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  • refridgerator
    Unsaved trash, brain on ice
    • Apr 2017
    • 105

    #16
    Re: Is possible to begin to believe?

    Originally posted by Ezekiel Bathfire View Post
    No. You have taken the verse at random and without any thought or context.

    This is indicative of the deep ignorance as displayed by atheists, Catholics and the generally unsaved.

    The context is:
    Joh:3:14: And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
    Joh:3:15: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
    Joh:3:16: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
    Joh:3:17: For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
    Joh:3:18: He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

    All you have to do is
    1. Believe in Him.
    this puts you in a position to
    2. Accept Him as your Savior
    this then puts you in a position in which you are "Saved"*
    3. This then opens the possibility of entering Heaven**

    *From Romans 3:24-25 because (John 1:29), and Isaiah 53:6.Depsite the fact that we all have sinned and are justified freely, withouttheir own works and merits, by His grace, through the redemption that is inChrist Jesus, in His blood (Romans 3:23-25). Therefore, Mark 13:31.

    **Romans 9:16 onwards






    If a pick only a verse and it can be out of context, so why on earth they are written verses (with numbers)?


    I am just reading the bible literally. The context is an interpretation.

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    • Brother Gonzalez
      Another brick in Donald´s wall - A.K.A "The Gonz"
      True Christian™
       
      • Sep 2016
      • 2087

      #17
      Re: Is possible to begin to believe?

      Originally posted by refridgerator View Post
      http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=496



      If a pick only a verse and it can be out of context, so why on earth they are written verses (with numbers)?


      I am just reading the bible literally. The context is an interpretation.
      No, you are reading just one verse, and trying to troll us. Read the whole Bible.
      1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the TRUMP of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first.

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      • James Hutchins
        True Christian™
        Just a Regular Nice Guy
         
        • Jun 2009
        • 29457

        #18
        Re: Is possible to begin to believe?

        Originally posted by refridgerator View Post
        If a pick only a verse and it can be out of context, so why on earth they are written verses (with numbers)?

        I am just reading the bible literally. The context is an interpretation.
        They are numbered to keep them in order, like pages in a book or the license plate numbers of my cars. If a number is missing, you are either sloppy or some one robbed you. Jesus does not rob you, He Saves® you.
        Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
        Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
        Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
        Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
        Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
        Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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        • Ezekiel Bathfire
          Pastor for Diversity and Tolerance
          Christ's Rottweiler
           
          • Jan 2008
          • 22912

          #19
          Re: Is possible to begin to believe?

          Originally posted by refridgerator View Post
          If a pick only a verse and it can be out of context, so why on earth they are written verses (with numbers)?
          So we can find out what came before it and what went after it - context.


          Take Joh:11:35 - without context, Jesus could just have stubbed his toe on something (I did that the other day - it's really painful) or He could have been shedding a tear for people like you who simply are never going to "get it."
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          • refridgerator
            Unsaved trash, brain on ice
            • Apr 2017
            • 105

            #20
            Re: Is possible to begin to believe?

            Originally posted by Ezekiel Bathfire View Post
            So we can find out what came before it and what went after it - context.


            Take Joh:11:35 - without context, Jesus could just have stubbed his toe on something (I did that the other day - it's really painful) or He could have been shedding a tear for people like you who simply are never going to "get it."
            The numeration suggest that each statement under a verse is something in itself but within the whole. Do you see numbers in every statement in most books?

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            • James Hutchins
              True Christian™
              Just a Regular Nice Guy
               
              • Jun 2009
              • 29457

              #21
              Re: Is possible to begin to believe?

              Originally posted by refridgerator View Post
              The numeration suggest that each statement under a verse is something in itself but within the whole. Do you see numbers in every statement in most books?
              Yes


              Tell me, why do you hate God? Is it because he is through?
              Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
              Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
              Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
              Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
              Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
              Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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              • Basilissa
                South of the Border outreach program
                True Christian™
                 
                • Mar 2013
                • 12997

                #22
                Re: Is possible to begin to believe?

                Originally posted by refridgerator View Post
                The numeration suggest that each statement under a verse is something in itself but within the whole. Do you see numbers in every statement in most books?
                It happens only to important ones, dear. Regarding examples other than the Bible, have you ever heard of the Illiad? Here is a link:

                God created fossils to test our faith.

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