Merry Meet, Christians

[Maike Lorenzen, nazi witch]

Merry Meet!

My name is Maike Lorenzen, I am from the nothernmost part of Germany, Sleswick-Holsatia or, in our language, Schleswig Holstein. I am 20 years old and working parttime as model and as wholesaler in a small company. Besides that, I am a Wicca since I am 16. I read your forum rules and I am not here to debate or to argue with any of you. I hope we can get along at least a little bit.
My reason for being here is to learn more about the bible, historially, ethically and of course to praise God with you, as all Gods are one.

And before any arguments start here, I just want to say: I believe in the Goddess and the horned God and in nature and you believe in Jesus Christ, your saviour. Maybe I am right, maybe you are right. Both of us are convinced that our way is the right one, but before you just come here to tell me that I'll go to hell: Save your time. I won't believe in Jesus Christ, since my heart is already given to another religion. As I said, maybe I am wrong and I will go to hell, but then I will take the consequences as they come, since I don't deserve it better. But well, I am who I am. Nevertheless, I am excited to know some of you and to learn more about history, religion and cultures.

Oh, of course: I've never attended any church in my life, but I read the bible. Just because I don't believe in it, doesn't mean I need to have a lack of knowledge
My favourite verse is this: 1 Corinthians Chapter 13:13:

And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

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1 Corinthians Chapter 13:13:

And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.

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Merry Meet!


And before any arguments start here, I just want to say: I believe in the Goddess and the horned God and in nature

Witch. You know what God says about your kind:

Exodus 22:18

Thou shalt not suffer a witch to liue.

Revelations 21:8

But the fearefull, and vnbeleeuing, and the abominable, and murderers, and whore mongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all lyars, shall haue their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Have you come here to find Jesus and let His Love enter you or are you here to attempt to tempt us with your idollatrous and lustful ways?

How does it feel when you spit in the face of Baby Jesus?

[Dr Laurence Niles]

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I find it hard to beleive you are a Wicca and a model. Witches are all green skinned warty hags.

I dare you to prove you are a model

YIC

[Paragon of virtue]

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Merry Meet!

My name is Maike Lorenzen... Blah, Blah, Blah....B.S.......B.S....B.S.. I'm going to Hell

I think your probably a double reverse troll of some kind trying to bait a few of us into responding harshly. Well, go look for your entertainment elsewhere. Matthew 7:6

[Dr. Isaiah Jones]

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Merry Meet!

My name is Maike Lorenzen, I am from the nothernmost part of Germany, Sleswick-Holsatia or, in our language, Schleswig Holstein. I am 20 years old and working parttime as model and as wholesaler in a small company.

Your father has a lot to learn when it comes to upbringing.

Leviticus 19:29 Do not prostitute thy daughter, to cause her to be a whore; lest the land fall to whoredom, and the land become full of wickedness.

Besides that, I am a Wicca since I am 16. I read your forum rules and I am not here to debate or to argue with any of you. I hope we can get along at least a little bit.
My reason for being here is to learn more about the bible, historially, ethically and of course to praise God with you, as all Gods are one.

The Holy Bible KJV1611 is the infallible word of God. It contains the entire history of mankind from the beginning of the universe (Genesis) until the very end of it (Revelation). It is also a complete guidebook for life in every single aspect of it. Either you accept it and live by it or you go to hell.

Proverbs 30:5 Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
Proverbs 30:6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.

Matthew 4:4 Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

As for witchcraft, it is an abomination in the eyes of the Lord. Why have you decided to throw everything away and reject God's gift of eternal life?

Exodus 22:18 Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.

Leviticus 20:6 And the soul that turneth after such as have familiar spirits, and after wizards, to go a whoring after them, I will even set my face against that soul, and will cut him off from among his people.

And before any arguments start here, I just want to say: I believe in the Goddess and the horned God and in nature and you believe in Jesus Christ, your saviour.

So you worship the devil. Your vile choices in life sadden me but I also know that Jesus brought you here for a reason. It is never too late to repent and accept Him as your Lord and Savior.

Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Galatians 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

Maybe I am right, maybe you are right.

No. We are right and you are wrong.

1st Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
1st Corinthians 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

Both of us are convinced that our way is the right one, but before you just come here to tell me that I'll go to hell: Save your time. I won't believe in Jesus Christ, since my heart is already given to another religion.

It is our duty to prove you wrong and I suggest that you pay attention because your Salvation is at stake.

2nd Timothy 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.

Psalm 139:21-22 Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee? I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies.

As I said, maybe I am wrong and I will go to hell, but then I will take the consequences as they come, since I don't deserve it better. But well, I am who I am. Nevertheless, I am excited to know some of you and to learn more about history, religion and cultures.

Oh, of course: I've never attended any church in my life, but I read the bible. Just because I don't believe in it, doesn't mean I need to have a lack of knowledge
My favourite verse is this: 1 Corinthians Chapter 13:13:

And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.

I see that you have already taken the first step towards Salvation. I can only pray that some day you will come to realize the errors of your ways. You may not believe in hell but why take the chance? You have the antichrist inside you. Why not abandon all the unhappiness that your satanic lifestyle has brought you over the years and instead find true happiness through Jesus Christ?

1st John 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

YiC
Isaiah

[NoobProfile]

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The bible says that witchcraft is wrong. I come here to accept Jesus into my life, I am also new. You can find love in Jesus too if you reject your wiccan lifestyle of sin.

Micah 5:12
And I will cut off witchcrafts out of thine hand; and thou shalt have no more soothsayers

Galatians 5:20-21
Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

Revelation 22:15
For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

[Maike Lorenzen, nazi witch]

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As I said before, I am not here to find to Jesus Christ, nor to troll or to spread hate. I am here to learn more about your history and your believing and feel free to ask me questions, too. I am not whorshipping the devil, since Wiccas are using positive and good magic to praise the Goddess and feeling one with nature and everything. We are not evil nor ugly. In fact, even old documents about the witchhammer claim, that the accused witches were mostly very beautiful, to seduce mankind. Of course, this is not true, we don't have something like that in mind. All we want is being happy and feeling near to the Holy Spirit.

We just celebrate once in a month and praise the Goddess and the horned God, we sing and eat together, talk about cooking and healthy meals, try to tell the future, let ourself go, trying to learn more about natural medicine and gain some wisdom. Does that really sound this evil to you?

I don't believe in hell but in reincarnation. But I don't want to get more into detail in there, since it won't interest you much anyway, I guess

Unfortunately, Mr. Niles, there aren't any pictures of me on the internet, as I am not a very famous or good model. I only do it once in a while, when my agency gets some offers. Then I only model for things like brochures or advertising for small companies. But if you want to see some pictures so badly, I will call the agency and ask if I could upload some.

[Dr. Isaiah Jones]

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We just celebrate once in a month and praise the Goddess and the horned God, we sing and eat together, talk about cooking and healthy meals, try to tell the future, let ourself go, trying to learn more about natural medicine and gain some wisdom. Does that really sound this evil to you?

In other words: you worship the devil. And yes that does sound quite evil indeed.

Exodus 34:14 For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:

[Mary Etheldreda]

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As I said before, I am not here to find to Jesus Christ, nor to troll or to spread hate. I am here to learn more about your history and your believing

Hello, and welcome to our friendly forums!

If you want to find out about Jesus Christ, you can read all about Him! Simply walk to your nearest Baptist church and request a Holy Bible. If you'd rather, you can get started right now by clicking on this link. Be sure to read this helpful guide for newcomers, and remember, if you want to share your opinion, kindly provide the scriptural support for it. Landover Baptist's universal declaration of rights on our forum can be found HERE.

I don't believe in hell but in reincarnation. But I don't want to get more into detail in there, since it won't interest you much anyway, I guess

What is this belief based on? Can I learn about it?

[Didymus Much]

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...I don't believe in hell but in reincarnation. But I don't want to get more into detail in there...

...What is this belief based on?...

An irrational fear of death, accompanied by sufficient willful scientific ignorance, and chauvinism (inevitably based on egoism) that the universe just could not be so cold and heartless that it would dare to exist for any purpose other than to give Maike (and her friends, of course) a place to exist for a blink in time. Add a little "karma" to this (so that the "bad people" who make poor little Maike's life so terrible, but that she's personally too weak and powerless to do anything about [or so she has convinced herself], end up suffering for their crimes instead of getting away scot-free) and either reincarnation or Heaven (which is still reincarnation, just not on this plane of existence) become necessary for the protection of her idea of self.

Does any of this sound vaguely familiar, Mary?

[BelieverInGod]

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An irrational fear of death, accompanied by sufficient willful scientific ignorance, and chauvinism (inevitably based on egoism) that the universe just could not be so cold and heartless that it would dare to exist for any purpose other than to give Maike (and her friends, of course) a place to exist for a blink in time. Add a little "karma" to this (so that the "bad people" who make poor little Maike's life so terrible, but that she's personally too weak and powerless to do anything about [or so she has convinced herself], end up suffering for their crimes instead of getting away scot-free) and either reincarnation or Heaven (which is still reincarnation, just not on this plane of existence) become necessary for the protection of her idea of self.

Does any of this sound vaguely familiar, Mary?

Wow, someone got up on the wrong side of the bed this morning.

What's with all the anger today? Is Jesus knocking at your heart starting to keep you up at nights?

[Mary Etheldreda]

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An irrational fear of death, accompanied by sufficient willful scientific ignorance, and chauvinism (inevitably based on egoism) that the universe just could not be so cold and heartless that it would dare to exist for any purpose other than to give Maike (and her friends, of course) a place to exist for a blink in time. Add a little "karma" to this (so that the "bad people" who make poor little Maike's life so terrible, but that she's personally too weak and powerless to do anything about [or so she has convinced herself], end up suffering for their crimes instead of getting away scot-free) and either reincarnation or Heaven (which is still reincarnation, just not on this plane of existence) become necessary for the protection of her idea of self.

Does any of this sound vaguely familiar, Mary?

Not quite, dear. For one thing, this Wiccan belief is as hard to pin down as nailing jell-o to the wall. There are many websites and books claiming to teach “real” Wicca, but the truth is, there is no consensus among Wiccans as to what the religion is all about in the first place. So how would Maike and her friends even know if they believe the right thing, or if they're practicing their beliefs the right way? In contrast, the Christian faith is as easy to understand as opening a book and praying to the Holy Spirit for guidance.

Wicca is a religion that takes a pack of lies, ties it in a romantic ribbon, and appeals to frightened, ignorant, lazy, gullible, and lonely people to sell its hollow doctrines. It seems the fascination with Wicca is the purported use of spells and magic to change an unpleasant reality. The difference between us is that Wiccans like Maike claim magic is simply using their minds to control matter, while True Christians™ like myself call upon an omnipotent, omnipresent God to heal people and to intervene and work in our lives. One is wrong, the other is right.

[Maike Lorenzen, nazi witch]

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I respect all of your opinions and yes, Mrs Etheldreda (a beautiful name, by the way) I would like to answer your questions. It is true, not all Wiccas believe the same thing, but I prefer on believing in what my heart says is right. I do not intend to do anything evil but to live a life, in which I can stand myself and won't regret anything. If I would claim to be a christian now with a lying heart, it would bring me to hell anyway.

Now, to the reincarnation: I believe that the Holy Spirit is all around us, making things, people, animals live. I mean, isn't it stupid to think that everything just came from nothing? How did our heart stop beating? Who are we? Why can we even think about this? So I think, there is some of this Spirit inside of us, our eternal soul. When we die, our bodies die and that soul moves on and gets reborn in another body.
Actually, there are souls who can't handle their death and become ghosts. Sometimes there were even cases, when people had an accident and fell into coma. As they woke up again, they were totally different persons, speaking another language, having different names, ect. I think it could be possible that one of those scared and lost souls took over them in a moment when they were weak.
But usually the souls get into newborn babies and start a new life, not remembering any of what happened in their old life. Only very powerful Wiccas can see some very rare moments or ideas of their former life. And no, this has nothing to do with fear of death, but with the eternal circle of life.

I'm sorry to see you so disillusioned and bitter, Mr. Much. I hope this good christians will help you find some love and faith in life.

[Mary Etheldreda]

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I respect all of your opinions

Did you mean to say you respect the fact that we all have opinions, dear? Because frankly, if you respected our opinions, you'd be on your knees before Christ right now, begging Him for mercy, and confessing the fact that you are naught but a wasted flesh-bag of mostly water, taking up resources from this earth and pushing your pagan ways on others by trying to make them look respectable.

and yes, Mrs Etheldreda (a beautiful name, by the way) I would like to answer your questions. It is true, not all Wiccas believe the same thing, but I prefer on believing in what my heart says is right.

But there is no way for you to know if what your heart "says" is morally correct or not, is that right? You could be like a pre-Saved© Jeffrey Dahmer who believed he was following his own heart when it came to raping, boiling, and eating young boys. Only by faith was he spared the eternal punishment of not believing, and at this moment is receiving his eternal reward!

I do not intend to do anything evil but to live a life, in which I can stand myself and won't regret anything. If I would claim to be a christian now with a lying heart, it would bring me to hell anyway.

Well, you may not intend to do anything evil, but without Christ in your heart, how would you know?

Now, to the reincarnation: I believe that the Holy Spirit is all around us, making things, people, animals live. I mean, isn't it stupid to think that everything just came from nothing? How did our heart stop beating? Who are we? Why can we even think about this? So I think, there is some of this Spirit inside of us, our eternal soul. When we die, our bodies die and that soul moves on and gets reborn in another body.
Actually, there are souls who can't handle their death and become ghosts. Sometimes there were even cases, when people had an accident and fell into coma. As they woke up again, they were totally different persons, speaking another language, having different names, ect. I think it could be possible that one of those scared and lost souls took over them in a moment when they were weak.
But usually the souls get into newborn babies and start a new life, not remembering any of what happened in their old life. Only very powerful Wiccas can see some very rare moments or ideas of their former life. And no, this has nothing to do with fear of death, but with the eternal circle of life.

Well isn't this a lovely idea! But from where does it come? Although I agree with you in that it is stupid to think that everything just came from nothing, ignorance of how the world works is no excuse to believe whatever story appeals to your emotional state or is simple enough for a child to comprehend. That's just silly, and one could fall for any tale that way. But we have a Heavenly Father who left us a number of facts, including from where everything came, and what happens to the soul after bodily death. It also explains how resurrection works, which is a matter of fact, not a fantasy like reincarnation.

I'm sorry to see you so disillusioned and bitter, Mr. Much. I hope this good christians will help you find some love and faith in life.

Don't spend too much worry on account of him. It is a known fact that atheists are all disillusioned and bitter. They have no purpose in life and are incapable of feeling joy or peace at any level. It's quite sad, really, but only until we are in Heaven, where the memories of our unsaved friends and family, and the knowledge of their unending pain and suffering won't even be preserved in our memory! Glory!