[Thinks Design]

Re: Merry Meet, Christians

What you don't understand is, that magic has never been ANYTHING different than what I explained. All those strange stories about witches riding broomsticks and whatsoever are stories of the church to scare the people and somehow, that image is stuck on witches.
But you know guys, I give up on trying to explain it to you. I got the feeling that you just do everything in your power to avoid understanding what I say, so I'd say, let's just stick to the point, that I have my way and you have yours, you won't understand what I say anyway.
Blessed Be.

What you have explained is that what you call magic is non functional I.e. it does not affect objective reality and that any use of what you lable magic is to affect ones feelings and emotional state.

How on earth is this different from what psychologists call Magical Thinking (a well research area of cognitive distortion)?

You may as well beleive in faeries at the bottom of the garden.

ThinksDesgn.

[Levi Jones]

Re: Merry Meet, Christians

Yes, he found that book on his own,

Okay, so why wicca? Why not Mormonism? Why don't you believe Joseph Smith when he says he found an ancient book that has the Real real testament of Jesus?

based on experiences with witches he met during his journey.

Yeah, considering there were zero wiccans prior to that, I would call it circular reasoning.

No, we are not sacrificing humans anymore.

Why not? If it's what your horned god requires, why don't you do it? Did Gardner (who did steal that do what thou will line from Lavey thanks POV) change the original worship?

How do you know you're not just making the horned god madder and madder by not doing what he says?

[Maike Lorenzen, nazi witch]

Re: Merry Meet, Christians

Well, the horned God is a merciful God and he isn't there to let us suffer but to give us peace after life. And I have never heard of it that the horned God needs human sacrifices. What for would he need that?

Why wicca? First of all, because my mum was a wicca as well and I just grew up with this. Secondly, because Wiccan religion is all about nature and the Goddess and the God can also be seen as the famous "Yin and Yang", a natural circle of life. The Goddess, who gives life, needs the death, just as the death needs life. It just sounds right to me and I feel very well just as I am.

And to biblesweathog: I could, if I wanted to. And why not? I'm a free human and I can decide for my own what I want to believe in. As long as I don't hurt or disturb anyone with my believes, what would be wrong with believing in fairies?

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Merry Meet, Christians

This witch wants us to believe in magic she says exists without a shred of evidence. Nothing but her say so and her sense of tradition. Am I getting this right? What sort of credulous fools does she think we are?

[Maike Lorenzen, nazi witch]

Re: Merry Meet, Christians

This witch wants us to believe in magic she says exists without a shred of evidence. Nothing but her say so and her sense of tradition. Am I getting this right? What sort of credulous fools does she think we are?

I am just explaining to you what I believe in and am not asking ANYONE to believe in the same thing. I offered many times to close this discussion, but you are asking over and over again. So what are you expecting?

[Levi Jones]

Re: Merry Meet, Christians

Well, the horned God is a merciful God and he isn't there to let us suffer but to give us peace after life. And I have never heard of it that the horned God needs human sacrifices. What for would he need that?

I have no idea. Ask the pre-Christian Romans. They are the ones who write about the extensive practice of human sacrifice among the druids.

Why wicca? First of all, because my mum was a wicca as well and I just grew up with this. Secondly, because Wiccan religion is all about nature

Actually, we have no idea what the original druids believed outside of human sacrifice. It was a mystery religion that left no written records.

So how on earth could you be doing it right?

It all points back to Gardner having made it all up.

"Yin and Yang",

Wrong religion, toots. The yin yang is Taoist.

It just sounds right to me and I feel very well just as I am.

Have you ever seriously questioned your beliefs and not blindly go with what "feels right to you?"

I'm a free human and I can decide for my own what I want to believe in. As long as I don't hurt or disturb anyone with my believes, what would be wrong with believing in fairies?

You are free to believe in them, but we are free to question why you believe in them.

[Maike Lorenzen, nazi witch]

Re: Merry Meet, Christians

I have no idea. Ask the pre-Christian Romans. They are the ones who write about the extensive practice of human sacrifice among the druids.




Actually, we have no idea what the original druids believed outside of human sacrifice. It was a mystery religion that left no written records.

So how on earth could you be doing it right?

It all points back to Gardner having made it all up.



Wrong religion, toots. The yin yang is Taoist.


Have you ever seriously questioned your beliefs and not blindly go with what "feels right to you?"



You are free to believe in them, but we are free to question why you believe in them.

Of course, yin and yang isn't part of my religion, but I said, you could compare it.

Yes, I have and I decided that I am going the right way. It works out quite well for me, but I just can't tell you much about it but that, because everything else belongs only into the coven and is secret to everyone else. Of course there are more things, but the only thing I can tell you is, that I am convinced that am doing the right thing. . Of course you are free to ask me about it, but it is my choice how much I want to answer of your questions.

[Thinks Design]

Re: Merry Meet, Christians

Well, the horned God is a merciful God and he isn't there to let us suffer but to give us peace after life. And I have never heard of it that the horned God needs human sacrifices. What for would he need that?

Why wicca? First of all, because my mum was a wicca as well and I just grew up with this. Secondly, because Wiccan religion is all about nature and the Goddess and the God can also be seen as the famous "Yin and Yang", a natural circle of life. The Goddess, who gives life, needs the death, just as the death needs life. It just sounds right to me and I feel very well just as I am.

And to biblesweathog: I could, if I wanted to. And why not? I'm a free human and I can decide for my own what I want to believe in. As long as I don't hurt or disturb anyone with my believes, what would be wrong with believing in fairies?

There is no harm. But you can't claim them to be real, can you? I beleive I look 28. But reality says I'm (a little, lol) older.

Which is correct: what I choose to beleive or what objective reality says?

My name is ThinksDesign, actually.

ThinksDesign

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Merry Meet, Christians

I am just explaining to you what I believe in and am not asking ANYONE to believe in the same thing. I offered many times to close this discussion, but you are asking over and over again. So what are you expecting?

But aren't you in the least bit bothered if what you believe is actually true?

The thing is, if you go to Hell for being wrong here... that's a long time suffering. The Bible, meanwhile, is totally true and has never been proved wrong about anything.

[Maike Lorenzen, nazi witch]

Re: Merry Meet, Christians

There is no harm. But you can't claim them to be real, can you? I beleive I look 28. But reality says I'm (a little, lol) older.

Which is correct: what I choose to beleive or what objective reality says?

My name is ThinksDesign, actually.

ThinksDesign

Of course I can't say they are real, I cannot prove this. But this is about believing and faith can be much stronger than some people might think. Some people choose to believe in fairies, I chose to believe in a Goddess and that's it. It's not in my interest to prove anything to anyone, I absolutely tolerate the believes of others. What I told you before is what I believe and only that, nothing more.

And to your "which is correct" question: Why not both? The obejctive reality is the truth, but everything around that can be seen so differently in so many ways.

Example: The sky is blue. Sure it is blue, all of us can see it! This is the objective part. But the believing part is, WHY it is blue. Some say, it is blue, because God wants it to be like that. Others say, it is because of the light reflection and others again may think that someone paints it blue. But what do I care what other think about that, when I'm sure of my version? Does that even matter, as long as I know that the sky is blue?

[Didymus Much]

Re: Merry Meet, Christians

...An it harm none do what ye will.

You violate this every time you open your mouth.

You've acknowledged that magic cannot be shown to have any effect in reality, and that any benefit you've gained from the worship of Wicca is solely about "feeling better" (in an emotional sense, not a health benefit).

This "feeling better" is solely based on your refusal to accept the fact that you're too pigheaded to find out how the world actually works.

Any time you claim that Wicca can help people, or that Gods or Goddesses are more than a deluded idiot's fantasies most suited to convincing homely fat chicks to have sex with him in the woods, you're spreading ignorance, not knowledge, and that does harm, even if you're too stupid to see it.

All Wiccans are hypocrites.

[Maike Lorenzen, nazi witch]

Re: Merry Meet, Christians

Now, look who's back.

I have read some of your posts and I am actually really confused. What are you now, an atheist, a wannabe-christ or just a common troll?

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Merry Meet, Christians

Now, look who's back.

I have read some of your posts and I am actually really confused. What are you now, an atheist, a wannabe-christ or just a common troll?

Didymus is a total weirdo who admits we are right about God because that's how He is described in the Bible but still acts as if in some way the Bible is not the last word on the nature of the earth and firmament. He acts like the Bible is just another book.

It's some sort of weird mental disorder.

[Didymus Much]

Re: Merry Meet, Christians

Now, look who's back. ...

I'd been quiet for a while hoping you'd tire of banging your head against the brick walls of Landover's minds, and realise that no one here is interested in the crap you're selling.

...I am actually really confused...

Yeah, we'd noticed with the "Horny Gods and Goddesses" and the "magic is real except when it isn't but then it really is if you just believe in it" talk.

...What are you now...

Didymus Much, the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

...common troll?

Common? Nothing common about me.

[Maike Lorenzen, nazi witch]

Re: Merry Meet, Christians

Didymus is a total weirdo who admits we are right about God because that's how He is described in the Bible but still acts as if in some way the Bible is not the last word on the nature of the earth and firmament. He acts like the Bible is just another book.

It's some sort of weird mental disorder.

That explains a lot. Thank you for the information.