[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Why Am I Catholic

Hello James, I think that the treatment one gets on this site, if we are not one of you, is most unChristian. It calls to mind the hard heartedness that Jesus found in the Pharisees. Name calling and denigration abound. The real love of Jesus, the humility that Jesus taught may be here but I have not found it, I am sorry to say.

When have we called you Catholics a "generation of vipers"? That's what Jesus called the Pharisees, Sadduccees, and others. Repeatedly. (Matthew 3:7, Matthew 12:34, Matthew 23:33, Luke 3:7)

When did we call you Catholics "dogs"? That's what Jesus called the Canaanite woman. (Matthew 15:22-28)

When did we attack you with physical violence and destroy your belongings for doing your legally-permitted job trading currencies in a location the operators of the real estate in question chose as appropriate? (Mark 11:15)

If you would like us to be more Christ-like, we could certainly call Catholics dogs and vipers. You are the Pharisees of the modern day.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Why Am I Catholic

[Faithful Catholic]

Re: Why Am I Catholic

George, does not God tell us to be strong in our convictions? Does He not want us to guide the lost to Him?

If a person is not a Christian, what are they?

What exactly do you mean by this comment?
Are you attempting to be snide and insult us? Think about it.

Hi Jim, I absolutely agreed that people should have strong convictions about their faith and act on them. Don't need any more Laodiceans. And, yes we should guide the lost to Him. But, as AveMaria has pointed out so well, you do that by love and not with contempt.
The "real Christians" comment was in reply to your note about "true Christians". Since I don't feel any love I don't sense any "true Christian" here. And if what I see here is true Christianity, count me out.
In Christ, George

[Brother Harold Porter]

Re: Why Am I Catholic

The "real Christians" comment was in reply to your note about "true Christians". Since I don't feel any love I don't sense any "true Christian" here. And if what I see here is true Christianity, count me out.
In Christ, George

My friend, we are simple people that merely follow every word that God has given us to live by. Is this not the epitome of True Christianity™?

Now tell us what makes you so fearful of coming to your knees in front of Jesus in the same humble fashion.

In Christ

[Faith_Machine]

Re: Why Am I Catholic

Hi Jim, I absolutely agreed that people should have strong convictions about their faith and act on them.

But what if their faith is wrong?

According to your logic, if I'm getting ready to jump out of an airplane, and I have a strong conviction about my faith that my parachute has been properly packed, I should just go ahead and jump, even if the guy who packed my parachute for me was on drugs and didn't know what he was doing.

Never mind the fact that I'm now plummeting toward my doom at a terminal velocity of 120 MPH; according to you, I have performed an act of great virtue.

[Seventy]

Re: Why Am I Catholic

Because as True Christians™, we follow it just as it was written and God intended.

If this is the case,why don't you stone disobedient children? Or these other laws.

A woman's head should be covered in church.

Corinthians 11:6:
So if a woman does not cover her head, she should cut off her hair.

A woman should not speak in church.

I Corinthians 14:34-35:
Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church

You should not own anything.

Matthew 6:19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal.

You should do no planning.

Matthew 6:25-26 Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?
Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they?

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Why Am I Catholic

If this is the case,why don't you stone disobedient children? Or these other laws.

A woman's head should be covered in church.

A woman should not speak in church.

Strawman. As you well know, we are bound by secular law (1 Peter 2:13-15).

You should not own anything.

You should do no planning.

Please don't confuse owning essentials with having treasures.

Please don't confuse prudent planning with trying to second-guess God.

YiC,

Zech

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Why Am I Catholic

If this is the case,why don't you stone disobedient children? Or these other laws.

A woman's head should be covered in church.



A woman should not speak in church.


You should not own anything.


You should do no planning.

Changes in the law will permit, in fact mandate, that we do all those things. This is why we need Christian politicians. Make no mistake, we would if the laws permitted.

[Faithful Catholic]

Re: Why Am I Catholic

My friend, we are simple people that merely follow every word that God has given us to live by. Is this not the epitome of True Christianity™?

Now tell us what makes you so fearful of coming to your knees in front of Jesus in the same humble fashion.

In Christ

In the same humble fashion??? Are you kidding? The fashion here is arrogance and personal offense. Even pagans know that you attract more bees with honey than with vinegar. If Christianity followed your example it would have died out in the first century. Jesus offers the example of love. You offend people and call them names...not exactly the example of Scripture.
In Christ, George

[Redeemed Papist]

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In the same humble fashion??? Are you kidding? The fashion here is arrogance and personal offense. Even pagans know that you attract more bees with honey than with vinegar. If Christianity followed your example it would have died out in the first century. Jesus offers the example of love. You offend people and call them names...not exactly the example of Scripture.
In Christ, George

Are you seriously suggesting that Jesus didn't tell it as it is?

Matthew 7:13–14,21–23
7:13Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Jesus told those sinners exactly what to expect and didn't care if they wanted to be His friend. Why are you so bothered about if people like you as a friend when Jesus was braver than you about telling the Truth.

[John Creeser]

Re: Why Am I Catholic

In the same humble fashion??? Are you kidding? The fashion here is arrogance and personal offense. Even pagans know that you attract more bees with honey than with vinegar. If Christianity followed your example it would have died out in the first century. Jesus offers the example of love. You offend people and call them names...not exactly the example of Scripture.
In Christ, George

For the love of.....look, It's called tough love friend!

Honestly, we don't want to see those who claim to be a Christian burn in hell. I mean you are professing a desire to follow the teachings of Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior (It's not like you are here screaming hail allah or some other false religious fodder).

We *WANT* you to get to heaven, but you have refused time and time again to renounce your false catholic ways. If we have to verbally smack you around a bit to "get it", so be it.

Not everyone is going to heaven, well ok, most are not going to heaven:

Matthew 22:14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

Why do you choose the losing team?

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Why Am I Catholic

In the same humble fashion??? Are you kidding? The fashion here is arrogance and personal offense. Even pagans know that you attract more bees with honey than with vinegar. If Christianity followed your example it would have died out in the first century. Jesus offers the example of love. You offend people and call them names...not exactly the example of Scripture.
In Christ, George

The LORD Jesus Christ told us,

Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.
Matthew 10:16

I think you are simply confused. We believe and follow the Holy Bible down to the very letter and make no apologies for doing so. This world is full of false prophets, wolves in sheep's clothing, we must remain on our guard against heresy and false teachings. That's not arrogance, friend, that's confidence in the LORD, for His faithfulness endures forever.

[Faithful Catholic]

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But what if their faith is wrong?

According to your logic, if I'm getting ready to jump out of an airplane, and I have a strong conviction about my faith that my parachute has been properly packed, I should just go ahead and jump, even if the guy who packed my parachute for me was on drugs and didn't know what he was doing.

Never mind the fact that I'm now plummeting toward my doom at a terminal velocity of 120 MPH; according to you, I have performed an act of great virtue.

First, I think it was Jim who first made that point so you can ask him as well. Second, good point. How would you know that your faith was wrong? And then, does God read hearts or does he take an inventory of your church affiliation?
In Christ, George

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Why Am I Catholic

First, I think it was Jim who first made that point so you can ask him as well. Second, good point. How would you know that your faith was wrong? And then, does God read hearts or does he take an inventory of your church affiliation?
In Christ, George

Read the Bible. Seriously, why do you doubt God?

[James Hutchins]

Re: Why Am I Catholic

Hi Jim, I absolutely agreed that people should have strong convictions about their faith and act on them. Don't need any more Laodiceans. And, yes we should guide the lost to Him. But, as AveMaria has pointed out so well, you do that by love and not with contempt.
The "real Christians" comment was in reply to your note about "true Christians". Since I don't feel any love I don't sense any "true Christian" here. And if what I see here is true Christianity, count me out.
In Christ, George

George, I sense you are the kind of person who avoids the distasteful. I bet Brussels Sprouts are not your strong suit.
Isn't Love also part of devotion? Do you have any idea how much effort is expelled in trying to open the eyes of the lost? How so many give so much in the hopes of Saving one soul? Are you trying to tell me that no True Christian(tm) puts out any effort?
George, we could coddle people, tell them no matter what they do, what they believe, they are going to Heaven where everyone gets a prize. Is that Love? I do not think so
George, we are honest, simple folk. We call a spade a spade. We read the Bible. We know it is the Word of God. We know He created us. We know because of that, we are in no position to think we know better than Him. So we follow the Bible. That is what True Believers(c) do. We do not change it to suit us. That is the Love of Jesus.
Just like you do not pour chocolate sauce on Brussels Sprouts. We follow Gods Word unadulterated. No matter if we like it or not. We can pray to God to have the Bible changed. If He sees fit, He will do so.
So George, if you know something about a passage I missed in the Bible that tells us to let the Unsaved go to Hell and not to try our best to Save them, I'd like to read it.
In closing, if you do not like Gods rules, then maybe you are not a Christian. Most people are not. Most are doomed to spend eternity in Hell. They do not have to. We will help guide them to spiritual Salvation(r).
YIC
JH