[Redeemed Papist]

Re: I am French and I come in peace.

However so far i dident see any one actualy try to help Hebrews 13:16 , i still miss to see one single person to share what they have and thereby make me understand why i should return to God,

You should return to God because He will burn you forever after you die if you don't. How is warning you of this very simple truth hateful?

John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

1 John 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.

Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Acts 16:31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

It really is that simple. You're trying to make something very straightforward very complicated because you have this idea that God ought to be nice.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: I am French and I come in peace.

As i said all the time; Try and make me understand, and belive again,

Being as you are a godless frog, I am surprised that you have not heard of Blaise Pascal. A man of extreme logic (or as you say "logique extreme") who stated as a universal truth that it is better to believe in God because even if there is no God, then nothing has been lost, whereas if there is a God, then you are assured of Eternal Life.

OK? With that, I assume you have become a believer, what is your favorite Bible Verse?

[Brother Temperance]

Re: I am French and I come in peace.

However so far i dident see any one actualy try to help Hebrews 13:16 , i still miss to see one single person to share what they have and thereby make me understand why i should return to God,

I have the peace that passeth all understanding. I have a soul which has been washed clean of sin. I would like to share my good fortune with you, but you need to accept Jesus first.

[tomasespensen]

Re: I am French and I come in peace.

Being as you are a godless frog, I am surprised that you have not heard of Blaise Pascal. A man of extreme logic (or as you say "logique extreme") who stated as a universal truth that it is better to believe in God because even if there is no God, then nothing has been lost, whereas if there is a God, then you are assured of Eternal Life.

OK? With that, I assume you have become a believer, what is your favorite Bible Verse?

I dont know how you figured i am frensh, i am Norweigian, liveing in Germany.

I have the peace that passeth all understanding. I have a soul which has been washed clean of sin. I would like to share my good fortune with you, but you need to accept Jesus first.

I do accepot that Jesus are real, aswell i accept that God are real, i just have no reason to turn back to believe that they are the Good guyes, as all i ever had was bad things

[Brother Temperance]

Re: I am French and I come in peace.

I do accepot that Jesus are real, aswell i accept that God are real, i just have no reason to turn back to believe that they are the Good guyes, as all i ever had was bad things

Friend, you really need to learn the story of Job. I'd recommend starting here and working your way on from there. It'll teach you a lot.

[tomasespensen]

Re: I am French and I come in peace.

Friend, you really need to learn the story of Job. I'd recommend starting here and working your way on from there. It'll teach you a lot.

I do see your point, however i dont see where it sayes that Job get better in live NOR does it say that he was rewarded in heaven. In other words, i am expected to take crap in live to get more crap in death?

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: I am French and I come in peace.

I do see your point, however i dont see where it sayes that Job get better in live NOR does it say that he was rewarded in heaven. In other words, i am expected to take crap in live to get more crap in death?

God has smitten you with being an almost illiterate troll for a reason. If you choose to interpret that as a prompt to do what you want and not a prompt for you to fear Hell fire and get with Jesus then that really is your affair.

Perhaps you are just one of those God chose to fail horribly and go to Hell. I mean it's obvious He has chosen us to go to Heaven. alas, there's always a flip side and you seem to be it.

1 Corinthians 2:7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Ephesians 1:11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who works all things after the counsel of his own will:

It's a tough break for you but I guess you'll just have to bear up.

[tomasespensen]

Re: I am French and I come in peace.

Perhaps you are just one of those God chose to fail horribly and go to Hell. I mean it's obvious He has chosen us to go to Heaven. alas, there's always a flip side and you seem to be it.

Yeah i alwayes was a fail

[Brother Temperance]

Re: I am French and I come in peace.

I do see your point, however i dont see where it sayes that Job get better in live NOR does it say that he was rewarded in heaven. In other words, i am expected to take crap in live to get more crap in death?

If it's good enough for Job, it's good enough for you. By the way, Job almost certainly was rewarded in Heaven for his faith. But, if God decided to punish him in the afterlife for some reason, well, that's just God being God.

[Thomas Dalton]

Re: I am French and I come in peace.

I do see your point, however i dont see where it sayes that Job get better in live NOR does it say that he was rewarded in heaven. In other words, i am expected to take crap in live to get more crap in death?

Job 42:10-17:
10And the LORD turned the captivity of Job, when he prayed for his friends: also the LORD gave Job twice as much as he had before.

11Then came there unto him all his brethren, and all his sisters, and all they that had been of his acquaintance before, and did eat bread with him in his house: and they bemoaned him, and comforted him over all the evil that the LORD had brought upon him: every man also gave him a piece of money, and every one an earring of gold.

12So the LORD blessed the latter end of Job more than his beginning: for he had fourteen thousand sheep, and six thousand camels, and a thousand yoke of oxen, and a thousand she asses.

13He had also seven sons and three daughters.

14And he called the name of the first, Jemima; and the name of the second, Kezia; and the name of the third, Kerenhappuch.

15And in all the land were no women found so fair as the daughters of Job: and their father gave them inheritance among their brethren.

16After this lived Job an hundred and forty years, and saw his sons, and his sons' sons, even four generations.

17So Job died, being old and full of days.

God killed his wife and children, but it was okay since He gave Job new ones. Better ones! You see how righteous God is?

[tomasespensen]

Re: I am French and I come in peace.

God killed his wife and children, but it was okay since He gave Job new ones. Better ones! You see how righteous God is?

Real good points Mr Dalton. I must admit that i cant recall all the bible, so i was in reading about the Job, in the "Learn the bible in a year" section (as a link was posted to me in here) and there theese lines was not, so I am indeed sorry, that i said that Job just suffered.

And i do see the point here as Job helped God win a bet, he will be rich and all, but are you telling me that if i return to God and Jesus, then i eventyaly will get more in return for the crap i have taken?

I am not speial like Job, and i dont help God. Have anyone at LBC been in similar situation as me, and where all turned out good, then i would gladly know of it, for to be fair, i do also feel a tad bad of rejeting God, and at the beginning i was hopeing for a sign saying " hey dewd, return to me, i am not that bad" but i disovered that even turning the bak to God, it dident get better, but it dident get worse either