[Looney Jack]

Re: Why the GOP Lost the Presidency... oh, and hello.

I would advised you not to be such a crybaby if you want to be taken seriously. Why do you hate God? If you hate God so much why come to a Christian forum? We don't go to your gay forums looking for Christians so why do you come here looking for gay sex?

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Considering it is you "True Christians" toying with my avatar, sending me whinny messages with frivolous infractions and taking offense at every turn. I've seen tadpoles with thicker skin.

Fag marriage is a sham to rip off the American taxpayer for benefits as a legally recognized "spouse".

As I see it married couples of any gender dynamic receive hospital and prison visitation rights, authority on medical decisions, shared medical benefits, inheritance rights, the ability to create life insurance trusts, file joint tax returns, get insurance discounts and retirement benefits to name a few. These benefits are usually non-monetary, paid by the couple or the private companies they've worked for.

Could you please elaborate on how exactly what benefits married couples regardless of gender dynamics get that are funded by the taxpayers (who may include said couple)?

Gay marriage is not the reason the GOP lost the presidency.

Agreed. However, that's not what I said. Homosexual marriage is just one part of a whole when it comes to the GOP's position on social issues.

As I said:

I would like to discuss one such topic: Gay marriage.

I suspect they did lose votes from moderates who value equal rights and find the opposition to gay rights fundamentally unconstitutional.

Basing the civil rights of individuals on a popular vote would be considered unthinkable if we were voting on the legality of interracial marriage. We might as well vote as to rather peanut butter and jelly can legally be eaten at the same time or rather or not it is legal to place onions on a cheeseburger. All of which are matters of personal preference that are ultimately inconsequential to the opposing voters. I.e. it's none of their business if a gay couple wants to be married or if a straight couple likes peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Why the GOP Lost the Presidency... oh, and hello.

Basing the civil rights of individuals on a popular vote would be considered unthinkable if we were voting on the legality of interracial marriage. We might as well vote as to rather peanut butter and jelly can legally be eaten at the same time or rather or not it is legal to place onions on a cheeseburger. All of which are matters of personal preference that are ultimately inconsequential to the opposing voters. I.e. it's none of their business if a gay couple wants to be married or if a straight couple likes peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.

Well you've certainly got a point there. God hates race-mixing, and it does violate Biblical Law©. Show me a man who thinks race-mixing is not an abomination unto God, and I'll show you a man who hasn't read Ezra 9-10.

Ezra 10:3 Now therefore let us make a covenant with our God to put away all the wives, and such as are born of them, according to the counsel of my lord, and of those that tremble at the commandment of our God; and let it be done according to the law.

If you have a dark-skinned wife and a bunch of little half-breed mongrels running around, the way to get right with God is to just abandon them. That's Godly advice straight from the Bible. Your marriage doesn't count anyway and your children are bastards as far as God is concerned. Shout Glory!

[Looney Jack]

Re: Why the GOP Lost the Presidency... oh, and hello.

I can answer all of your questions in one concise sentence: Because God says so.

Lev.18:22
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Rather or not gays have the right to marriage they will continue to lie with their same sex partners. In opposing gay rights you have accomplished nothing in regards to that verse.

Lev.20:13
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Rather or not gays have the right to marriage under man's law it remains illegal to murder them. In opposing gay rights you have accomplished nothing in regards to that verse.

Rom.1:26-27
For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature. And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

This verse simple alludes to how your god supposedly made homosexuals the way they are intentionally. Which begs the question of why your god is so opposed to its own doings. Regardless, opposing gay rights remedies nothing from a biblical perspective.

Yes, I've seen those biblical verses before. But they don't explain political activism against gay rights on a political forum. Rather gays marriage is accepted under man's law has no bearing on your god's law. Opposing gay marriage will not end homosexuality. Gays will still have homosexual relations, they will still cohabitate and if your bible were correct they would still be judged by your god and punished. The only think I recall the Bible stating concerning your responsibility toward active homosexuals is to murder them, which no Christian is currently lobbying for. The Bible doesn't allow for a woman to file for a divorce outside of infidelity and yet there are no Christians lobbying to amend this. Kind of hypocritical, don't you think?

So we return to the original questions which remain unanswered.

1. What is the point of opposing gay rights?
2. What do you accomplish or gain by denying two consenting adults, who happen to be of the same gender, the right to be recognized as spouses under the law?
3. How does gay marriage threaten the institution of heterosexual marriage?
4. Do you have a problem with homosexuality as a psychological condition or is your issue with homosexual actions?

Now maybe you can tell us exactly what your issues are with God.

The same issues I have with Gandolf the White: None. Like Gandolf of the Lord of the Rings trilogy, I do not believe in the existence of the biblical god.

[WalkingWithChrist]

Re: Why the GOP Lost the Presidency... oh, and hello.

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Considering it is you "True Christians" toying with my avatar, sending me whinny messages with frivolous infractions and taking offense at every turn. I've seen tadpoles with thicker skin.


As I see it married couples of any gender dynamic receive hospital and prison visitation rights, authority on medical decisions, shared medical benefits, inheritance rights, the ability to create life insurance trusts, file joint tax returns, get insurance discounts and retirement benefits to name a few. These benefits are usually non-monetary, paid by the couple or the private companies they've worked for.

Could you please elaborate on how exactly what benefits married couples regardless of gender dynamics get that are funded by the taxpayers (who may include said couple)?


Agreed. However, that's not what I said. Homosexual marriage is just one part of a whole when it comes to the GOP's position on social issues.

As I said:
I suspect they did lose votes from moderates who value equal rights and find the opposition to gay rights fundamentally unconstitutional.

Basing the civil rights of individuals on a popular vote would be considered unthinkable if we were voting on the legality of interracial marriage. We might as well vote as to rather peanut butter and jelly can legally be eaten at the same time or rather or not it is legal to place onions on a cheeseburger. All of which are matters of personal preference that are ultimately inconsequential to the opposing voters. I.e. it's none of their business if a gay couple wants to be married or if a straight couple likes peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.

But being gay is wrong. It says so in the bible, and whatever the bible says is the truth. And Christians follow the truth.

Lev. 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."

Lev. 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them

1 Cor. 6:9-10, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God."

Rom. 1:26-28, "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper."

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Why the GOP Lost the Presidency... oh, and hello.

Look it's very simple Lone Jack, all we TRUE Christians want to do is be left alone without some nanny state trying to socialize us and practice our relgion as our God tells us to. Our God just happens to tell us to kill gays, witches, unbelievers and union members and take over over the country and impose His laws on it. How is that wrong?

The only reason people voted for Obama in such huge numbers is he is offering gay sex. And by the way, winning a national election by the numbers he did shows he has a lot of support among the bad Americans. This last election PROVES Americans want ass sex and are willing to spit in God's face to do it.

[Looney Jack]

Re: Why the GOP Lost the Presidency... oh, and hello.

But being gay is wrong. It says so in the bible, and whatever the bible says is the truth. And Christians follow the truth.

OK, you think it's wrong. I get that. I personally find it kind of gross. So what?

What does that have to do with opposing gay rights? Homosexuals will continue to be attracted to the same gender and indulge in homosexual activity regardless. The Bible also frowns upon clothing made of diverse fabrics. Where is the political opposition to the sale Levi's jeans?

[Brother Harold Porter]

Re: Why the GOP Lost the Presidency... oh, and hello.

Could you please elaborate on how exactly what benefits married couples regardless of gender dynamics get that are funded by the taxpayers (who may include said couple)?

Do you have any idea how many queers work for federal or state government?

Homeless fag A marries postal worker fag B. Fag B croaks from the AIDS and is righteously dispatched to Hell for an eternity of perpetual ass-rape by Satan himself. Fag A collects fag B's pension for life, blowing it on meth, poppers and motel rooms for anal sex orgies. That's my tax money.

In Christ

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Why the GOP Lost the Presidency... oh, and hello.

OK, you think it's wrong. I get that. I personally find it kind of gross. So what?

What does that have to do with opposing gay rights? Homosexuals will continue to be attracted to the same gender and indulge in homosexual activity regardless. The Bible also frowns upon clothing made of diverse fabrics. Where is the political opposition to the sale Levi's jeans?

When Jesus decides America has suffered enough from the Tribulation presidency and moves His Supreme Court to anoint a godly president there will be reckoning with sinners like the Levi jeans company.

[Looney Jack]

Re: Why the GOP Lost the Presidency... oh, and hello.

Look it's very simple Lone Jack, all we TRUE Christians want to do is be left alone without some nanny state trying to socialize us and practice our relgion as our God tells us to. Our God just happens to tell us to kill gays, witches, unbelievers and union members and take over over the country and impose His laws on it. How is that wrong?

What scripture states that Christians should take over the country?

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Why the GOP Lost the Presidency... oh, and hello.

What scripture states that Christians should take over the country?

Yes, you should read some of our stickies.

[Looney Jack]

Re: Why the GOP Lost the Presidency... oh, and hello.

Do you have any idea how many queers work for federal or state government?

Homeless fag A marries postal worker fag B. Fag B croaks from the AIDS and is righteously dispatched to Hell for an eternity of perpetual ass-rape by Satan himself. Fag A collects fag B's pension for life, blowing it on meth, poppers and motel rooms for anal sex orgies. That's my tax money.

In Christ

Are you aware of how many heterosexuals work for federal or state government?

A homeless man marries female postal worker. The woman dies from AIDS. The man collects woman's pension for life, blowing it on meth, poppers and motel rooms for sexuals orgies. That's supposedly your tax dollars.

I have another one for you.

A woman from Saudi Arabia marries an American man who she has known for 4 hours. The Saudi woman gets U.S. citizenship with relatively no hassle. Three weeks later the man dies after falling down some stairs. The woman collects man's pension for life, blowing it on fake IDs, flammable fertilizers, plane tickets and motel rooms for planning terrorist attacks. That's supposedly your tax dollars.

[Brother D. Thomas]

Re: Why the GOP Lost the Presidency... oh, and hello.

Lone Jackass,

1. What is the point of opposing gay rights?

With the ungodly humankind known as same sex ass bangers and slurpies, they have surrendered their natural state (the image in which they were created) to worship themselves rather than God. This behavior is against the purposes and intentions of our version of God in every way. When we accept Christianity, then we have to oppose homosexuals because we have a plethora of chapter and verse to back us up as seen within this thread!

Listen up and pay attention this time, the intention of our God was for sexual pleasure between a man and woman (in a monogamous marital relationship), also for reproductive purposes, duh. Gay marriages go against what our version of God intended and this is another reason why Christians are against gay marriages!

Our God's plan for marriage: "Then the LORD God made a woman from the rib he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man. The man said, 'This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called "woman," for she was taken out of man.' For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh." (Genesis 2:22-24 )

God DID NOT make man for man in this context, God made the woman for the man. Christians are against gay marriages because it brings defilement into marriage (Hebrews 13:4).

DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN ONE IS A CHRISTIAN, WE HAVE TO FOLLOW OUR GOD’S DOCTRINE IN THIS RESPECT?!


2. What do you accomplish or gain by denying two consenting adults, who happen to be of the same gender, the right to be recognized as spouses under the law?

We accomplish and gain solace in not having to visualize the ungodly act of two homo men having sex. We gain further solace in not visualizing two Slurpie women having sex. Denying is a part of this world and many are denied in many instances because of man made laws. The true Christian is under God’s law, therefore, we have to deny the homosexual act. Get it?


3. How does gay marriage threaten the institution of heterosexual marriage?

Being a true Christian, marriage is sacred, ordained by our version of God from before the foundation of the world. After creating Adam and Eve, AND NOT STEVE, our God pronounced them husband and wife, of which Adam said, “Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.” Get it?

Furthermore, Jesus Christ cited Adam’s declaration when He affirmed the divine origins of the marriage covenant: “Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, and said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh.”

It's how this ungodly act of homosexuality threatens the Christian's mind set and our biblical doctrine. Since our God created the whole world, then if it will effect us, then it will effect the world as a whole. Our God said so, therefore, it is true!


4. Do you have a problem with homosexuality as a psychological condition or is your issue with homosexual actions?

In your first year psyche class lame question above, you’re assuming as a premise, the conclusion in which you wish to reach. In other words, you’re begging the question with your false dichotomy. This tactic may work with your like minded inept friends, but not here at Landover Baptist. Understand? As proffered ad infinitum within this thread, we true Christians have many problems beyond, and including, your question above with the ungodly homosexual as biblically described.


This scenario all deduces to the simple fact of your lame ass kindergarten quote; “The same issues I have with Gandolf the White: None. Like Gandolf of the Lord of the Rings trilogy, I do not believe in the existence of the biblical god.”

Conclusion? We believe in our biblical God that we have to follow relative to His doctrine against fags, and you as a secular homosexual affectionado, don’t. Get it? It’s just that simple.

Lone Jackass, to save yourself any further embarrassment amongst the true Christian elite, why don’t you exit stage right? Thank you



The picture below is how our God intended marriage to look like, understand?

[Didymus Much]

Re: Why the GOP Lost the Presidency... oh, and hello.

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The picture below is how our God intended marriage to look like, understand?

Women are nuts? I'm not gonna touch that one...

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Why the GOP Lost the Presidency... oh, and hello.

I personally find it kind of gross.

So you hate homersexurals for personal reasons. You hate them because you are a bigot. I see.

We hate them simply because God commands it. Personally, I have nothing against a queer.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Why the GOP Lost the Presidency... oh, and hello.

You, along with others, failed to answer the questions presented.

Son, this is the Introductions Forum. This is where you introduce yourself, which you finally did. Thank you for that.

Your questions have been discussed on various threads throughout this forum, but I realize it's hard for some people to not get the attention they so desperately desire. You can ask these questions, and more, on our Straight 4 Jesus Forum. There you will find such helpful discussions in progress such as

The threat against Christians

The threat sodomy poses to our children

The rights Christians do have

What causes rectal and sodomite attraction

Things we can do to help those trapped in the gay lifestyle

Public policy that supports the rights of Americans

Other variables that contribute to homerism

Comprehensive list as to why Gay so-called "Marriage" is wrong

Straight answers to queer questions from a Biblical perspective

How to avoid being converted to the gay lifestyle:

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=75715

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=18794

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=32383

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=53674

1. What is the point of opposing gay rights?

The United States guarantees certain unalienable rights. We oppose anything that threatens those rights. The term "gay rights" is a misnomer, as has been pointed out to you. It is, in reality, naught but a violent and corrupt overthrow of decent society.

2. What do you accomplish or gain by denying two consenting adults, who happen to be of the same gender, the right to be recognized as spouses under the law?

Brainwashing a child into accepting the penile member of a strange man can hardly be considered "consenting." It's the protection of the systematic Stockholm Syndrome towards rectal humiliation that we oppose.

3. How does gay marriage threaten the institution of heterosexual marriage?

See above ("violent and corrupt overthrow of decent society").

4. Do you have a problem with homosexuality as a psychological condition or is your issue with homosexual actions?

My problem is with denying the LORD His due position qua Lord. Anything that seeks to oppose that will be met with opposition.