[Pim Pendergast]

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The vedas speak of the all creator writing them down and passing it down to the sage, who then passed it on.
So basically, it is the same
According to the Puranas (more like mythical text books if you don't know what they are) The vedas were written by the All creator himself. as well. So aside from Vedas themselves, Puranas also testify that vedas are written by God himself.
So it is more like having Bible supporting itself, and one more book backing it's claim up.
To make things even more interesting, the vedas support correctness of puranas, and vice versa.
Bhagwad Gita, on the other hand was written down by Lord Ganesha, along with the greatest sage vyas's book: Mahabharata.
I'd like you to note that almost all of these is about 1000 year before christ was Born.

That's not proof. Anyone could write a book and claim it was divinely inspired. And anyone could have altered those writings at any time so that they would appear agree with each other. If they were written so long ago, how do you know the texts haven't been corrupted? Also, where is the scientific proof to support the claims of your scriptures? Where's the proof that your god exists? Your religion and your scriptures make some pretty wild claims. You would need to provide overwhelming evidence to convince someone.

[The_Reasoner]

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Of course it's wrong. The Bible tells us so. Are you being deliberately dense? I don't accept both are true. Your religion is a pack of lies. It's you who is trying to say both are true and that you worship our God.

Jesus came to give us the good news that we could be saved from our sinfulness from birth by accepting Him and worshipping Him. He died for us to make his point. What did your gay monkey god do for you apart from flinging poo?

Got news.
If you are saying that both are not true, you have to accept that the original records were right. Not the ones you like.

[Adam Fag]

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So basically you accept that form of Gods with human appearance are acceptable, right? (yes/no)

I did not say "gods" at all. I said IMAGES (statues or paintings).
No you can't make (carve or paint) an IMAGE of a man BECAUSE that's BANNED (Ex. 20) >> any image of any thing on the earth below. Men live on the earth below.

This in no way concerns the nature of God.
It only concerns the nature of IMAGES.

(And regardless of whether a particular IMAGE should be made in the first place, none of them are to bowed at.)

[The_Reasoner]

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That's not proof. Anyone could write a book and claim it was divinely inspired. And anyone could have altered those writings at any time so that they would appear agree with each other. If they were written so long ago, how do you know the texts haven't been corrupted? Also, where is the scientific proof to support the claims of your scriptures? Where's the proof that your god exists?

So, in the same way, anyone could have altered Bible and said that it was written by God, right? Btw, out of curiocity, weren't some of you guys claiming that God hates science?

One thing though:
Bible was written by God because it says so in it. This doesn't need proof.
Vedas were written by God because it says so in it. This needs proof.
Why? Because you have been believing the first one is true? or something else?

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Introduction

Got news.
If you are saying that both are not true, you have to accept that the original records were right. Not the ones you like.

I don't accept any of your silly dot head records are more than the deluded ramblings of people high on some sort of mushroom or something. They are clearly the fables of ignorant savages too wrapped up in denying that cows are pre-burgers.

Nobody but you is saying that your vedas or whatever are true.

Meanwhile the Old Testament and the New Testament are a seamless record of the wishes and deeds of God, culminating in the coming of Jesus and the promise of His return, when He most definitely will be casting you into a lake of fire!

Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

You aren't even slightly interested in Christianity. You're here to say your religion is better than ours and point out where you think we are mistaken and should follow your big gay monkey god. So cut the crap and admit that you hate Jesus!

[The_Reasoner]

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I did not say "gods" at all. I said IMAGES (statues or paintings).
No you can't make (carve or paint) an IMAGE of a man BECAUSE that's BANNED (Ex. 20) >> any image of any thing on the earth below. Men live on the earth below.

This in no way concerns the nature of God.
It only concerns the nature of IMAGES.

(And regardless of whether a particular IMAGE should be made in the first place, none of them are to bowed at.)

Ah, ok. So, here's the story: A God appears (similar form to human) and tells people that 'worshipping image of this form is Good'. So people can worship it. Sounds correct?
Now the same God tells people: 'this unearthly looking being is my form as well. It's good to worship it's image as well' People worship the image. Sounds good?

[The_Reasoner]

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[QUOTE=Redeemed Papist;974951]I don't accept any of your silly dot head records are more than the deluded ramblings of people high on some sort of mushroom or something. They are clearly the fables of ignorant savages too wrapped up in denying that cows are pre-burgers.

Nobody but you is saying that your vedas or whatever are true.

Meanwhile the Old Testament and the New Testament are a seamless record of the wishes and deeds of God, culminating in the coming of Jesus and the promise of His return, when He most definitely will be casting you into a lake of fire!
[INDENT]Revelation 21:8 [COLOR="DarkRed"]But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part


Well, I can say the same to you. Finally, you are choosing what you want to. It is nothing more than your personal opinion. You are saying that our records are false, even if they are older, just because you think you are right. It does not change the fact that Vedas were written early, and Bible came later.
In simple words, your stand is: "Even though your records are original, I think you are not trustworthy, and hence I will continue to believe that ours are true" As I said some comment before, it is just the stand of one immature, stuck up person who doesn't know how to discuss in civil manner and must continue to use insults to distract from miserably failing arguement.
Enjoy yourself. Believe what you want but it doesn't change anything at all.

[Redeemed Papist]

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Well, I can say the same to you. Finally, you are choosing what you want to. It is nothing more than your personal opinion. You are saying that our records are false, even if they are older, just because you think you are right. It does not change the fact that Vedas were written early, and Bible came later.
In simple words, your stand is: "Even though your records are original, I think you are not trustworthy, and hence I will continue to believe that ours are true" As I said some comment before, it is just the stand of one immature, stuck up person who doesn't know how to discuss in civil manner and must continue to use insults to distract from miserably failing arguement.
Enjoy yourself. Believe what you want but it doesn't change anything at all.

Not at all. I'm letting the Lord my God, creator of the earth and firmament choose for me. He quite clearly says to me not to listen to you because you are telling me heathen lies and to reject you utterly. He tells me you and all your unbelieving liars will burn forever in Hell while I go to sit beside Jesus in Heaven and laugh as we hear your screams.

I'm certainly not going to suddenly reject Him because some rude person who says He is a big gay monkey tries to make the Bible out to be unreliable.

So are you done now? Have you had your fill of being told in no uncertain terms that you believe in falsehoods and that your lies will find no listening ear here, or do you want another round of, "My big gay monkey god is equally valid to your one True God and not animistic far fetched ancient fables of savages?"

Psalm 2:1-5

1Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?
2The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying,
3Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.
4He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.
5Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.

[The_Reasoner]

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Not at all. I'm letting the Lord my God, creator of the earth and firmament choose for me. He quite clearly says to me not to listen to you because you are telling me heathen lies and to reject you utterly. He tells me you and all your unbelieving liars will burn forever in Hell while I go to sit beside Jesus in Heaven and laugh as we hear your screams.

I'm certainly not going to suddenly reject Him because some rude person who says He is a big gay monkey tries to make the Bible out to be unreliable.

So are you done now? Have you had your fill of being told in no uncertain terms that you believe in falsehoods and that your lies will find no listening ear here, or do you want another round of, "My big gay monkey god is equally valid to your one True God and not animistic far fetched ancient fables of savages?"

Psalm 2:1-5

1Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?
2The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying,
3Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.
4He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.
5Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.

And he's telling me that you're just a Troll who is going to continue deny things whatever they are. That's what it gets down to. 'I'm certainly not going to suddenly reject Him'. You've been believing in it since a while, and you're not going to back off no matter how logical it is.
Want one last fun fact?
Your (I will not say Christian, I refuse to believe you are anything but an obsessed extremist) God says only his path is right..
Hindu religion God (if you must differ) says, all religions can stay on as long they are not wrong in principles. He says many religions can co exist in this world.
And guess what's happening? Many religions are existing right now.
Think over it. and have fun

[Redeemed Papist]

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And he's telling me that you're just a Troll who is going to continue deny things whatever they are. That's what it gets down to. 'I'm certainly not going to suddenly reject Him'. You've been believing in it since a while, and you're not going to back off no matter how logical it is.
Want one last fun fact?
Your (I will not say Christian, I refuse to believe you are anything but an obsessed extremist) God says only his path is right..
Hindu religion God (if you must differ) says, all religions can stay on as long they are not wrong in principles. He says many religions can co exist in this world.
And guess what's happening? Many religions are existing right now.
Think over it. and have fun

On what evidence do you say I'm not a Christian? Where am I not following the Bible?

What you mean is that I don't live up to what you imagine a Christian to be. Well boo hoo! I shattered your dreams with my honesty. You started this thread saying you had no idea what Christianity is, but clearly you had a prejudiced notion and have come here full of judgemental intentions.

Go and look elsewhere on the web and you'll find loads of people all making God up as they go along and you'll see they all say something different. We just say it as it is in the Bible. Why do you think they all say different things? Because the God they believe in is a fiction of their own imagination, loosely based on scripture, just like your version of hinduism (if you're not just some atheist god mocking troll pretending to be a hindu - I mean who can tell?) differs from those who believe in karma and reincarnation and all that nonsense.

One day you'll realise that we are right and you are wrong. And it will be mighty hot and will last forever.

P.S. Good luck co-existing with the Muslims


I'll pray for you!

[Pastor Ed Lowman]

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I am a Hindu, sir. I believe in God

Worshipping blue drawings of elephants will not save your soul, nor will praying to transsexual deities who would have us pay homage to rats while dotting the forehead and wearing nothing but wrapped sheets. Your religion is perverted, not to mention wrong.

[The_Reasoner]

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On what evidence do you say I'm not a Christian? Where am I not following the Bible?

What you mean is that I don't live up to what you imagine a Christian to be. Well boo hoo! I shattered your dreams with my honesty. You started this thread saying you had no idea what Christianity is, but clearly you had a prejudiced notion and have come here full of judgemental intentions.

Go and look elsewhere on the web and you'll find loads of people all making God up as they go along and you'll see they all say something different. We just say it as it is in the Bible. Why do you think they all say different things? Because the God they believe in is a fiction of their own imagination, loosely based on scripture, just like your version of hinduism (if you're not just some atheist god mocking troll pretending to be a hindu - I mean who can tell?) differs from those who believe in karma and reincarnation and all that nonsense.

One day you'll realise that we are right and you are wrong. And it will be mighty hot and will last forever.

P.S. Good luck co-existing with the Muslims


I'll pray for you!

Yup, you're nothing like one would think of followers of Christ can be. Rude, Disrespectful, stubborn.. You haven't shattered anything. I don't dream about trolls anyway. You have just appalled me by showing what Galileo must have felt. Well, I'm glad I'm not christian if this is what Bible teaches you to be like. That's what I said I don't believe. There is a difference between taking birth in a religion and becoming one of that religion. And you know what, you are one of those people who are twisting God according to their own imagination. And about the day, keep on waiting, preferably stay peacefu till it comes. (Hint: it'll not come)
P.S.? It's not the Muslims or Christians, it's the Jihadis and crusaders we are to handle. Don't worry. We don't need *your* Good luck for that.
I'm done talking to you. I'll be checking if there's someone respectable whom I can talk to about my original reason to be here, try not to jump in..

-The_Reasoner

[Redeemed Papist]

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Where am I not following the Bible? Where else ought I to find out about Jesus or what God wants?

2 Corinthians 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

Pro tip: You don't get to tell us not to post in our own place, Unsaved Trash.

[Mary Etheldreda]

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I've never given Karma a specific thought till now. Some people believe in karma, some don't. But I believe one thing which has been told. "Do your work right, for the sake of doing it as it should be done, not for the sake of any materialistic benefit it will bring you" That means, you shouldn't do something good because it will stack up good karma and help you in future. You should do it because it is meant to be done in the correct way.

Son, now you sound like one of those liberal atheists who cry on about eternal rewards and punishments being immoral, and just to do good for the sake of doing good. If you follow this silly philosophy, why are you even hindu?

Now, I've tried my best till now to follow this, and I can say without doubt that my conscious is clear.

Of course your conscience is clear, you haven't looked into the actual beliefs of your silly religion.

The wash, as you call it, is meant for washing away the sins you may have committed unconsciously, or minor ones which you forgot. You go in the river, feel the water rushing about you, and pray your sins to be washed away by the flow.

That's the goofiest thing I've ever heard! Water can't wash away sins like it washes away crumbs!

If I were to speak in psychiatric way, it works on the mind on the same way a confession does. Clearing away any little guilt you had about the crimes you may have forgotten. If you try any one of the two, sir, I can assure you that you will feel similar calming, energizing effect.

Then why bother bowing to elephant gods at all?

[James Hutchins]

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Friend, this is a Christian web site, created for the Praise of Jesus. It is not a place for people to worship cows and practice hindoo doo.
You know what God thinks about false idol,worship? (Here is a hint)
2nd Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

2 Peter 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

Habakkuk 2:2 And the LORD answered me, and said, Write the vision, and make it plain upon tables, that he may run that readeth it.
(God told the prophet what to write.)

Jeremiah 36:2 Take thee a roll of a book, and write therein all the words that I have spoken unto thee against Israel, and against Judah, and against all the nations, from the day I spake unto thee, from the days of Josiah, even unto this day.
(God told the prophet what to write.)

John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.


This is critical:
I Timothy 2:5-6: For [there is] one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.


No where in the Holy Bible is there any whiny talking of cows, elephants, whores with multiple arms or cheap brass trinkets. Honestly, how you make this stuff up and expect anyone to beleive it is beyond me!