[James Dewitt]

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Nonsense.. If Jesus is God´s begotten son then he too must be a God!!?
So God the creator of all and the uncreated, creates another God? The now-created second God then dies to bring salvation to mankind? The sinners created by God?

Why was this verse removed from the Bible ?

1 John 5:7 - For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word (Jesus), and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

Jesus is not dead, He is alive and well thank you very much.

[Jo Freddie]

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Nonsense.. If Jesus is God´s begotten son then he too must be a God!!?
So God the creator of all and the uncreated, creates another God? The now-created second God then dies to bring salvation to mankind?

If you talk to these people long enough you will find the whole Jesus died albeit temporally) thing, was a plot between him and his old man to frame the Jews.

[Seth Campbell]

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They are all equal indeed. You can draw any prophet you want though not in a condescending way. As you yourself point out, many middle age drawing exist and no fuss have been made over those.

What cave have you been living in. There's a huge fuss about those.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Wikipedia-Given-Grief-over-Muhammad-Pictures-78167.shtml

Why would I wan´t to bomb anything ? It is the Christian world crusading and spreading Christianity (Democracy?) by the sword.

Yeah, we're not the ones bent on blowing everything up.

[James Dewitt]

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@ Achmed Doodat, you Mooslims are famous for your stoning ability, have you ever done it, I mean stone someone? It looks like fun, tell me is it? We hope next year when Sister Palin or Brother Huckabee are elected( For Life I Hope) that we will be able to stone heathens, harlots and a few million Mooslims.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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You believe that Jesus was crucified and killed? Was that the will of God?? That his Son be tormented, crucified and killed?

Yes, of course! Jesus temporarily suffered and died for my sins, and that was God's will. How can you even question that?

[Phebe Carlyle]

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Nonsense.. If Jesus is God´s begotten son then he too must be a God!!?
So God the creator of all and the uncreated, creates another God? The now-created second God then dies to bring salvation to mankind? The sinners created by God?

Why was this verse removed from the Bible ?

1 John 5:7 - For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word (Jesus), and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

What the heck are you on about? That verse is there, tucked between 1 John 5:6 and 1 John 5:8.

Actually, I will post ALL of 1 John 5 to prove my point that you are doing nothing more than bearing false witness not only us, OUR Forum, but also on God; The Lord Jesus Christ!

1 John 5

1Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.

2By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.

3For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

4For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.

5Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?

6This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.

7For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

8And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

9If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.

10He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.

11And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.

12He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.

13These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

14And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us:

15And if we know that he hear us, whatsoever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we desired of him.

16If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.

17All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death.

18We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.

19And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.

20And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.

21Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen.

YIC

Mrs Phebe Dewitt.

[Ahmad_Deedat]

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What cave have you been living in. There's a huge fuss about those.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Wikip...es-78167.shtml

Muhammad has been depicted on the building of the supreme court in Washington since 1934.. No trouble has been made over that.. Because it is not a demeaning depiction..

Get it ?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Muhammad has been depicted on the building of the supreme court in Washington since 1934.. No trouble has been made over that.. Because it is not a demeaning depiction..

Get it ?

So your satanic kooran only forids demeaning portraits of the false prophet Moohammad?

5 million islamofascists might disagree with you.

[Ahmad_Deedat]

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What the heck are you on about? That verse is there, tucked between 1 John 5:6 and 1 John 5:8.

YIC

Mrs Phebe Dewitt.

Well well. Here are a couple of 1 John 5:7´s for you..

The English standard Version of 2001 -
For there are three that testify:

The International Standard Version of 2008 -
For there are three witnesses-

The King James Bible -
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

The American standard version -
And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is the truth.

The New Living Translation of 2007 -
So we have these three witnesses--

The Darby Bible Translation -
For they that bear witness are three:

English Revised Version -
And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is the truth.

Why all these versions ?? I thought the Bible was the words of God ??? How can Gods words be revised... Again and again ??

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Why all these versions ?? I thought the Bible was the words of God ??? How can Gods words be revised... Again and again ??

I can resolve that for you, heathen. There is only ONE true Word of God. The rest are of satan, just like the kooran.

Read my sermon on the subject HERE.

[Phebe Carlyle]

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Well well. Here are a couple of 1 John 5:7´s for you..

The English standard Version of 2001 -
FAKE

The International Standard Version of 2008 -
FAKE

The King James Bible -
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

The American standard version -
FAKE

The New Living Translation of 2007 -
FAKE

The Darby Bible Translation -
FAKE

English Revised Version -
FAKE

Why all these versions ?? I thought the Bible was the words of God ??? How can Gods words be revised... Again and again ??

I don't care what the satan inspired drivel books say. We ONLY follow the KJV1611 and in OUR book, the verse you are whining about is well in tact! The KJV1611 has been proven to be the work of God.

I find it funny (not ha ha, but pathetic) that you trundle in here, questioning OUR LORD, when the person you follow in your own satan inspired drivel, is some fool whose only alleged great feat was to ride on a winged white" my little pony" to heaven.

Jesus sacrificed Himself for our sins; suffered and died temporarily and then rose again! He didn't need any props like the fake religions do!

YIC

Mrs Phebe Dewitt.

[Titus Templeton]

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I don't care what the satan inspired drivel books say. We ONLY follow the KJV1611 and in OUR book, the verse you are whining about is well in tact! The KJV1611 has been proven to be the work of God.

I find it funny (not ha ha, but pathetic) that you trundle in here, questioning OUR LORD, when the person you follow in your own satan inspired drivel, is some fool whose only alleged great feat was to ride on a winged white" my little pony" to heaven.

Jesus sacrificed Himself for our sins; suffered and died temporarily and then rose again! He didn't need any props like the fake religions do!

YIC

Mrs Phebe Dewitt.

Amen, sister.

[Lisa H]

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All I hear from you Ahmad is that Mohammad issued a Fatwa that Jesus was not the Son of God and that is what you are following. Mohammad got it wrong and is only deceiving you.

Look at what Jesus said when he was talking to his twelve disciples.

Matthew 10:1 And when he had called unto him his twelve disciples, he gave them power against unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease.


Matthew 10
14 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.
15 Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.
22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.
32 Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.
33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

[Brother Temperance]

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No! We hurl the truth against falsehood, and truth obliterates it- see how falsehood vanishes away! Woe to you [people] for the way you describe God!

Quran 21:18

The Bible says, in the Book of Job 25:4

"How then can man be justified with God? or how can he be clean that is born of a woman?"

So anyone who is born of a woman is not to be compared with God.

Is Mohammed (Pork Be Upon Him) born of a woman? If so, is he unclean?

And the Bible goes on Job 25:5

"Behold even to the moon, and it shines not; yes, the stars are not pure in his sight."

How much less is man compared to moon and stars ?

So no. I confess I do not believe Jesus to be divine or the son of God.

You believe the moon to be divine, so excuse me for taking your opinions with a pinch of salt.

Come on people. It can´t be that hard !! I don´t care what John or Matthew or Daniel or anyone else said.. Did Jesus ever claim to be God? Or the son of God?

John 14:1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
4 And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.
5 Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way?
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?
10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.

Not only is Jesus the Son of God, but the relationship between the two is clearly not just one of God working through Jesus, but also of Jesus existing in God. Case closed.

Nonsense.. If Jesus is God´s begotten son then he too must be a God!!?
So God the creator of all and the uncreated, creates another God? The now-created second God then dies to bring salvation to mankind? The sinners created by God?

Why was this verse removed from the Bible ?

1 John 5:7 - For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word (Jesus), and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

That's how it happened, and that verse is still in my Bible. I think you'll find that it makes excellent sense, especially in light of the Scripture posted above.

[Warner S. Davidson]

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Hmmmmm… I have just caught up with all of this and it appears that I have been duped. My apologies for my foolish judgement

Brothers and Sisters never, ever trust anyone that doesn’t have an American name

I was of the view that Mr. Ahmad_Deedat was here to experience the love of this Ministry and to explore the avenues of becoming an ex-demon and ascending to a worthwhile True Christian™

So it appears that he is nothing more than typical hateful mooslim scum.
Deedat, don't waste our time or God's bandwidth with all of that jibberish and Satanic spells that you have been polluting this Godly site with.

You are a mooslim hypocrite who preaches love and harmony whilst masking the actual and endemic hate and violence of your Quran / terrorist training manual

Because Jesus hates deceivers and loves and cares for True Christians™ only, DESPISED mooslim filth like you will be assured of a slow, painful and degrading death ensued by your ongoing suffering in Hell -