[redhaven]

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I've received a private message from Redeemed Papist, saying that calling pastors and priests ''father'' is only done by catholics. I'm really sorry about that. I wasn't aware of that.

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If God would really exist then He would be a real meanie, because I can tell from what I know from the Bible. It happened quite often that when God punished the bad people, he'd also punish a lot of good (who had nothing to do with) people. If God really is merciful, then why does He want people not believing in Him to burn for all eternity?

The Bible claims that God had flooded the entire earth, just because some people were bad, therefore all the other people who didn't do anything wrong, had to die too. Only Moses and some animals survived.

When the Jews we're being suppressed by the Egyptians, God punished the Egyptians with the 10 plagues, which would also hit innocent (Egyptian) people.

You're claiming that it doesn't matter if you're either Hitler or Nelson Mandela, you'll go to hell, just because you don't believe in God.
Why isn't God more like Gandhi? Why is it so important for God to believe in Him?

How many of you true christians are believing in God, just to save themselves, so they can go to heaven?

You know, if a human would flood the entire planet, then we would call that person a mass murderer. God is exactly that, intolerant against dissenters, kills/punishes good people without any reason and doesn't punish the real evil people like Breivik. If I'd need to believe in such a God, only so I can go to heaven, well, then I'd rather go to hell and burn for my own righteous concious.

[Roberta]

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Why isn't God more like Gandhi?

You think God would want to be a pifflin' dot?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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People like Mohandas Gandhi, Mother Theresa and Nelson Mandela were all very good people. I think those people deserve a lot more than most of us do, for example Mandela. I've seen the movie Invictus which is about him, and there was one quote that really touched me and which was the following: I was thinking about how you spend 30 years in a tiny cell, and come out ready to forgive the people who put you there. - Francois Pienaar about Nelson Mandela. In my opinion those people really do have the heart of a God, they help and forgive people no matter how bad they get treated.

Gandhi is a dead demon worshiper who used to beat his wife with a stick.

Mother Theresa is a dead hunchbacked Albainan whore who used to beat her novices with a stick, and was often arrested by the Calcutta police for getting into street brawls.


Mandela is an avowed communist and a convicted terrorist.

None of them are Saved(c). Not one of them has accepted Jesus. Two out of the three of them are in hell right now being tortured by demons. The third is going to board the train to hell any day now, when Jesus kills him and sends him down to nigra hell, where I presume there is no watermelon, fried chicken of White women to rape.

Being nice won't get you into Heaven, pal. Read my sermon on the subject HERE.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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No, as I said multiple times, I don't consider the Bible as evidence. There's nothing proving that the Bible is true.

So you're an atheist, then. So why are you here?

I don't know much about Gandhi other than he felt he had to wash his hands after shaking hands with any Muslim. And hated Negroes. And was queer.

He is known as a kindly father figure in India, but Mahatma Gandhi was also a racist bisexual who left his wife for a male Jewish bodybuilder, according to reports of a controversial new biography.

In Great Soul: Mahatma Gandhi And His Struggle With India, former New York Times executive editor Joseph Lelyveld paints a different picture of the Indian independence leader and activist. As the Wall Street Journal is reporting, the book "obligingly gives readers more than enough information to discern that [Gandhi] was a sexual weirdo, a political incompetent and a fanatical faddist -- one who was often downright cruel to those around him."

And Mother Teresa? There's a whole movement devoted to her. She was a depraved monster who thought suffering brought people closer to God, so she collected millions for "houses of healing" where people were laid out to slowly die without medicine or painkillers, on mats on the floor of crowded rooms. But don't believe me, ask that dead atheist you all like so much:

MT was not a friend of the poor. She was a friend of poverty. She said that suffering was a gift from God. She spent her life opposing the only known cure for poverty, which is the empowerment of women and the emancipation of them from a livestock version of compulsory reproduction. And she was a friend to the worst of the rich, taking misappropriated money from the atrocious Duvalier family in Haiti (whose rule she praised in return) and from Charles Keating of the Lincoln Savings and Loan. Where did that money, and all the other donations, go? The primitive hospice in Calcutta was as run down when she died as it always had been—she preferred California clinics when she got sick herself—and her order always refused to publish any audit. But we have her own claim that she opened 500 convents in more than a hundred countries, all bearing the name of her own order. Excuse me, but this is modesty and humility?

The rich world has a poor conscience, and many people liked to alleviate their own unease by sending money to a woman who seemed like an activist for "the poorest of the poor." People do not like to admit that they have been gulled or conned, so a vested interest in the myth was permitted to arise, and a lazy media never bothered to ask any follow-up questions. Many volunteers who went to Calcutta came back abruptly disillusioned by the stern ideology and poverty-loving practice of the "Missionaries of Charity," but they had no audience for their story. George Orwell's admonition in his essay on Gandhi—that saints should always be presumed guilty until proved innocent—was drowned in a Niagara of soft-hearted, soft-headed, and uninquiring propaganda.

One of the curses of India, as of other poor countries, is the quack medicine man, who fleeces the sufferer by promises of miraculous healing. Sunday was a great day for these parasites, who saw their crummy methods endorsed by his holiness and given a more or less free ride in the international press. Forgotten were the elementary rules of logic, that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence and that what can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. More than that, we witnessed the elevation and consecration of extreme dogmatism, blinkered faith, and the cult of a mediocre human personality. Many more people are poor and sick because of the life of MT: Even more will be poor and sick if her example is followed. She was a fanatic, a fundamentalist, and a fraud, and a church that officially protects those who violate the innocent has given us another clear sign of where it truly stands on moral and ethical questions.

I don't know much about Mandela, but if you're praising him along with these two monsters, he can't be much of a man.

[redhaven]

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Explain me why you accept a God who kills millions of innocent people, is a racist, intolerant towards people with a different perspective, doesn't punish the real evil people like breivik and doesn't really show he's really out there. Why is your God so violent and unmerciful? I know a lot of friendly christians, and they tell me God is merciful and accepts everyone no matter the colour of their skin or gender.

[Jack O'fagan]

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Explain me why you accept a God who kills millions of innocent people, is a racist, intolerant towards people with a different perspective, doesn't punish the real evil people like breivik and doesn't really show he's really out there. Why is your God so violent and unmerciful? I know a lot of friendly christians, and they tell me God is merciful and accepts everyone no matter the colour of their skin or gender.

You know friendly christians who know nothing of God's word. They won't have read the Bible and have just blindly accepted the lies from some guy in a dress. They are false Christians, we follow His word and are True Christians.

1 Timothy 4:1
Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

YIC

Jack

[Redeemed Papist]

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Explain me why you accept a God who kills millions of innocent people, is a racist, intolerant towards people with a different perspective, doesn't punish the real evil people like breivik and doesn't really show he's really out there. Why is your God so violent and unmerciful? I know a lot of friendly christians, and they tell me God is merciful and accepts everyone no matter the colour of their skin or gender.

Are you saying there's another God we could choose?

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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Explain me why you accept a God who kills millions of innocent people, is a racist, intolerant towards people with a different perspective,

Gandhi?!

doesn't punish the real evil people like breivik

Why do you think Breivik is "really evil", and why do you think that, if God finds him to be evil, he won't be punished?

Do you know what "evil" is? Evil is disobeying God. That's it. "Good" is obeying God. In spite of what your modern, secular humanist "morals" might tell you.

and doesn't really show he's really out there.

What, you've never noticed the universe? Look at the stars some clear night and tell me God's not out there. Where else would they come from?

Why is your God so violent and unmerciful? I know a lot of friendly christians, and they tell me God is merciful and accepts everyone no matter the colour of their skin or gender.

Because those false Christian friends of yours are telling you half-truths.

God is merciful, to those toward whom He wishes to show mercy.

God is pitiless to those who refuse to obey Him. Like you.

So, why are you here, atheist?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Explain me why you accept a God who kills millions of innocent people, is a racist, intolerant towards people with a different perspective, doesn't punish the real evil people like breivik and doesn't really show he's really out there. Why is your God so violent and unmerciful? I know a lot of friendly christians, and they tell me God is merciful and accepts everyone no matter the colour of their skin or gender.

First of all, this is NOT a debate forum. We're right and you're wrong, according to Jesus and the Holy Word of God. Please read THIS thread before making an even bigger fool of yourself.

Secondly, while the internets might seem to be "free" to you, this particular corner of the internets is a privately owned Christian forum. The rights you have on this forum are listed HERE. Please contact a Pastor immediately if you feel that any of your rights have been violated.

Finally, your unsaved opinions or tantrums are not even slightly of interest to us. We follow the Holy Word of God TO THE LETTER, and make no apologies for that. One of the most important commandments in the Bible tells us to avoid unsaved scum such as yourself. You wandered in here uninvited, and unwelcome .

If you want to debate people, THIS is the place to go.

Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

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Explain me why you accept a God who kills millions of innocent people, is a racist, intolerant towards people with a different perspective, doesn't punish the real evil people like breivik and doesn't really show he's really out there.

Because I will be burned in Hell for all eternity if I do not.

Why do you reject forgiveness and choose to be tortured forever?

Why is your God so violent and unmerciful? I know a lot of friendly christians, and they tell me God is merciful and accepts everyone no matter the colour of their skin or gender.

It is not my place to question God; he might toss me into Hell. He promises to toss false prophets who add to and take away from the Bible into Hell, like the friendly pseudo-Christians you are describing. If you had bothered to read the Bible instead of attending public school you would know this.

Now do you understand why we TRUE Christians(tm) are so impatient with people?

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Explain me why you accept a God who kills millions of innocent people, is a racist, intolerant towards people with a different perspective, doesn't punish the real evil people like breivik and doesn't really show he's really out there. Why is your God so violent and unmerciful? I know a lot of friendly christians, and they tell me God is merciful and accepts everyone no matter the colour of their skin or gender.

If you accept Jesus as your saviour and repent you go to Heaven.

Is that too much for your Creator to ask?

YIC

[redhaven]

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It's just can't believe in a God who wants millions of people to live in poverty. I can't accept that it's Gods will that kids born in slums have no hope on better life; while a lot of rich people don't even know what to do with all their money and just spend it on limo's, helicopters and dozens pairs of shoes; still most of these people are the first to complain when the goverment wants to increase tax for those rich folks. Why did God allow 9/11 to occur? Why do pedophiles and murderers get acquittal, even though evidency clearly shows they are guilty?

No, if I'd really need to believe in such a God, then I'd rather burn in hell as an ''evil'' humanist.

[Redeemed Papist]

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It's just can't believe in a God who wants millions of people to live in poverty. I can't accept that it's Gods will that kids born in slums have no hope on better life; while a lot of rich people don't even know what to do with all their money and just spend it on limo's, helicopters and dozens pairs of shoes; still most of these people are the first to complain when the goverment wants to increase tax for those rich folks. Why did God allow 9/11 to occur? Why do pedophiles and murderers get acquittal, even though evidency clearly shows they are guilty?

No, if I'd really need to believe in such a God, then I'd rather burn in hell as an ''evil'' humanist.

Then let that be your choice. Let doubt no longer gnaw at your soul and be as free as a bird. But late at night - when you wonder where that thing you think with goes when you die - remember that making something comforting up simply will not do. And Jesus is waiting and is as real now as He always was. And when that doubt becomes too much, the Bible will still be here as a perfect record of what God really is in spite of the platitudes of the false Christian so you can believe in Him properly.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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It's just can't believe in a God who wants millions of people to live in poverty. I can't accept that it's Gods will that kids born in slums have no hope on better life; while a lot of rich people don't even know what to do with all their money and just spend it on limo's, helicopters and dozens pairs of shoes; still most of these people are the first to complain when the goverment wants to increase tax for those rich folks. Why did God allow 9/11 to occur? Why do pedophiles and murderers get acquittal, even though evidency clearly shows they are guilty?

No, if I'd really need to believe in such a God, then I'd rather burn in hell as an ''evil'' humanist.

Who are you to question God's ways? The Holy Bible tells us that God is much, much smarter than any of us.

Isaiah 55:8-9: For my thoughts [are] not your thoughts, neither [are] your ways my ways, saith the LORD. For [as] the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

[I hate myself]

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hey there . im an atheist to. trust me this forum is under dictatorship. pretty much you cant say what you want on this forum without a bunch of people saying shit to you about it. if you have an skype we can talk on their if you wish