[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Christian in need of guidance

Stop making excuses for knowing nothing about God and get with the program.

The Bible is not some sort of stumbling block - it's the way to the Truth(R) about God and just how much He really is worthy of worship. There's no substitute for actually finding out just how much God's wisdom is as relevant and right today as it ever was.

[Bret Henderson]

Re: Christian in need of guidance

What? If you can't understand God's word it is only because He wants it that way. God could very easily have written the Bible so that everyone could understand. There are some people that God wants to misunderstand Him, so that they will burn in Hell. I feel so sorry for you.

God created men equal for a reason. So that none can stand between man and God. The Lord said ask and you will receive. I am receiving the love of God. My understanding of his word is still limited. unlike many i have not been reading the Bible my whole life. I am a born again Christian.

Stop making excuses for knowing nothing about God and get with the program.

The Bible is not some sort of stumbling block - it's the way to the Truth® about God and just how much He really is worthy of worship. There's no substitute for actually finding out just how much God's wisdom is as relevant and right today as it ever was.

I am not making excuses, I am giving an explanation. Because of the short period i have been reading the bible, i have the understanding of it likened to a teenager. Just like a teenager i require guidance in difficult situations.

All i am asking is for somebody to reference me to verses that will help me solve my problem. I am asking because the problem is pressing and can not wait for me to find it for myself.

If you are not willing to assist a fellow Christian with a serious theological problem, just say so and i will look else where.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: Christian in need of guidance

God created men equal for a reason. So that none can stand between man and God. The Lord said ask and you will receive. I am receiving the love of God. My understanding of his word is still limited. unlike many i have not been reading the Bible my whole life. I am a born again Christian.

Your perception of God is a very negative one. I think of God as a father who only sends people to Hell if they deserve it, such as for failing to believe in Him on zero evidence. You, on the other hand, seem to think God made the Bible deliberately esoteric so that well meaning people could be cast into the blazing furnace for all eternity despite years of devoted study and application. Is this an accurate understanding of your view?

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: Christian in need of guidance

1 Corinthians

Of course it does not take 5 years to read the Bible. It can be read in a couple of days. However it takes a long time to take in and comprehend. the word of God is complex, and only a fool would suggest he understands the wishes of God after skimming through the Bible. In fact a true Christian never finishes studying the Bible, it is a life long quest. So seeing as i have only been studying for 5 years my understanding of Gods will is limited.

I study the bible at my alter, so my computer does not suffice. its not like i cant read the Bible i have. Its just i have not studied it enough yet to be able to easily reference verses that can help me.

If you are able to reference me to Bible verses that may assist me with the problems i am having with my wife it would be much appreciated.

I don't know about that. The remarkable thing about the Bible is that is is very easy to understand

For example what God says that queers should be kill in Leviticus 20:13 that is exactly what He means.

Simple.

YIC

[Bret Henderson]

Re: Christian in need of guidance

Your perception of God is a very negative one. I think of God as a father who only sends people to Hell if they deserve it, such as for failing to believe in Him on zero evidence. You, on the other hand, seem to think God made the Bible deliberately esoteric so that well meaning people could be cast into the blazing furnace for all eternity despite years of devoted study and application. Is this an accurate understanding of your view?

How on Gods earth do you see a negative perception of God in what i said in that post. No I do to not think that, on the other hand you seem to think it is possible to read through the bible once and immediately understand everything there in.

I don't know about that. The remarkable thing about the Bible is that is is very easy to understand

For example what God says that queers should be kill in Leviticus 20:13 that is exactly what He means.

Simple.

YIC

yea it does say that. It also tells us we dont have the right to judge. Jesus also teaches us to forgive. we also have to follow the rule of man.

So if the bible tells me i can discipline my wife with violence, the rule of man tells me i can not, and at the same time Jesus tells me to forgive, and to show mercy. Do you see my dilemma yet?

all you people seem to be capable of is making a new member feel totally unwelcome. you can provide links to all kinds of bible verses to support your negative replies, but can not find in yourself to simply give me a little assistance with my problem.

Praying to God for somebody with common sense to see and reply to this thread.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Christian in need of guidance

Welcome Bret. I have read all your posts and quite frankly, I have seen nothing but the generous Christian Love extended to you only to be returned with sarcastic remarks, even to a Pastor! I think you might need a few days quiet time in your prayer closet to reflect on your behavior. A reminder, when the whole world appears to be out to get you, perhaps it is not them but you. Think about it.
Regarding your wife (I am a bit of an expert on them), as her husband you swore and oath to God to ensure you have a Christian home. Put God in to your wife. Explain to her about Heaven and Hell. Use visual aids if she is daft, things like a blow torch or a red hot poker followed by a nibble of cheese. You must be strong willed, both of mind and of hand if she is going to have any value. Be aware, she is raising your children. If she fails to show them the Love of God, expect little heathens running amok.
I'll pray for you to have the strength to carry out Gods Will.

[Bret Henderson]

Re: Christian in need of guidance

James i have been reading through these forums and i got to say, it is shocking to say the least. I feel very sorry for people like you. You have all obviously been lead astray by satan. I know you cant see it. the devil is very tricky. You are all heading through the wide gate. You are all talking the easy path which leads straight to hell. (THATS RIGHT THE EASY PATH) None of you have single clue what generous Christian love is.

I pray that the Lord vanquishes your most unholy church, and that you people discover the true light and love of Christ our Lord and Savior.

I would not take theological advice from and member that has replied to this thread. Sorry for wasting everyone's time.

Have fun hating as it leads you down the easy path.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Christian in need of guidance

James i have been reading through these forums and i got to say, it is shocking to say the least. I feel very sorry for people like you. You have all obviously been lead astray by satan. I know you cant see it. the devil is very tricky. You are all heading through the wide gate. You are all talking the easy path which leads straight to hell. (THATS RIGHT THE EASY PATH) None of you have single clue what generous Christian love is.

I pray that the Lord vanquishes your most unholy church, and that you people discover the true light and love of Christ our Lord and Savior.

I would not take theological advice from and member that has replied to this thread. Sorry for wasting everyone's time.

Have fun hating as it leads you down the easy path.

Terrorist threats on an open internets forum?



If you can find a single instance where a True Christian(tm) on this website has either (a) misquoted Scripture, or (b) interpreted the sweet, sweet words of Our Lord Jesus Christ in any way (using phrases like "what that REALLY means" or similar), I will gladly donate $1,000 to the fluffy-bunny cherry-picking "church" of your choice.

You have two hours.

Please note: quoting the Bible word-for-word is NOT interpreting it.

Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

[Bret Henderson]

Re: Christian in need of guidance

Terrorist threats on an open internets forum?



If you can find a single instance where a True Christian™ on this website has either (a) misquoted Scripture, or (b) interpreted the sweet, sweet words of Our Lord Jesus Christ in any way (using phrases like "what that REALLY means" or similar), I will gladly donate $1,000 to the fluffy-bunny cherry-picking "church" of your choice.

You have two hours.

Please note: quoting the Bible word-for-word is NOT interpreting it.

Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

I would not take money from the likes of you. keep it and put it towards a ticket out of brainwash town. I do not belong to any church. there is no church i would give money to. Jesus had no need for money, so neither should his church.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Christian in need of guidance

I would not take money from the likes of you. keep it and put it towards a ticket out of brainwash town. I do not belong to any church. there is no church i would give money to. Jesus had no need for money, so neither should his church.

Ah, I knew the hatred of Jesus would come out eventually.



Go back to your master Satan, maggot.

(John 8:44) "Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."

Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

[Jack O'fagan]

Re: Christian in need of guidance

God created men equal for a reason.

If we are all equal then why does God put a different monetary value on us all?

Leviticus 27:27 And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying, 2 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When a man shall make a singular vow, the persons shall be for the Lord by thy estimation.
3 And thy estimation shall be of the male from twenty years old even unto sixty years old, even thy estimation shall be fifty shekels of silver, after the shekel of the sanctuary.
4 And if it be a female, then thy estimation shall be thirty shekels.
5 And if it be from five years old even unto twenty years old, then thy estimation shall be of the male twenty shekels, and for the female ten shekels.
6 And if it be from a month old even unto five years old, then thy estimation shall be of the male five shekels of silver, and for the female thy estimation shall be three shekels of silver.
7 And if it be from sixty years old and above; if it be a male, then thy estimation shall be fifteen shekels, and for the female ten shekels.

Have fun hating as it leads you down the easy path.

Luke 14:26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

You and Jesus have almost opposite views on salvation. Why do you think Jesus got it so wrong?

YIC

Jack

[Bret Henderson]

Re: Christian in need of guidance

I am affraid it is you that is being ruled by satan, and you are blind to it. It is most likely not your fault though. I bet you were born and raised like this. Children are shaped by their parents Godless or otherwise.

It is not too late. leave it all behind and discover the true love of Christ.

It is easy to take every word in bible literally. It is easy to be intolerant, unforgiving and racist.

It is difficult to decipher the word of God because it was written by man, and all men are sinners. It is difficult to be tolerant, forgiving and merciful.

[Bret Henderson]

Re: Christian in need of guidance

If we are all equal then why does God put a different monetary value on us all?

Leviticus 27:27 And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying, 2 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When a man shall make a singular vow, the persons shall be for the Lord by thy estimation.
3 And thy estimation shall be of the male from twenty years old even unto sixty years old, even thy estimation shall be fifty shekels of silver, after the shekel of the sanctuary.
4 And if it be a female, then thy estimation shall be thirty shekels.
5 And if it be from five years old even unto twenty years old, then thy estimation shall be of the male twenty shekels, and for the female ten shekels.
6 And if it be from a month old even unto five years old, then thy estimation shall be of the male five shekels of silver, and for the female thy estimation shall be three shekels of silver.
7 And if it be from sixty years old and above; if it be a male, then thy estimation shall be fifteen shekels, and for the female ten shekels.



Luke 14:26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

You and Jesus have almost opposite views on salvation. Why do you think Jesus got it so wrong?

YIC

Jack

Leviticus 27:27 And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying, 2 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them

This refers to joos, I am not a joo.

I choose to honor my Father, you can hate yours if you like.

[Jack O'fagan]

Re: Christian in need of guidance

It is easy to take every word in bible literally.

So what process do you use for for judging which bits are literal and which are not?

Let me guess,

'Do I like this bit I'm reading?

No. Then it's not literal.

Yes. Then it's literal. '


If this isn't the process you use can you please tell me how you do it?

Also how stupid do you think God is if He lets a book survive which is full of bits that can be interpreted wrongly? I can only assume the god you have made up in your head is some kind of stupid, powerless drooling retard. Is your god worth worshiping?

YIC

Jack

[Jack O'fagan]

Re: Christian in need of guidance

Leviticus 27:27 And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying, 2 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them

This refers to joos, I am not a joo.

No it refers to the value that God puts on people. He could have been talking to a bunch of eskimos it doesn't alter the fact that He values people differently.

By the way, the 10 commandments were for the jews. Have you ripped them out of your Bible since they don't apply to you?

YIC

Jack