[Tzieth]

Re: About Tzieth

No, but I did.



Wow, aren't we humble.



Haggai 2:7: And I will shake all nations, and the desire of all nations shall come: and I will fill this house with glory, saith the LORD of hosts.

Isaiah 11:10: And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.



Many Words and all principles of the Bible apply to believers today, but they are not immediately who is being addressed in the text. You have to ask yourself who is speaking and who is being spoken to, and why? Christ was warning His chosen of the Pharisees (notice how when you take ALL of the Bible together, the pieces fit)...

Matthew 23:1-3: 1Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples, 2Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: 3All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.

Do you think that when God told Noah to build an ark that He was talking to you? How about when Jesus told Zacchaeus to "come down"? Was He addressing you? Please try to work on your exegesis skills a little. They suck.



I'll buy you a new Mercedes if you can prove that statement, friend. A counsel meeting in the 4th century by some pasta-slurpers who are credited for canonizing the Bible doesn't mean they had a thing to do with creating its contents, or even with making it popular and accepted. It is a widely known fact that every Word of the Bible was recorded in the letters and statements of many writers and "church fathers" of the time and before, so that God's Book could be fully recreated even before a single completed copy was ever printed. God is in charge and could see to it that His Word remained spoken and written ever since it was orally delivered by Jesus and the Apostles themselves (see Matthew 16:18; Daniel 2:44)...

Psalm 12:6-7: The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.

Are you so faithless that you think God has to have some council of idol worshipping boy-violators in the 4th century to preserve His Word??



Well, I see we've met our quota for stupid today.

Pastor Ed

Met your quota for stupid? Please don't insult yourself Mr Ed. Gosh darnit I completely did not want to get into an argument but do I have a choice now?

Haggai 2:7: And I will shake all nations, and the desire of all nations shall come: and I will fill this house with glory, saith the LORD of hosts.

Isaiah 11:10: And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.

Both are way out of context and you know it. I am curious though.. Why are you using haggai as a reference?

"I'll buy you a new Mercedes if you can prove that statement, friend. A counsel meeting in the 4th century by some pasta-slurpers who are credited for canonizing the Bible doesn't mean they had a thing to do with creating its contents, or even with making it popular and accepted."

You are not a true pastor are you? Aside from the fact that you sling insults like a sailor, your historical facts are seriously lacking.

The Proof is in the fact that the Romans documented everything as did the Greeks. But okay, I will play your game lol.

A) Your word of mouth theory does apply to the torah but in no way does it apply to the New Testament. The gospels were written accounts and/or letters. As for your proof of how the Bible was put together... Well, there is more proof of that in written documentation by historians of the time, than there is that the Gospels were actually written by Matthew, Mark, Luke or John. As for Acts and the rest? A Tax-man who is en-route to persecute Christians (Who by the way never knew Jesus when Jesus lived.) Suddenly claims to have an encounter then writes a bunch of letters protesting churches of the time. How is this any different from what Jim Jones or David Koresch claimed? (Rome put it in because it was all about control and servitude... I personally do not give these books credence.. but thats just me.. Same with Revelations which by the way again talks about the "do not judge" thing.

We know there was no Bible pre-Nicea because this is not "Prehistory" as like the Old Testament was. For 200 years Christians were killing Christians and that is well documented. It was the reason for the Counsel. There was only the Torah and the Gospels. And there were a-lot more Gospels that were floating around then what was put into the Bible. These "Pasta-Slurpers" (Does your bigotry have no end? I am 4th gen Italian by the way, so thanks for that.) that you speak of may or may not have been christian. But they are the ones that decided what went in and what was to be left out. Am I to understand that God left his divine word into the hands of infidel Pasta-slurpers? (FYI Nicea was in Bithynia {modern day Turkey} not Italy.)

So which is it, Pastor Ed? The Bible was the result of pagan Infernal Romans, or Christian Pre-Catholics who were truly inspired by Christ in the name of true righteousness? There is no third option here...

[Peacebewithyou]

Re: About Tzieth

Tzieth, I would like to hear what all God revealed to you when you got down on your knees and prayed. Thanks.

[James Hutchins]

Re: About Tzieth

Friend, I am a bit miffed.

You come here, admit you are no Christian yet you attempt to engage Godly people in a debate?

First of all, this is NOT a debate forum. We're right and you're wrong, according to Jesus and the Holy Word of God. Please read THIS thread before making an even bigger fool of yourself.

Secondly, while the internets might seem to be "free" to you, this particular corner of the internets is a privately owned Christian forum. The rights you have on this forum are listed HERE. Please contact a Pastor immediately if you feel that any of your rights have been violated.

Finally, your unsaved opinions or tantrums are not even slightly of interest to us. We follow the Holy Word of God TO THE LETTER, and make no apologies for that. One of the most important commandments in the Bible tells us to avoid unsaved scum such as yourself. You wandered in here uninvited, and unwelcome .

If you want to debate people, THIS is the place to go.

Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire.

[Alvin Moss]

Re: About Tzieth

I would like to add that strong language is never appreciated.

[Tzieth]

Re: About Tzieth

Tzieth, I would like to hear what all God revealed to you when you got down on your knees and prayed. Thanks.

Sure.. but not on here. These people are not Baptists and they sure as heck aren't Christian.

[Father Maurice Lester]

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The Libtards control the mass media and will fully use this against you to make the point that you are an "ignorant redneck"...

Although you seem to have a grasp on the history of the Catholic Church and its relationship with the Bible you seem to be sorely incapable of both charity to others (Libtards?) and reading well known and widely published television/radio ratings.

Fox News is a large part of the mass (no relation to us) media, the most popular Cable news in America while so-called right-wing radio dominates the ratings as far as talk radio is concerned. This seems at odds with your above quote so I must surmise that you are another of the sadly brainwashed Americans who in fact do qualify as ignorant.

Ignorance:

lack of knowledge or information.

"he acted in ignorance of basic procedures"

synonyms: incomprehension of, unawareness of, unconsciousness of, unfamiliarity with, inexperience with, lack of knowledge about, lack of information about;

The colour of your neck is unknown to me but I suspect your arrogance (that bit that has you bandying about catch-phrases of demonstrable ignorance) is what will finally be the yolk about your neck that will keep you from the spiritual enlightenment we all need if we desire to spend eternity at the side of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

As for the idea that Catholics and Baptists are essentially the same save for our veneration of The Virgin Mary, I further recommend some basic research beyond the rigorous religious studies of your military experience to help you with what once again is clearly your ignorance on the given subject.



Bless you, my ignorant imposthume,
Father Mo



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[Mary Etheldreda]

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Sure.. but not on here. These people are not Baptists and they sure as heck aren't Christian.

You're confused, dear. You imply you know what the Christian faith really is, and yet you reveal naught but ignorance and arrogance in your posts. Why so much anger? Have you been recently left by a man and are all alone now? Perhaps we can help! Some time ago I wrote a letter to my niece in order to help her find a decent True Christian™ man to marry and care for her. You can read it here. I hope you find it helpful.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: About Tzieth

... I suspect your arrogance (that bit that has you bandying about catch-phrases of demonstrable ignorance) is what will finally be the yolk about your neck that will keep you from the spiritual enlightenment we all need if we desire to spend eternity at the side of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ....



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And, pray tell dear papist, what is the definition of "irony"?

[Brother Larry]

Re: About Tzieth

Although you seem to have a grasp on the history of the Catholic Church and its relationship with the Bible you seem to be sorely incapable of both charity to others (Libtards?) and reading well known and widely published television/radio ratings.
Bless you, my ignorant imposthume,
Father Mo

Father Mo,

I note that your location is Vatican City. Do you plan any trips to the US in the near future?

Brother Larry

[Tzieth]

Re: About Tzieth

Although you seem to have a grasp on the history of the Catholic Church and its relationship with the Bible you seem to be sorely incapable of both charity to others (Libtards?) and reading well known and widely published television/radio ratings.

Fox News is a large part of the mass (no relation to us) media, the most popular Cable news in America while so-called right-wing radio dominates the ratings as far as talk radio is concerned. This seems at odds with your above quote so I must surmise that you are another of the sadly brainwashed Americans who in fact do qualify as ignorant.

Ignorance:

lack of knowledge or information.

"he acted in ignorance of basic procedures"

synonyms: incomprehension of, unawareness of, unconsciousness of, unfamiliarity with, inexperience with, lack of knowledge about, lack of information about;

The colour of your neck is unknown to me but I suspect your arrogance (that bit that has you bandying about catch-phrases of demonstrable ignorance) is what will finally be the yolk about your neck that will keep you from the spiritual enlightenment we all need if we desire to spend eternity at the side of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

As for the idea that Catholics and Baptists are essentially the same save for our veneration of The Virgin Mary, I further recommend some basic research beyond the rigorous religious studies of your military experience to help you with what once again is clearly your ignorance on the given subject.



Bless you, my ignorant imposthume,
Father Mo



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Father, I assure you that I am many things, but "Brainwashed" is not one of them. Though I am conservative, I do not trust Fox News no more than I do CNN.

I use the term "Libtards" because they are just that. It is to the point that they are becoming dangerous. I am unaware of how you priests become priests. Seminary?

I went to a State University and though my major was Criminal Justice, I had to have a few other curriculum that I could have done without. Sociology and Biology based classes were like a Marxist brainwashing session. Though Macro-Evolution is still just a theory, these other science based classes use it as a platform implying that it is a proven fact. (Micro-Evolution is, but not Macro.) It was bad enough that I had to grin and bare the Macro-Evolution stuff, but why must I have been forced to listen to Socialist-Extremist views?

Their agenda is not to "Save the environment." I learned fast that this is how they gain a voting population among hippie types. Their true agenda is happening before our eyes. "Complete Socialism" Obama care is just the start. If complete socialism is achieved, then the Government would then control everything and it is only a matter of time before we get our own Joesph Stalin... Kiss freedom of speech and freedom of religion goodbye.

As for what I said about the Fundamentals. I am 1/2 Italian and a lot of my family are Catholic. *** anti-Landover libel removed ***

But I can tell you all the differences between Baptist and Catholic. Baptist do not pray to the Virgin Mary, They do not believe in fixed prayer, They do not believe in Purgatory, They believe that you can only reach heaven by being born again. Baptism is symbolic to Baptists, but they do not believe water saves you. Aside from that, the core beliefs "The sermon it's self" is pretty much the same. Compare this to the core belief's of a Pentecostal, Jehovah's Witness or Mormon and you see how the fundamentals of how both interpret scripture are the same. Both use King James, Both believe in the Holy Trinity, both believe that during the Pentecost "Speaking in tongues." literally meant other nations languages and not some weird angelic language because we didn't stop reading there.. we read on to where it said "Go ye there forth and teach all nations."

[Father Maurice Lester]

Re: About Tzieth

And, pray tell dear papist, what is the definition of "irony"?

Not to be confused with ironing, something you should better stick to, irony might well be summed up with a supposed literal interpreter of scripture (you in this case) attempting to "teach or usurp authority over a man". (Moi in this case)

Timothy 1, 2:12 KJV.


Bless you, my Baptist baby machine,
Father Mo




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[Tzieth]

Re: About Tzieth

You're confused, dear. You imply you know what the Christian faith really is, and yet you reveal naught but ignorance and arrogance in your posts. Why so much anger? Have you been recently left by a man and are all alone now? Perhaps we can help! Some time ago I wrote a letter to my niece in order to help her find a decent True Christian™ man to marry and care for her. You can read it here. I hope you find it helpful.

First off dear Mary I am male. So by your own rules are you not supposed to bow down to me?

I assure you I am not angry, though I now know this is your goal and your little inbox to me has shown me just how Christian you truly are

My infraction was for being a feminazi Bi--h? How very Christlike of you.

I stated that I no longer considered myself "Southern Baptist" I never said that I was not a Christian. I asked something of God and God granted it. That made me lose faith in the church (My denomination) but it brought me closer to Christ as I had ever been before. <---Not for you Mary as I know you don't really care. *** anti-Landover libel removed ***

[James Hutchins]

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....I do not trust Fox News no more than I do CNN. .....

Really? You trust Fox News more than CNN? When did you trust Fox News? What was the deciding event that induced your waffling?

So contrary to all your blowhard rhetoric. Or was the double negative just 'another mistake in judgment'?

At least Fo'Mo follows his 'religion' with a fervent heart and a learned tongue (confirmed by many a choir boy).

[Basilissa]

Re: About Tzieth

I went to a State University and though my major was Criminal Justice, I had to have a few other curriculum that I could have done without. Sociology and Biology based classes were like a Marxist brainwashing session. Though Macro-Evolution is still just a theory, these other science based classes use it as a platform implying that it is a proven fact. (Micro-Evolution is, but not Macro.) It was bad enough that I had to grin and bare the Macro-Evolution stuff, but why must I have been forced to listen to Socialist-Extremist views?

I think you are confused, dear. Any type of evolution is false. Like you said, it's just a theory (same like the theory of gravity, also false).

Their agenda is not to "Save the environment." I learned fast that this is how they gain a voting population among hippie types. Their true agenda is happening before our eyes. "Complete Socialism" Obama care is just the start. If complete socialism is achieved, then the Government would then control everything and it is only a matter of time before we get our own Joesph Stalin... Kiss freedom of speech and freedom of religion goodbye.

Oh, I agree with you there, everything what Obama does is strikingly similar to the Gulag system, not to mention that the Patriot Act made us into a police state (even though this law passed before Obama took office, it was clearly his own doing) and all of the parallels between our economic problems and the Ukrainian hunger in the early 30's.... I think the only reason why we aren't eating our dead relatives yet is because we are a Godly Christian nation, unlike these Ukrainian heathens.

This is the soviet-like destination Obama is taking us to:

[Father Maurice Lester]

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..Though I am conservative, I do not trust Fox News no more than I do CNN... I went to a State University ...

I trust they did not charge you for this fine education of yours?

I learned fast...

The evidence suggests otherwise.

If complete socialism is achieved, then the Government would then control everything and it is only a matter of time before we get our own Joesph Stalin...

Joseph Stalin was a closer to being a communist, but not a socialist. Here again your State University education has failed you and your ignorance is showing.

...I was inboxed an infraction for "Being a feminazi (Alternate name for a female dog)

No it is not. Your ignorance is astounding. It is a pejorative term for women perceived by ignorant men like yourself as being radical feminists.

But I can tell you all the differences between Baptist and Catholic.

I don't think you posses the knowledge or communication skills to inform anybody much of anything outside of the abundant ignorance that defines you. I am surprised you haven't fit right in here with the rest of the rubes.




Bless you, my State University drop-out,
Father Mo




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