[gentleJ]

Re: 22:39 Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

I do love and pray for my enemies that they will see the light, but if they won't, I'm not going to cast my pearls before them. At some point, I just have to shake the dust from my feet.

Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson, you understand that you are disregarding Luke 6:27-31 with your decision?

This woun't be solved by infraction as it happened with me.

[Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson]

Re: 22:39 Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson, you understand that you are disregarding Luke 6:27-31 with your decision?

This woun't be solved by infraction as it happened with me.

You're like a dog with a bone after all the other stuff we have shown you.

27But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you,
28Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you.

We do that all the time. That is us to a tee. We love our enemies so much we attempt to save them from the fires of hell.

2 Timothy 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

1 Timothy 5:20 Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.

29And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloak forbid not to take thy coat also.
30Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask them not again.

We have people here every day that agree to not post pornography when they register here. They do it anyway. We don't turn them over to the law even though their vile disgusting posts cost us money. So yeah, that's us.

31And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.

This is the basis of our doctrine. I would want to be told I was doing wrong, wouldn't you? We warn people that they are hellbound if they don't change their ways.

[gentleJ]

Re: 22:39 Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

We have people here every day that agree to not post pornography when they register here. They do it anyway. We don't turn them over to the law even though their vile disgusting posts cost us money. So yeah, that's us.

Finally, a spark of tolerance and compassion in this mascarade of merciless zealots! And I thought your church was ucapable of such acts. Thank you for telling me this. People are complicated beings and not all of us can sincerely recive edifications by force. I woun't bother your brethren any longer. Well days to you.

[Jedediah]

Re: 22:39 Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

If you had one iota of Christian discernment, you would recognize our Christian love for what it is. Why do you think we are here, spreading God's Word to lost souls? It is precisely because of our love for them. We even love you, which is why we scourge you and chasten you. If we didn't love you, we would just ignore you and let you continue to wallow in depredation without trying to get you to wake up and realize that you will burn in the lake of fire for all eternity if you don't accept Jesus Christ as your personal LORD and Savior. Even worse, if we hated you, we would molly-coddle you and tell you that your false doctrine is a-okay. But we love you, and we want you to join us in Heaven, believe it or not.

Hebrews 12:5-8
And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:
For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

We do the work of evangelists when we reprove, rebuke and exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.

II Timothy 4:2-5
Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.

Nowhere in the Holy Bible (KJV 1611) does God tell us to molly-coddle sinners and make excuses for their wanton ways. Those who do so are the ones who practice hatred for God's Creation. Look son, we didn't write the Bible. God did. We just follow His Word. If you have a problem with what we are preaching here, don't get mad at us. Take it up with the LORD.

[BelieverInGod]

Re: 22:39 Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Brother Basher put a wonderful posting together here. I suggest you read it.

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Re: 22:39 Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

GentleJ, allow me to frame this in different terms, if you aren't getting it yet.

Your teenage son comes home acting weird. You discover he has been abusing drugs. What do you do? Do you sit back and "tolerate" it, letting him do all the drugs he wants? Or do you get into his business, take away his drugs, and punish him? Which of the two is love in your opinion?

Another scenario: You have a friend, but this friend is really hard of hearing. You are playing by the railroad tracks one day. Suddenly a train comes, blaring its horn, and your friend is oblivious to the train coming. Do you just stand aside and let him fend for himself? Or do you rush towards him, risking your life, and push him out of the way (even if he gets a little hurt falling towards the ground?). Which of the two is love in your opinion?

With this in mind, now re-read Luke 6:27-31.

[True Disciple]

Re: 22:39 Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

In your opinion we should love but not welcome, bless and hate non-christians at the same time - only so we could consider ourselves to be followers of all the prophets (belonging to different epochs) that are mentioned in KJV, even if it costs us virtues like Patience, Humility and Kindness which on practice equivalents to supporting Pride, one of the Deadly Sins...

First of all, most of my references are to Paul. Last time I checked, he was not a prophet, but an apostle, from the same epoch as Jesus Himself.

Secondly, Whatever the epochs are, all prophets spoke Words of God. As God hasn't changed through the ages, neither has His Word. Therefore, we should follow the entire Bible, not just the parts you like.

I am saddened to see such a hypocritical compromise between 2 John 1:9-11 and Luke 6:27-31.

Well, you haven't provided a better one so far, boy. God hates and loves sinners at the same time. Why shouldn't we?

Moreover our intolerable example only repels people from Christ.

If they are repelled by the Love of Christ, then their punishment in Hell is a well-deserved one.

I hope this will be the last time I recite this passage here:

But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you, Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you. And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloke forbid not to take thy coat also. Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask them not again. And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.

Your stubborn obtuseness is getting tiresome, friend.
I have quoted dozens of other Scripture Passages to consider, all of which you simply ignore, and then you just repeat your previous statements and keep acting as though the Bible consists of just three Passages, which It doesn't.

The simple fact is that none of us ever denied following Luke 6:27-31. You can keep pretending we did, but we didn't.

Now please explain, how do you follow 2 Corinthians 6:14-17, 2 Thessalonians 3:6 and 1 Corinthians 5:11?

My apologies. If you are looking for seven abominations specifically then they are in Proverbs 6, 16-19

Ah. So we shouldn't follow the prophets, but we should follow Proverbs? What's the logic behind that?

So, basically from all the scriptures above you choose to overlook on "Loving and Praying for your enemies" and continue promoting christian pride?

You are delirious. Again, friend, we do not overlook that Passage, we combine it with the rest of the Bible, which you arbitrarily choose to overlook. Please stop twisting the Bible to make Jesus seem like some liberal hippie, friend. He hates that:

2 Peter 3:15-16:
And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

[Jessica4JC]

Re: 22:39 Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Yea, True Disciple is right. You cannot hang the entire Bible on a single verse. True Disciple offers some verses that may make you rethink your position. If you make the entire Bible hinge on one verse, like Luke 6: 27-31 you are refusing the whole Bible. Because you are making the entire Bible be based on a single verse, which isn't right. It's a single verse. Take it for what it is. But, don't think the entire Bible has to be based upon it.

[True Disciple]

Re: 22:39 Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Yea, True Disciple is right. You cannot hang the entire Bible on a single verse. True Disciple offers some verses that may make you rethink your position. If you make the entire Bible hinge on one verse, like Luke 6: 27-31 you are refusing the whole Bible. Because you are making the entire Bible be based on a single verse, which isn't right. It's a single verse. Take it for what it is. But, don't think the entire Bible has to be based upon it.

Amen, Sister! Actually, transgressing even one point of the Law (and gentleJ, by not following other Verses than Luke 6:27-31, transgresses many of them) is equal to transgressing it in its entirety, which includes the "love your neighbour" part:

James 2:10:
For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: 22:39 Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Here is a question for you fluffy Christians; ok I love my neighbor, but what if some criminal forces his way into my community and steals my neighbors house and then demands the food from my table - were does it say I have to love him like my victimized neighbor?

America was a fine country before it was overrun by illegals and their gangs (aka "unions) trashed the place.