest His mercy to His elect, those of us about whom He actually cares:

Romans 9:19-24 KJV: 19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will? 20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed [it], Why hast thou made me thus? 21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? 22 [What] if God, willing to shew [his] wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: 23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory, 24 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?

I hope that helps.

Yours in Christ (not Epicurus!),

Isaac

Ok but if he were to actually make the world the way he wanted then he wouldn’t need to have to fix the world and then wouldn’t need to prove his so called mercy
Furthermore if he is trying to fix the world then he’s doing an awful job at it considering how much bad things have happened this he made the world

All of this just gives two options either:
1- God is not all powerful or
2- God enjoys watching people suffer

I mean come on one of God’s supposed heavenly angels turned into the devil himself, pretty bad for a being whos meant to be God’s messengers

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: If God is all powerful then...

Dear friend:

You seem to have many preconceptions about what God wants or should want, but what is your Biblical evidence for any of them? Also, have you read the Book of Job — I mean actually read it, not "learned" about it from pop-cultural osmosis?

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: If God is all powerful then...

Ok but if he were to actually make the world the way he wanted then he wouldn’t need to have to fix the world

I can stop you right there.

God has fixed the world the way he wanted, but mankind has been given freewill. God hopes and wishes that you will use that freewill to learn His Ways and obey His Commands and thus lead a life that will take you to Heaven and, at the same time, make Earth itself a paradise of peace and fruitfulness.

And yet mankind does evil, he undoes and frustrates God's Plan by his wickedness. Thus, the Earth is in turmoil.

God shows His mercy on the faithful and stops collateral damage as he smites the transgressor.

What you see that is evil is man's doing, what you see is good is God's doing.

[Basilissa]

Re: If God is all powerful then...

If God is all caring then
why does Hell, hate and evil exist?

He created all of that:

Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the Lord hath not done it?

His world, His rules, so suck it up, buttercup.

Ok but if he were to actually make the world the way he wanted

Why do you assume He did not make the world the way He wanted?

then he wouldn’t need to have to fix the world and then wouldn’t need to prove his so called mercy

God and mercy?

I assume you haven't heard of Hell, huh?

God constructed the world in such a way that most people will go to Hell and only few to Heaven:

Matthew 7:13-14
13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Of course, if He wanted to switch things around and make it easier for people to end up in Heaven, He could have. But He didn't.

Furthermore if he is trying to fix the world then he’s doing an awful job at it considering how much bad things have happened this he made the world

Why do you think He's trying to fix anything?

2- God enjoys watching people suffer

Bingo! The story of Job is a great example of God making a righteous man suffer just because He was bored and He wanted to make a bet with the Devil:

Job 1:6-12
6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them.
7 And the Lord said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the Lord, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
8 And the Lord said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?
9 Then Satan answered the Lord, and said, Doth Job fear God for nought?
10 Hast not thou made an hedge about him, and about his house, and about all that he hath on every side? thou hast blessed the work of his hands, and his substance is increased in the land.
11 But put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will curse thee to thy face.
12 And the Lord said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the Lord.

I mean come on one of God’s supposed heavenly angels turned into the devil himself, pretty bad for a being whos meant to be God’s messengers

As you can see from the verse above, the relations between God and the Devil are quite friendly.

I hope that was helpful, dear.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: If God is all powerful then...

If God is all knowing then
how did he let things he doesn’t like exist,

If God is all powerful then
why hasn’t he got rid of those things,

If God is all caring then
why does Hell, hate and evil exist?

It's simple, dear. This is for Jesus to know and you to find out (Deuteronomy 29:29)! Of course the only way to find out is through Salvation, whereupon the Saved will know everything (1 Corinthians 13:12)! Patience my dear, and obedience (John 14:23).

[James Hutchins]

Re: If God is all powerful then...

Welcome friend! You might want to read the Bible and see that God has an answer for anything. He tells us we do not need to know why and to simply trust Him, as we have done since He created us. It is called 'faith' for reason and should not be questioned.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: If God is all powerful then...

If etc.

You seem to be assuming God lives in time. What evidence is there for that?

II Peter 3:8