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  • The Biblical Case for Making Trump King

    This may be a bit controversial, but I've been looking into the Christian monarchist movement recently, and I'm starting to think we can make a compelling case from Scripture as to why we should have a King. And I'm not talking about the US joining the British Commonwealth (Deuteronomy 17:15) or becoming a constitutional monarchy, but an absolute monarchy.


    A representative republic is not Biblical

    In fact, it is never mentioned in the Bible. There was a time when God's people had no King, but the anarchy under the judges was not a good thing.

    Judges 21:25 In those days there was no king in Israel: every man did that which was right in his own eyes.

    And democratically electing leaders may not be the best way to go. Shouldn't we let God choose our leader?

    Hosea 8:4 They have set up kings, but not by me: they have made princes, and I knew it not: of their silver and their gold have they made them idols, that they may be cut off.


    The Bible commands us to honor the King

    Which is difficult to do if you don't have one.

    Ecclesiastes 8:2 I counsel thee to keep the king's commandment, and that in regard of the oath of God.
    Ecclesiastes 8:3 Be not hasty to go out of his sight: stand not in an evil thing; for he doeth whatsoever pleaseth him.
    Ecclesiastes 8:4 Where the word of a king is, there is power: and who may say unto him, What doest thou?
    Ecclesiastes 8:5 Whoso keepeth the commandment shall feel no evil thing: and a wise man's heart discerneth both time and judgment.


    Proverbs 24:21 My son, fear thou the Lord and the king: and meddle not with them that are given to change:
    Proverbs 24:22 For their calamity shall rise suddenly; and who knoweth the ruin of them both?


    First Peter 2:13 Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme;
    First Peter 2:14 Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well.
    First Peter 2:15 For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men:
    First Peter 2:16 As free, and not using your liberty for a cloke of maliciousness, but as the servants of God.
    First Peter 2:17 Honour all men. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honour the king.



    The advantages of a monarchy

    Kings are always right.

    Proverbs 16:10 A divine sentence is in the lips of the king: his mouth transgresseth not in judgment.

    Proverbs 8:15 By [wisdom] kings reign, and princes decree justice.

    But even if they aren't, we should still obey them. We could look at how David refused to harm Saul even when he was trying to kill him.

    First Samuel 24:6 And he said unto his men, The Lord forbid that I should do this thing unto my master, the Lord's anointed, to stretch forth mine hand against him, seeing he is the anointed of the Lord.

    Or we could look at how Jesus told the Jews to obey the Roman Emperor.

    Mark 12:17 And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. And they marvelled at him.

    We could also look at the books of Samuel. They're a bit confusing to read. It's almost as if Samuel couldn't make up his mind whether having a King was a good idea or a bad one. For example, here's one passage that makes it sound as if God's people had rejected Him by wanting a King to rule over them instead of a prophet.

    First Samuel 8:6 But the thing displeased Samuel, when they said, Give us a king to judge us. And Samuel prayed unto the Lord.
    First Samuel 8:7 And the Lord said unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them.


    But then as we read on, we see how having a King enabled God's people to unite and defeat their enemies. The country seems to be divided at the moment and it has so many enemies -- North Korea, Mexicans, Muslims.


    Could Trump be another King David and deliver God's people from their enemies?

    Having a King would also help us to set up a Theocracy. The King is required to write a copy of God's law for himself and read it every day (Deuteronomy 17:18-20). A good King could be a religious reformer like Josiah (Second Chronicles 34:1-35:27).


    How can monarchies be bad if Jesus is a King?


    We're soon going to be living under one when Jesus comes back, if you accept a literal reading of the Bible. He will rule as King on earth from Jerusalem for 1,000 years and then for ever on the New Earth from the New Jerusalem.

    Matthew 25:31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory.

    Psalm 48:2 Beautiful for situation, the joy of the whole earth, is mount Zion, on the sides of the north, the city of the great King.

    Micah 4:7 And I will make her that halted a remnant, and her that was cast far off a strong nation: and the Lord shall reign over them in mount Zion from henceforth, even for ever.

    Revelation 19:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
    Revelation 19:12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself . . .
    Revelation 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
    Revelation 19:16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, King Of Kings, And Lord Of Lords.


    Revelation 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

    Hebrews 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

    Can we really come up with a better system of government than God?


    Do we now have a suitable candidate?


    Ok, so Trump has had three wives. That's nothing compared to Solomon (First Kings 11:3)

    I think it would be nice if we could lock in Trump. I don't want to think about getting stuck with a Democrat if they one day actually suspend democratic elections, like they always secretly want to do.

    So, what do you think?

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  • #2
    Re: The Biblical Case for Making Trump King

    I think it's worth adding that a woman cannot be a legitimate monarch. We can read Scottish Reformer John Knox's First Blast of the Trumpet
    Against the Monstrous Regiment of Women
    , in which he refuses to acknowledge Mary Tudor and Mary Queen of Scots as the rightful rulers of England and Scotland respectively.

    Wonder it is, that the advocates and patrons of the right of our ladies did not consider and ponder this law, before they counseled the blind princes and unworthy nobles of their country to betray the liberties thereof into the hands of strangers: England, for satisfying of the inordinate appetites of that cruel monster Mary (unworthy, by reason of her bloody tyranny, of the name of a woman), betrayed, alas! to the proud Spaniard; and Scotland, by the rash madness of foolish governors, and by the practices of a crafty dame, resigned likewise, under the title of marriage, into the power of France. Does such translation of realms and nations please the justice of God?

    Or is the possession, by such means obtained, lawful in his sight? Assured I am that it is not . . . . And yet to these two cruel tyrants (to France and Spain I mean) is the right and possession of England and Scotland appointed.
    He bases his argument on nature and passages such as 1 Timothy 2:12 -- "But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence."
    sigpicMt 21:42, 44 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes . . . ? And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.

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      Re: The Biblical Case for Making Trump King

      Donald Trump would be a great king. I can't think of anyone who would be better.
      May you be a blessing to every life you touch.

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      • #4
        Re: The Biblical Case for Making Trump King

        It always comes down to this, do we want to get something done for Jesus or continue to tread water. Donald Trump as King gets it done. Trump as President has to make deals with Congress, Governors, Mayors and ultimately with ignorant atheist voters.

        On top of that, the Trump family has a deep bench. Waiting in the wings to take over the Monarchy is his young handsome son, Barron. I see Barron as another King Tut. Tutankhamun took over at about Barron's age and became a famous and successful King.
        Isaiah 24:1-3 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty (2)...as the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him. (3) The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken his word.

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        • #5
          Re: The Biblical Case for Making Trump King

          I'm all for making President Trump the ultimate royalty during these last days of Earth but I strongly think that to make Him a mere king would be belittling His skills and leadership. Rather an Emperor, a Pontifex, a Caesar!

          Matthew 22:21
          They say unto him, Caesar's. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's.


          Let us give Him the things which are His - America! Our souls unto God and these earthly meadows to Donald I the Magnificent!




          Yours in Christ,

          Elmer
          2 Kings 18:25 - Am I now come up without the LORD against this place to destroy it? The LORD said to me, Go up against this land, and destroy it.



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          • #6
            Re: The Biblical Case for Making Trump King

            Biblical evidence provided by Brother Alan is truly irrefutable. If I may add, in the Bible "presidents" are always beneath a king - although above princes:

            Daniel 6:1-7
            1 It pleased Darius to set over the kingdom an hundred and twenty princes, which should be over the whole kingdom;
            2 And over these three presidents; of whom Daniel was first: that the princes might give accounts unto them, and the king should have no damage.
            3 Then this Daniel was preferred above the presidents and princes, because an excellent spirit was in him; and the king thought to set him over the whole realm.
            4 Then the presidents and princes sought to find occasion against Daniel concerning the kingdom; but they could find none occasion nor fault; forasmuch as he was faithful, neither was there any error or fault found in him.
            5 Then said these men, We shall not find any occasion against this Daniel, except we find it against him concerning the law of his God.
            6 Then these presidents and princes assembled together to the king, and said thus unto him, King Darius, live for ever.
            7 All the presidents of the kingdom, the governors, and the princes, the counsellors, and the captains, have consulted together to establish a royal statute, and to make a firm decree, that whosoever shall ask a petition of any God or man for thirty days, save of thee, O king, he shall be cast into the den of lions.

            Then the king listens to his presidents and princes, casts Daniel into the den of lions, God saves Daniel, and this is what king Darius does to all of these presidents and princes who conspired against Daniel:

            Daniel 1:24 And the king commanded, and they brought those men which had accused Daniel, and they cast them into the den of lions, them, their children, and their wives; and the lions had the mastery of them, and brake all their bones in pieces or ever they came at the bottom of the den.

            Hence, here is another proof that God sees a king as a higher office than a president.
            God created fossils to test our faith.

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            Jesus is impolite. Deal with it.
            Jesus is xenophobic and so should we.
            Sanctity of Life is NOT a Biblical Concept.
            Biblical view on modern-day slavery.
            The Immorality of the "Universal Declaration of Human Rights."
            Geneva Conventions vs. The Holy Bible.
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            • #7
              Re: The Biblical Case for Making Trump King

              I get so excited at the thought of Trump becoming King. I wonder what styles he would go by. I know he's a humble, modest man, but we need something that would bring the office the gravitas it deserves. Perhaps:


              Donald, by the grace of God King of America, Emperor of Iraq and Afghanistan, Coregent of Okinawa, Protector of Guam, Lord of Mar-a-Lago . . .


              Anything else we could add?

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              • #8
                Re: The Biblical Case for Making Trump King

                I think we should began to prepare the public for this change from President to King now. I don't think we should just spring it on the masses but instead take to slow and steady.

                The first way we could signal that this change is in the works would be to have President Trump start carrying an ornate sceper whenever he appears in public. Here is one I like:

                Isaiah 24:1-3 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty (2)...as the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him. (3) The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken his word.

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                • #9
                  Re: The Biblical Case for Making Trump King

                  We're going to need some coronation music to go with that Orb and Sceptre.

                  Hell's foundations quiver at the shout of praise;
                  brothers, lift your voices, loud your anthems raise.
                  ...and get off my lawn
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                  • #10
                    Re: The Biblical Case for Making Trump King

                    Originally posted by WilliamJenningsBryan View Post
                    We're going to need some coronation music to go with that Orb and Sceptre.
                    Speaking about orbs. Future Emperor Trump () has had his hands all over one already:



                    I know, not the best photo. His hands seem a bit small here.
                    God created fossils to test our faith.

                    * * *

                    My favorite LBC sermons:
                    True Christians are Perfect!
                    True Christian™ Love.
                    Salvation™ made Easy!
                    You can’t be a Christian if you don’t believe the Old Testament.
                    Jesus is impolite. Deal with it.
                    Jesus is xenophobic and so should we.
                    Sanctity of Life is NOT a Biblical Concept.
                    Biblical view on modern-day slavery.
                    The Immorality of the "Universal Declaration of Human Rights."
                    Geneva Conventions vs. The Holy Bible.
                    God HATES Rational Thinking!
                    True Christian™ Man as a spitting image of God.

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                    • #11
                      Re: The Biblical Case for Making Trump King



                      I can't wait to see (I'll probably be dead, Glory, and looking at the spectacle from Heaven) God-Emperor Trump as the foremost portrait on Mount Rushmore!



                      On this mountain (we can surmise), many events leading to the End of Times will take place.

                      Isaiah 17:13
                      The nations shall rush like the rushing of many waters: but God shall rebuke them, and they shall flee far off, and shall be chased as the chaff of the mountains before the wind, and like a rolling thing before the whirlwind.


                      Yours in Christ,

                      Elmer
                      2 Kings 18:25 - Am I now come up without the LORD against this place to destroy it? The LORD said to me, Go up against this land, and destroy it.



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                        Re: The Biblical Case for Making Trump King

                        HAIL SATIN HAIL SATN HAIL SATN HAIL THE DARK LORD FOR HE SHAL CONSUME YOU ALL IN THE DEPTHS OF HELL 666 666 666 666 666 666 666 666 666 666 666 666 666 666

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                          HAIL SATAN ***unnecessary and vain repetition removed*** 666 ***more unnecessary and vain repetition removed***

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                            Re: The Biblical Case for Making Trump King

                            Originally posted by jezuslover87 View Post
                            HAIL SATIN HAIL SATN HAIL SATN HAIL THE DARK LORD FOR HE SHAL CONSUME YOU ALL IN THE DEPTHS OF HELL 666 666 666 666 666 666 666 666 666 666 666 666 666 666
                            Originally posted by s4tanlover View Post
                            HAIL SATAN ***unnecessary and vain repetition removed*** 666 ***more unnecessary and vain repetition removed***
                            Aren't you two sinners kinda cute in your vain and unimaginative rage! It was, of course, foreseen that immature intellectually challenged victims of genetic entropy would eventually rule the realm of the Interwebs.

                            Isaiah 3:4
                            And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.


                            Yours in Christ,

                            Elmer
                            2 Kings 18:25 - Am I now come up without the LORD against this place to destroy it? The LORD said to me, Go up against this land, and destroy it.



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                              Re: The Biblical Case for Making Trump King

                              Originally posted by Elmer G. White View Post
                              Aren't you two sinners kinda cute in your vain and unimaginative rage! It was, of course, foreseen that immature intellectually challenged victims of genetic entropy would eventually rule the realm of the Interwebs.
                              Yours in Christ,
                              Elmer
                              Thank you, Professor White, for putting this troll in her place.

                              We here at Landover Baptist are serious people discussing serious topics. It is discouraging when trolls waltz in here with childish comments.

                              Back to our topic, I watched President Trump address the United Nations yesterday. It was a brilliant speech.

                              I wished, however, he would have carried or worn some symbol of royalty. This would have introduced him to world leaders as someone above themselves. Maybe a robe would have accomplished this.
                              Isaiah 24:1-3 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty (2)...as the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him. (3) The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken his word.

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