[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Originally Posted by The Patriot

Ok now everyone read this, and read it good..[apologist rubbish for J. K Rowling deleted]

Look, we're talking a woman with $Billions - Did she sell her soul to Satan for these riches? I think we should be told!

Anyway, if you had that sort of money, don't you think you could employ a good PR firm to have the public (you) believe anything at all???

[Brother_Percy]

Originally Posted by Kinetic

Everyone here knows that harry potter is a work of fiction right?

Some facts you might wish to consider with this so-called 'work of fiction'...

It is well known that Rowling is a recruiter for various Anti-Christian and Satanist Organizations, including the Church of Satan, The Wiccan Circle, and the Pagan Federation. Reports in the press actually CONFIRM this, as The Pagan Federation has had to appoint a youth officer to deal with a flood of inquiries coming in from children as young as 6 years old, following the success of the Harry Potter books. (http://www.daveandangel.com/CRN/Harry_Potter_Fans_Turn_to_Witchcraft.html)

Harry Potter is a Trojan horse – a clever vehicle able to implant a sort of satanic receptor in the human soul – making youngsters vulnerable to demonic activity and possible demon infestation / possession.

Harry Potter books – packaged as harmless fantasy - are actually the genuinely dangerous. The necromancy, ceremonial magic, curses, spells, blood sacrifice, incantations, and so on, mirror actual occult ritual! While many of the names which permeate the books are actual names of real witches, occult figures, and demonic entities from throughout History. How could Rowling know such things if she wasn’t a witch herself?

Names such as ‘Hedwig', ‘Cliodna’, Alberic Grunnion’, ‘Nicolas Flamel’, ‘Paracelsus’, Henry Cornelius Agrippa’ were all famous witches, sorcerers and alchemists throughout the ages. Then we have names such as "Azkaban", "Circe", "Draco", "Erised", "Hermes", and "Slytherin"; all of which are names of real devils or demons. These are not characters of fiction!

Why package these books as fantasy when they are literally crammed full of REAL black magic ceremonies, REAL hexes and spells, names of REAL witches and demons? Why, if this is truly fantasy, wouldn’t Rowling fill these books with ‘made-up-names’ and ‘made-up-spells’, instead of real curses and names of real witches and demons? Well, maybe that is something you should think about.

How serious is this? By reading these materials, many millions of young people are learning how to work with demon spirits. They are getting to know them by name, and speaking their names aloud, opening their souls up to possession.

"There is a tremendous smoke screen in the Potter PR machinery," Caryl Matriciana, author of ‘Harry Potter – Witchcraft Repackaged’ DVD documentary was quoted as saying. "Does being packaged as 'fantasy' mean we're not to question content?"


Remember in the Bible what Paul had to say on this -

“Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?” II Corinthians 6:14

“Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.” Ephesians 5:11


According to Iowa Licensed Master Social Worker William Schnoebelen, former Church of Satan member - turned Christian, Potter characters execute satanic ceremony and technique as practiced today.

Schnoebelen, also a former instructor of witchcraft, says Potter imitators are blind to the entities that respond from "an unknown beguiling arena. It seems so enchantingly fun and innocent, but they are trafficking in evil spirits. The books definitely draw kids to witchcraft."

While former high-ranking occultist, ‘Peter’, said “The story of Harry Potter is an allegory: It is written and packaged to look like fantasy when, in truth, it is a carefully written true description of the training and work of an initiate in an occult order.... The story line aligns with real occult books written by Gavin and Yvonne Frost, who, themselves, run the foremost school of witchcraft in the British Isles.” (http://www.crossroad.to/ask-peter/index.htm)

Former satanic mystic, Johanna Michaelson, says, "There is a beautiful side of evil – deceptive, subtle, adorned with all manner of spiritual refinements, but no less from the pit of hell than that which is blatantly satanic."

There is a false story going around that JK Rowling’s exhaustively researched the occult to better animate her characters' skills. Friends, do not be naïve here. To animate her characters better? This is meant to be fiction, not a who’s who encyclopaedia of Black Magic and the Occult for a 6 year old child. My fears are mirrored in what Head Teacher of St Mary's Island Church of England school in Chatham, Kent, has went on the record as saying. Carol Rockwood stated that ‘Harry Potter is more dangerous to children than child molestors’. And I for one couldn’t agree more.

But it is not just your child’s spiritual welfare you should be concerned with. For these books not only teach your children how to do real Black Magic, channel spirits, hold congress with the dead, speak to ghosts and drink animal blood. But they also teach your children disrespect for authority, and glorify serious crimes such as ‘car theft’, ‘bank robbery’, ‘murder’ and ‘identity theft’, all of which Potter engages in throughout the books. And more worrying still is that these books actually teach your child how to make drugs!

In the first Potter book, Harry and his friends learn how to make drugs, and the glory of taking them. Listen to Professor Snape explain in the book: "I don't think you will really understand the beauty of the softly simmering cauldron with its shimmering fumes, the delicate power of liquids that creep through human veins, bewitching the mind, ensnaring the senses, I can teach you how to bottle fame, brew glory, even stopper death ... Potter! ... What would I get if I added powered root of asphodel to an infusion of wormwood?"

Do you see that little reference to "wormwood"? The plant, wormwood, contains thujone, an hypnotic drug, banned by the FDA since 1915. Further, wormwood is used to make Absinthe, a hallucinogenic liquor. Therefore, the drug to which Rowling makes reference is very real, and is so dangerous the FDA has banned it -- to this day, it is BANNED!

Checkmate, heathen!

[Charissa]

Originally Posted by Mr Godwin

Get this straight. People don't have the ability for success like that own their own, twitbottoms. Either God did it or the devil did it. Runeling is obviously in league with the devil. Her Harry Pooper books don't include scripture, either. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

Harry Potter and The Deathly Hallows:
"Where your treasure is there will your heart be also"
Also found in the book of Mathew... (Matthew 6:19-24)

[davids731]

I'd like to reference 2 verses of the Bible:

John 3:17 - " For God did not send his Son into the world to CONDEMN the world, but to SAVE the world through him."

Luke 6:37- "Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven.

We are not supposed to be condemning people but we are to love them and tell them the truth. Ask most non-Christians and they will say that Christians are hypocritical, condemning, self righteous people that think they are better than everyone else and I don't blame them. Christianity is all about love and forgiveness and people have twisted that into something that it was never intended to be. And we wonder why people don't want to be Christians. We are to be like Jesus and to do that we have to subscribe to the whole Bible, seek after God, and love people. I plead with you to really look into this. I don't mean to be condemning at all btw, I just need to speak the truth.

In Christ's love,

davids731

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Originally Posted by davids731

I'd like to reference 2 verses of the Bible:

John 3:17 - " For God did not send his Son into the world to CONDEMN the world, but to SAVE the world through him."

Luke 6:37- "Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven.

We are not supposed to be condemning people but we are to love them and tell them the truth. Ask most non-Christians and they will say that Christians are hypocritical, condemning, self righteous people that think they are better than everyone else and I don't blame them. Christianity is all about love and forgiveness and people have twisted that into something that it was never intended to be. And we wonder why people don't want to be Christians. We are to be like Jesus and to do that we have to subscribe to the whole Bible, seek after God, and love people. I plead with you to really look into this. I don't mean to be condemning at all btw, I just need to speak the truth.

In Christ's love,

davids731

Dear False Christian;

First of all, you're quoting from a satanic bible version. The KJV doesn't say anything like what you've posted above.

Secondly, what's your point? That withcraft is fine and dandy with Jesus?

Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

[handmaiden]

Originally Posted by davids731

I'd like to reference 2 verses of the Bible:

John 3:17 - " For God did not send his Son into the world to CONDEMN the world, but to SAVE the world through him."

Luke 6:37- "Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven.

We are not supposed to be condemning people but we are to love them and tell them the truth. Ask most non-Christians and they will say that Christians are hypocritical, condemning, self righteous people that think they are better than everyone else and I don't blame them. Christianity is all about love and forgiveness and people have twisted that into something that it was never intended to be. And we wonder why people don't want to be Christians. We are to be like Jesus and to do that we have to subscribe to the whole Bible, seek after God, and love people. I plead with you to really look into this. I don't mean to be condemning at all btw, I just need to speak the truth.

In Christ's love,

davids731

Christianity is NOT all about love and forgiveness, Christianity is about GOD'S love and HIS willingness to forgive those who OBEY Him and accept the sin covering of His Son's blood.

For people who choose to deny the existence of God and spit on His gift of a blood covering, there is no forgiveness-- period.

And please remember the obedience part--it's kind of crucial. People nowadays think that they can disobey much of, if not most of God's Word and still be forgiven if they go around talking about love all the time.


And your suggestion that we, here at LBC, are the ones twisting the Bible into something it was never intended to be is hilarious the the nth degree.

You say that we are to subscribe to the whole Bible, which is EXACTLY what we try to tell people to do. Then you say that we are to "love people" which is NOT the sum total of the Bible's message.

The Bible's message is that God is not only all-powerful, but that He and He ALONE is the arbiter of what is right and what is wrong -- not us and not you.

God commands us to obey Him completely and live. If we disobey Him, we are sent to hell.

All those other details that people like to argue about are secondary.

All the "love" towards others will not save you or them. Only obedience to God counts.

Of course, you are not alone in your Bible-Lite belief. So many people nowadays calling themselves Christians would fail the true tests of faith administered in the Bible.

It's because everybody in this day and age is so mollycoddled about the realities the Bible and the realities of life.

They can't stand to see an actual mouse caught in a trap so, of course, they could never obey God's commands to discipline their children, or kill His enemies.

You know, it might have been tough living in the era of non-anesthetized amputations, but at least people were willing to pick up a sword (or a stone or a burning torch) and deal with people who were enemies of God.

Subscribing to the whole Bible, to use your phrase, means knowing that is right to hit your child for disciplinary purposes. It is required to execute witches. It is legal to own slaves. It is wrong for women to speak, preach or teach in church.

It is wrong for a man to try and get out of inseminating his wife when ejaculating his sperm. It is wrong to stand by and permit homosexual behavior to carry on in one's community. It is wrong to divorce and remarry for any other reason than adultery committed against one.

There was a time when everyone in this entire country knew these basic statutes of the Bible and secular laws encoded by our leaders mirrored these statues.

Even if you didn't believe in the Bible, you still had to conduct your life according to its standards or face earthly consequences before being dealt with by God on a permanent basis.

But little by little, God's presence was erased in earthly law. People rewrote legal statutes based on what THEY thought was right, not on what God commands in the Bible.

Now, we have so-called Christians trying to re-write the Bible so that it appeals to modern sensibilities. God is all about love. God forgives everyone no matter whether they obey His commands or not.

I bet you probably don't like the idea that fornicators and adulterers and homosexuals all go to hell, do you? You probably think that if they are "nice" people, God will give them a free pass because He loves them so much.

That kind of weak, delusional, uninformed, Christianity would make the generations of earlier believers hound you out of their churches.


Realistically Yours,

Handmaiden

[DeadMan89]

This isn't proof, just wild speculation.

[IWill NotSin]

She is the delivs lover
and she make writes about
teen wizards learning spells
and curses. Her books should
not not be for sale in America

[Cranky Old Man]

It could be that
you are right about
that. But it is hard
to figure out with
all those short
sentences.

[Lycia The Repentant]

I agree with my
Brother Cranky, haiku posts
Are quite hard to read

[PetitionLady]

Originally Posted by handmaiden

Christianity is NOT all about love and forgiveness, Christianity is about GOD'S love and HIS willingness to forgive those who OBEY Him and accept the sin covering of His Son's blood.

For people who choose to deny the existence of God and spit on His gift of a blood covering, there is no forgiveness-- period.

And please remember the obedience part--it's kind of crucial. People nowadays think that they can disobey much of, if not most of God's Word and still be forgiven if they go around talking about love all the time.


And your suggestion that we, here at LBC, are the ones twisting the Bible into something it was never intended to be is hilarious the the nth degree.

You say that we are to subscribe to the whole Bible, which is EXACTLY what we try to tell people to do. Then you say that we are to "love people" which is NOT the sum total of the Bible's message.

The Bible's message is that God is not only all-powerful, but that He and He ALONE is the arbiter of what is right and what is wrong -- not us and not you.

God commands us to obey Him completely and live. If we disobey Him, we are sent to hell.

All those other details that people like to argue about are secondary.

All the "love" towards others will not save you or them. Only obedience to God counts.

Of course, you are not alone in your Bible-Lite belief. So many people nowadays calling themselves Christians would fail the true tests of faith administered in the Bible.

It's because everybody in this day and age is so mollycoddled about the realities the Bible and the realities of life.

They can't stand to see an actual mouse caught in a trap so, of course, they could never obey God's commands to discipline their children, or kill His enemies.

You know, it might have been tough living in the era of non-anesthetized amputations, but at least people were willing to pick up a sword (or a stone or a burning torch) and deal with people who were enemies of God.

Subscribing to the whole Bible, to use your phrase, means knowing that is right to hit your child for disciplinary purposes. It is required to execute witches. It is legal to own slaves. It is wrong for women to speak, preach or teach in church.

It is wrong for a man to try and get out of inseminating his wife when ejaculating his sperm. It is wrong to stand by and permit homosexual behavior to carry on in one's community. It is wrong to divorce and remarry for any other reason than adultery committed against one.

There was a time when everyone in this entire country knew these basic statutes of the Bible and secular laws encoded by our leaders mirrored these statues.

Even if you didn't believe in the Bible, you still had to conduct your life according to its standards or face earthly consequences before being dealt with by God on a permanent basis.

But little by little, God's presence was erased in earthly law. People rewrote legal statutes based on what THEY thought was right, not on what God commands in the Bible.

Now, we have so-called Christians trying to re-write the Bible so that it appeals to modern sensibilities. God is all about love. God forgives everyone no matter whether they obey His commands or not.

I bet you probably don't like the idea that fornicators and adulterers and homosexuals all go to hell, do you? You probably think that if they are "nice" people, God will give them a free pass because He loves them so much.

That kind of weak, delusional, uninformed, Christianity would make the generations of earlier believers hound you out of their churches.


Realistically Yours,

Handmaiden

I so appreciate your well thought out and realistic post. The message about obedience and God being the final arbitrator is spot on. Indeed, God never changes. He is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow. The Alpha and Omega, beginning and end. One we can always be certain of and count on. Mans' law may change, but God NEVER changes. He is in charge. I find comfort and reassurance in that.

Thank you, Handmaiden.

[peacemaker007]

Originally Posted by Pastor Ezekiel

Dear False Christian;

First of all, you're quoting from a satanic bible version. The KJV doesn't say anything like what you've posted above.

Secondly, what's your point? That withcraft is fine and dandy with Jesus?

Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

Dear false Christain pastor, please do not sprout your opinion as Fathers Word none of those scriptures even remotely state he will damn those people. If he does we are all going to hell, we damn our selves by not chosing the Lord. those of us who are Christian know that when a fellow brother or sister has an incorect view we show care and love in correcting them. And for the person who thinks we should not judge you are half correct Jesus told his deciple when he ask about what would happen to another disciple the Lord replied (paraphrasing) mind your own business and that carries on to non christians also. you are not Father and know nothing of other people hearts or intentions that is between tham and Father who knows them. However we are required as Christians to judge actions not intents so we will know what is right or wrong BUT we will all get it wrong as often as we get it right. Now I retract my introduction calling you are false christian pastor and appologise as it was only meant to show you the evil of judging peoples opinions and or mis interpretations of the bible. your job as a pastor is to gentle in your teaching of younger minded Christians and correct them with the love that comes with the spirit of God. that care and love that comes with the spirit was clearly not evident in your terse answer to some one who is likley to be a Christian. You'll note that Jesus never talked to that masses or groups in the manner you did this person. he did however occationally speak to people in your position in such a manner because you should know better. If I judge your interactions and comments on here I would have to say that your writtings have been disrespectfull, judgemental of people and where their heart is when you have no clue where this persons heart is, arogant in your assumptions about other versions of the bible that are more than 90% word for word what the KJV says therefore you are calling those portions in the KJV satans work his words better that you show wisdom and explain that some versions have what we believe are incorrect interpretations in some areas. I happen to agree that they get a number of things wrong but I would never dare to call them satans bible. And I tell you know listen if you have ears Father, Jesus and the Holy spirit will not be happy with the way you speak to brothers and sisters or those he wants to be part of his family. those people who are looking are here to finsd the love of God, looking to fill that hole and get for thier effort sarcastic, unfeeling ridicule. Can you seriously say Father is happy with that?

[Redeemed Papist]

Originally Posted by peacemaker007

Blah, whine paraphrase (i.e. make up as I go along) whine whine what would God think?

Go and make a proper introduction as you were told!

Also

Titus 1:13 This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;

1 Timothy 5:20 Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.

Romans 3:5 But if our unrighteousness commend the righteousness of God, what shall we say? Is God unrighteous who taketh vengeance? (I speak as a man)

2 Corinthians 7:11 For behold this selfsame thing, that ye sorrowed after a godly sort, what carefulness it wrought in you, yea, what clearing of yourselves, yea, what indignation, yea, what fear, yea, what vehement desire, yea, what zeal, yea, what revenge! In all things ye have approved yourselves to be clear in this matter.

This is what God thinks of us and the need to rebuke sinners.

NOT paraphrasing.

[Mrs. Mary Whitford]

Originally Posted by peacemaker007

*snip*

Friend, it's called a "paragraph". If you expect us to read whatever ramblings the devil spews out of your fingertips, at least try to make it readable by using paragraphs.

[peacemaker007]

Lol feel free to delete my account, I said what was needed, my only regret was being too tired and not spell and gramma check. I prefer to communicate with christians not wolves in sheeps clothing spewing hate not the love of God. You might want to look at the first 3 commandments, Love God, "LOVE EACH OTHER" and love yourselves (not much love here just hate, judgement and arrogance, all perfectly well worn satanic traits who stands before Father day and night doing just as you are on this site).
You may want to remember that all the people Jesus spent most of his time with were the very people you curse and spew hatred towards, you remember the masses? tax collectors, prostitutes, homosexuals, liars, thieves the very people you turn away because "they" are sinners (appearently your not, must be more than one Jesus now you guys are so perfect). His words were always firm but tempered with the Love of the Father. They/we are the meek he came for, they/we are the ones he came to save not Pharasies who think they are better than others who behavied as you do on this site.
The dead leading the dead, whited sepulctures he called people like you. I'll expect my ex communication from this site forthwith I take it. For the meek reading this, these people "DO NOT' represent our Father. He is always ready to forgive, always patient, always empathetic, always loving.
How or when I gave my heart to the Lord is none of your business and between my Father and me, mind your own business, spend your time looking at the great evil contained in your own hearts before its too late. Get the behind me Satan. God Bless. Bye now

[peacemaker007]

Originally Posted by Redeemed Papist

Go and make a proper introduction as you were told!

Also

Titus 1:13 This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;

1 Timothy 5:20 Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.

Romans 3:5 But if our unrighteousness commend the righteousness of God, what shall we say? Is God unrighteous who taketh vengeance? (I speak as a man)

2 Corinthians 7:11 For behold this selfsame thing, that ye sorrowed after a godly sort, what carefulness it wrought in you, yea, what clearing of yourselves, yea, what indignation, yea, what fear, yea, what vehement desire, yea, what zeal, yea, what revenge! In all things ye have approved yourselves to be clear in this matter.

This is what God thinks of us and the need to rebuke sinners.

NOT paraphrasing.

By all means rebuke yourself to your hearts content as you are a sinner as are we ALL. Dont seem to hear you rebuking yourself only self righteous spewing. I prefer to tell people what Father calls sin in a loving manner and help them to work towards not sinning as much as they can because I know in my Fathers eyes I am no different to those you mock, accuse and belittle.

You seem to forget that those scriptures are directed at "us Christians" who should know better not the unbeliever who lives in ignorance. Show one scripture where the Lord spoke the way you do to those who were not his deciples, to those who massed to listen to him. (any way dont bother trying to understand the blind and deaf never will, I will be ex communicated soon so probably no need to reply. Prefer to speak with Christians anyway so have no intention of communicating anymore) God Bless

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Originally Posted by peacemaker007

By all means rebuke yourself to your hearts content as you are a sinner as are we ALL. Dont seem to hear you rebuking yourself only self righteous spewing. I prefer to tell people what Father calls sin in a loving manner and help them to work towards not sinning as much as they can because I know in my Fathers eyes I am no different to those you mock, accuse and belittle.

You seem to forget that those scriptures are directed at "us Christians" who should know better not the unbeliever who lives in ignorance. Show one scripture where the Lord spoke the way you do to those who were not his deciples, to those who massed to listen to him. (any way dont bother trying to understand the blind and deaf never will, I will be ex communicated soon so probably no need to reply. Prefer to speak with Christians anyway so have no intention of communicating anymore) God Bless

That's all very nice, but what you are saying is not consistent with scripture. We are told not to keep fellowship with sinners in many places, one such being here:

2 John 1:10-11 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Originally Posted by peacemaker007

***claptrap***

Originally Posted by peacemaker007

***more claptrap***

If you could provide instances of the Bible supporting any of your outrageous and blasphemous claims, it would help your case immensely.

Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

[Yeshua bar Yusuf]

Originally Posted by peacemaker007

blah blah I love Satan. You might want to look at the first 3 commandments, Love God, "LOVE EACH OTHER" and love yourselves. Blah blah I spit in the face of Baby Jesus.

I don't know what book you read that from, but in the KJV, the first three commandments are Deuteronomy 5:6-11.

6I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage. 7Thou shalt have none other gods before me.
8Thou shalt not make thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the waters beneath the earth: 9Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me, 10And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me and keep my commandments.
11Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain: for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

"LOVE EACH OTHER" and love yourselves.

That just sounds like you're trying to justify homosinuality and masturbation.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Originally Posted by peacemaker007

Lol feel free to delete my account

Dear Hatemonger;

I'm sorry, but it is our policy NEVER to remove the account of an unsaved fool. Your belligerent hatemongering will remain for future unsaved scum to see and learn from for all eternity (or until Jesus returns to slay most of the earth, whichever comes first).

Jesus called you here for a reason, so you might rethink your selfish tantrum and stick around.

If you'd really like to remove yourself from our Godly forum, all you need to do is to click on that tiny red "x" in the upper righthand corner of your computer screen. Then close your computer, stand up, and walk away.

YIC,

--Pastor Ezekiel