[landoverlover]

Re: Hello everyone!

Hello Brother Enoch and Thanks for your Welcoming.

As I wrote, I no longer attend to Church, and I unfortunately do not share your Religion. I came here with questions, and I think questions are what makes me, me! I could also describe myself totally free of hatred. I see beauty in almost anything, as I see no difference between good and evil. And thats me!

I also love to learn and love to read and I respect each and every idea anyone might have, even though I almost never share them. I find most things interesting.

So now you know me!

NO DIFFERENCE between good and evil? Are you kidding me? And here I thought you were a halfway decent, though seriously misguided, person.

You'd just as soon let Jeffry Dahmer babysit your kids as you would Jesus? You'd let Hitler be President of Israel? You'd trust Barack Obama to watch over the fried chicken? No evil? Friend, I fear you are beyond hope.

[svaanthe]

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Oh... I wonder what the crazy atheist is doing with his subtle questioning...

I wonder why nobody has ever tried this before...

You just read the Bible as if it is a set of instructions from God on how to conduct yourself. Try reading the threads in the forum

"Noobs" please read this before posting.

This one in particular will help.



This was in there, for example, but you were too lazy an atheist to read it.

What I am doing with my questioning is learning. I just want to know how you think.

For your second line, I couldnt tell if you were sarcastic, but I guess you were?

And for the third part, I apologize for not finding this. I try to read most of what you say, but I might miss something. So, my apologies for this! I do however understand how you are free from sentiments in this matter now. Thank you alot for that!

Lastly, I would like to ask you not to call me an Atheist, as I am no such thing. I am a Nihilist! If you do not know what this (from your point of view: invention) is, just ask and I will explain it to the best of my abilities!

[Brother Enoch]

Re: Hello everyone!

Hello Brother Enoch and Thanks for your Welcoming.

As I wrote, I no longer attend to Church, and I unfortunately do not share your Religion. I came here with questions, and I think questions are what makes me, me! I could also describe myself totally free of hatred. I see beauty in almost anything, as I see no difference between good and evil. And thats me!

No difference between good and evil? I'm not sure I follow. Hitler, for example, killing hundreds of Jews, you don't find that evil? Or Jeffrey Dahmer killing and eating his victims, not evil? Child rapists, not evil? Democrats, not evil? 9/11 terrorists, not evil? Bernie Madoff, not evil?

I really don't get where you're coming from. I have to assume we have a misunderstanding here. Maybe American isn't your first language? A lot of misunderstandings are simply the result of communication difficulties, and I'd hate to see something like that happen. Are you from some foreign land?

[Redeemed Papist]

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I have a hunch he's going to turn out Swedish. Don't ask me why.

No - wait - he's already admitted it earlier. They all look the same.

[svaanthe]

Re: Hello everyone!

NO DIFFERENCE between good and evil? Are you kidding me? And here I thought you were a halfway decent, though seriously misguided, person.

You'd just as soon let Jeffry Dahmer babysit your kids as you would Jesus? You'd let Hitler be President of Israel? You'd trust Barack Obama to watch over the fried chicken? No evil? Friend, I fear you are beyond hope.

The part with Barack Obama gave me a LARGE giggle! Haha!

I will try to explain this lack of difference for me.

I would never let Jeffry Dahmer babysit my kids (definitely not if they were boys) and I would never let Hitler be president of Israel, as I subjectivly think their actions are wrong. But still, as Hitler acted as he did, he must have felt it was the right thing to do. Hence Right or Wrong, or Good or Evil, does not objectivly exist. I do not believe Hitler frowned upon his own actions, or that he felt he deserved to be punished for what he did. Do you get my point?

[Brother Enoch]

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I have a hunch he's going to turn out Swedish. Don't ask me why.

No - wait - he's already admitted it earlier. They all look the same.

Isn't that the third Swiss person here today alone? Very odd. Maybe there's a forum over in Switzerland discussing us or something.

[svaanthe]

Re: Hello everyone!

No difference between good and evil? I'm not sure I follow. Hitler, for example, killing hundreds of Jews, you don't find that evil? Or Jeffrey Dahmer killing and eating his victims, not evil? Child rapists, not evil? Democrats, not evil? 9/11 terrorists, not evil? Bernie Madoff, not evil?

I really don't get where you're coming from. I have to assume we have a misunderstanding here. Maybe American isn't your first language? A lot of misunderstandings are simply the result of communication difficulties, and I'd hate to see something like that happen. Are you from some foreign land?

You are right in that American is not my first language, and also correct in that I'm a foreigner. But I must dissappoint you in that it is not a matter of misunderstanding. I actually do not see good and evil as truth. I see them as mere guidelines.

[Redeemed Papist]

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But still, as Hitler acted as he did, he must have felt it was the right thing to do. Hence Right or Wrong, or Good or Evil, does not objectivly exist. I do not believe Hitler frowned upon his own actions, or that he felt he deserved to be punished for what he did. Do you get my point?

It's not about what you think should happen if you murder a million people or if it's wrong, it's about what God thinks. It's like explaining breathing to someone, seriously.

God doesn't want you to think or come up with alternative ways to value things. God wants you to do as you're told or burn forever.

For someone not debating you are in love with your own opinion.

Proverbs 18:2 A fool hath no delight in understanding, but that his heart may discover itself.

[Redeemed Papist]

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Isn't that the third Swiss person here today alone? Very odd. Maybe there's a forum over in Switzerland discussing us or something.

Your insight is astounding, brother.

[svaanthe]

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It's not about what you think should happen if you murder a million people or if it's wrong, it's about what God thinks. It's like explaining breathing to someone, seriously.

God doesn't want you to think or come up with alternative ways to value things. God wants you to do as you're told or burn forever.

For someone not debating you are in love with your own opinion.

Proverbs 18:2 A fool hath no delight in understanding, but that his heart may discover itself.

I was asked about it, and therefore I answered out of mere respect. But I'm willing to drop this, and go on with learning about You.

[landoverlover]

Re: Hello everyone!

The part with Barack Obama gave me a LARGE giggle! Haha!

I will try to explain this lack of difference for me.

I would never let Jeffry Dahmer babysit my kids (definitely not if they were boys) and I would never let Hitler be president of Israel, as I subjectivly think their actions are wrong. But still, as Hitler acted as he did, he must have felt it was the right thing to do. Hence Right or Wrong, or Good or Evil, does not objectivly exist. I do not believe Hitler frowned upon his own actions, or that he felt he deserved to be punished for what he did. Do you get my point?

Yeah, I get your point. You are a troll. How'm I doing?

[Redeemed Papist]

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I was asked about it, and therefore I answered out of mere respect. But I'm willing to drop this, and go on with learning about You.

You see that's the problem.

We're not here to talk about ourselves like some vainglorious fool proud of all the different ways he hates God - we're here to warn people about what God really means in the Bible that's being watered down by wishy washy apologists trying to be nice rather than save souls.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Hello everyone!

I would never let Jeffry Dahmer babysit my kids (definitely not if they were boys) and I would never let Hitler be president of Israel, as I subjectivly think their actions are wrong. But still, as Hitler acted as he did, he must have felt it was the right thing to do. Hence Right or Wrong, or Good or Evil, does not objectivly exist. I do not believe Hitler frowned upon his own actions, or that he felt he deserved to be punished for what he did. Do you get my point?

Hitler knew he was behaving in a imoral fashion. Most of the what he had ordered done like the Death Camps, the Starvation Program, the Eugenics Program and the Fog and Night program was done in secret to deliberately hide it from his fellow Germans.

Secondly I can see why you claim to be a Nihilst and not an Atheist because even Atheist accept there is such a thing as right or wrong - the whole Golden Rule thing they claim is a product of game theory. Atheists just want to turn humans into animals so they can have ass sex with anyone they want.

You sir want to be a Nihlist just to justify being a psychopath. With that in mind why wouldn't you let Dahmer babysit your children? Not like having them tortured to death maters.

[svaanthe]

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Okey, thank you for this!

First of all, I am no troll, but i damn hope you are!

Now:

You guys have shown me that you have little to no room in your heart for love. You also showed me that your whole sects message is "Ignorance is bliss, dont think for yourself, and intelligence is a sin!". I came here with full respect, with no hatred, showed you no disrespect, yet, you show alot of aggression to anything I had to say, even though i didnt ram it down your throat. I answered only on questions. Should i have lied? Should i have said things i dont stand for? I cant help being who i am.

Now to your bizarre religion. KJV1611 was written by man, hence it is not the word of god. Please ask yourself the question if you would still worship your false god if you had been born in Japan? or China? No, you would have belong to another religion then. Would an ombipotent god be so stupid to give love to specific regions? You dont chose were to be born, and therefore you cant help what you believe!

People will always laugh at you, you complacant, proud, ignorant, miserable small fraction of Mankind. What says you are right? Yeah, your handmade piece of crap. But think about how small a minority you are! Would an omnipotent god reveal himself in such a manner so that only a very little part of the world would be able to praise him correctly? Absolutely not! Its his creation, hence he would take care of it properly.

I feel sorry for all of you. Wasting your lives on hatred when you can just show love and compassion. You do not appreciate life at all. If there is a god, i damn hope he will guide you into love.

Im sure you have heard most of what i wrote, but then comes the question about pride. It IS pride if you say you are correct and all other wrong.

Matthew 23:13 - But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.

Good bye.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Hello everyone!

Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,