Some Serious Questions

[Rational_Thinker]

I'm not here to "flame" you people, but I do have some questions for you....

1) The Baptists say the Catholics are wrong, who say the the Lutherans are wrong, who say that the Methodists are wrong, etc... Wouldn't it be safe to assume that they are all wrong?

2) I glanced over a few posts that were titled something to the effect of "God Hates whoever". Doesn't it say very implicitly in your bible that God loves everyone? Where do you guys get off decreeing that God hates whoever?!!

3) How can you guys dislike Mormons, and call them crazy? It's not like their beliefs are any crazier then yours!!!

Anyone have any real answers for these questions? I'd love to hear them.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Some Serious Questions

I'm not here to "flame" you people, but I do have some questions for you....

1) The Baptists say the Catholics are wrong, who say the the Lutherans are wrong, who say that the Methodists are wrong, etc... Wouldn't it be safe to assume that they are all wrong?

2) I glanced over a few posts that were titled something to the effect of "God Hates whoever". Doesn't it say very implicitly in your bible that God loves everyone? Where do you guys get off decreeing that God hates whoever?!!

3) How can you guys dislike Mormons, and call them crazy? It's not like their beliefs are any crazier then yours!!!

Anyone have any real answers for these questions? I'd love to hear them.

First of all, this is NOT a debate forum. We're right and you're wrong, according to Jesus. Please read THIS thread before making an even bigger fool of yourself.

Secondly, while the internets might seem to be "free" to you, this particular corner of the internets is a privately owned Christian forum. The rights you have on this forum are listed HERE. Please contact a Pastor immediately if you feel that any of your rights have been violated.

Finally, your unsaved opinions or tantrums are not even slightly of interest to us. We follow the Holy Word of God TO THE LETTER, and make no apologies for that. One of the most important commandments in the Bible tells us to avoid unsaved scum such as yourself. You wandered in here uninvited, and unwelcome .

If you want to debate people, THIS is the place to go.

Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire.

[Rational_Thinker]

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And then referring to us as "Unsaved Trash"?!!! That's quite a judgment coming from people who believe in talking snakes and virgin births and similar nonsense..........

[Redeemed Papist]

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Tell us what church you go to and what your favorite Bible verse is and how you came to find Jesus.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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And then referring to us as "Unsaved Trash"?!!! That's quite a judgment coming from people who believe in talking snakes and virgin births and similar nonsense..........

The Holy Bible tells us to avoid unsaved scum such as yourself. Get thee hence!

"Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds" -- 2 John 1:9-11

[Rational_Thinker]

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So now you're calling me names? Unsaved scum? I'm not christian, but I was obviously raised better than you. Is calling people names a christian value? My family is christian, and I don't think it is..........

[Redeemed Papist]

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So now you're calling me names? Unsaved scum? I'm not christian, but I was obviously raised better than you. Is calling people names a christian value? My family is christian, and I don't think it is..........

Revelation 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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So now you're calling me names? Unsaved scum? I'm not christian, but I was obviously raised better than you. Is calling people names a christian value? My family is christian, and I don't think it is..........

Jesus hates, and He hates you. If you were a Christian, you would know that.

"DOGS" Matt. 7:6 Jesus said, "Give not that which is holy unto the dogs" (see also 2 Peter 2:20-22, Rev. 22:15)
"SWINE" Matt. 7:6 "...neither cast your pearls before swine"
"VIPERS" Matt. 3:7 "O generation of vipers..." (see also Matt. 12:34, 23:33 and Luke 3:7)
"HYPOCRITES" Matt.6:2 "...as the hypocrites in the synagogues..." (see also Matt.6:5, 16, 15:7, 16:3, 22:18, 23:13-15, 29, 24:51, Mark 7:6, Luke 11:44, 12:56)
"CHILDREN OF THE DEVIL" John 8:44 "You are of your father the devil..." (see also Acts 13:10)
"PERVERSE" Mat. 17:17"...O faithless and perverse generation" (see also Luke 9:41, Acts 20:30, Phil. 2:15, 1Tim. 6:5)
"REPROBATE" 2Cor 13:5-7 "...except ye be reprobates" (see also Rom 1:28, 2Tim. 3:8, Tit. 1:16)
"HEATHEN" Mat. 6:7 "...as the heathen do" (see also Mat.18:17, Act 4:25, 2Cor. 11:26, Gal. 1:16, 2:9, 3:8)
"FOOLS" Mat. 23:17 "...Ye fools and blind" (see also Luke 12:20, 1Cor.15:36, Mat.23:19, Luke 11:40, 24:25, Eph. 5:15)
"O YE OF LITTLE FAITH" (Christ's favorite name for His apostles!) Mat.6:30, 8:26, 14:31, etc., etc., etc.
"STIFFNECKED AND UNCIRCUMCISED" Acts7:53 "...stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart"
"LIARS, EVIL BEASTS, SLOW BELLIES" Titus 1:12 (see also 2Peter 2:12, Jude 10)
"ADULTERERS AND ADULTERESSES" Hebrews 13:4 "...whoremongers and adulterers God will judge" James 4:4 "Ye adulterers and adulteresses..." (see also Rom 7:3, Mat. 12:39, 16:4, Mark 8:38)
"WHITED WALL" Acts 23:3 Paul to the high priest .

[Rational_Thinker]

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I have my bible next to me, can you please point out the verse where it says that "Jesus hates"? Is your head really shoved so far up your ass that you can't approach this in a rational manner? I asked questions, and you spat venom at me!!!

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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I have my bible next to me, can you please point out the verse where it says that "Jesus hates"? Is your head really shoved so far up your ass that you can't approach this in a rational manner? I asked questions, and you spat venom at me!!!

You want to claim that "Jesus does not hate anyone."

That's not true. God hates the sin AND the sinner, and Jesus is God (John 10:30 I and my Father are one.).

Lev 20:23 And ye shall not walk in the manners of the nation, which I cast out before you: for they committed all these things, and therefore I abhorred them.

Hosea 9:15 All their wickedness is in Gilgal: for there I hated them: for the wickedness of their doings I will drive them out of mine house, I will love them no more: all their princes are revolters.

Please read the WHOLE Bible before it's too late.

Before you complain about the the fact that the verses I cited were from the Old Testament, as if that somehow makes them worthless, consider this:

In the Old Testament, it says that God hates "all workers of iniquity" (Ps 5:5).

In the New Testament, what does Jesus say that he is going to do to these workers of iniquity? Is he going to love them? Is he going to be their pal, and tell them that it's ok to be themselves? Let's see...

Matt 13:41-42 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

I pray that you have found this enlightening.





I posted the verse next to each example above, fool. Look them up and see if I'm wrong! We aren't here to spoon feed you. This is a Christian forum.

[Wide-Open]

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I have my bible next to me, can you please point out the verse where it says that "Jesus hates"?

Pastor Zeke just did, you drooling idjit!

PS: I very much doubt you have a Bible (let alone the KJV version, a.k.a. the Only One) next to you.

Because, if you had, you could actually look up all those verses, and could have avoided sounding like a total doofus.

[Redeemed Papist]

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I have my bible next to me, can you please point out the verse where it says that "Jesus hates"? Is your head really shoved so far up your ass that you can't approach this in a rational manner? I asked questions, and you spat venom at me!!!

Revelation 2:18-23
18And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass;

19I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last to be more than the first. 20Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols. 21And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not. 22Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. 23And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.

Jesus is coming, sinner, and He will kill you and burn you.

Revelation 3:15-16

15I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. 16So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth

[Rational_Thinker]

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I began by asking questions, and you started calling me names.....? Is that what Christianity instructs you to do

"Yea, go forth into the internet, and call those who question our teachings names"

Get real man.

And here I was thinking that Jesus and Christianity were all about spreading love and peace for your fellow man, putting others before you and living a good life. From what you said, I guess I was wrong! According to you, this religion must be about hate and intolerance towards anyone different than you.

Yeah, I found your scripture quotes enlightening alright.............

[Redeemed Papist]

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And here I was thinking that Jesus and Christianity were all about spreading love and peace for your fellow man, putting others before you and living a good life. From what you said, I guess I was wrong! According to you, this religion must be about hate and intolerance towards anyone different than you.

Now we're getting somewhere! That didn't take long, did it!

[Rational_Thinker]

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...and I have to say. The name calling is very much deserved.