[Sister Charli]

Originally Posted by Talitha

Praise Jesus Brother V.
It makes so much more sense than all the non-sense about "Big bangs" out of nothing.

How true you are Sister Tali.

I have people regularly mock me for my belief in God.

And when I ask them for their explanation of where earth, animals, humans, plants, the universe came from they waffle something about a "big bang"?

But how can a "bang" of a couple of atoms that happened to mysteriously appear from nothingness come up with so many different life forms?

Would not each "bang" produce the same?

What kind of "bang" produced a pumpkin? And why would a different "bang" produce a donkey?

Defies logic their "theory" when there is just so much data and evidence to say that God produced it ALL in 6 days and on the seventh day he rested.

[Timofey]

Originally Posted by Brother V

It's highly possible, that God didn't know where Adam and Eve were.

No one knows the nature of God. It's possible that he didn't give himself the omniscient abilities to know everything that would ever happen until after this incident.

If he had the forethought, he probably wouldn't have put the tree in there, because he knew that the people would eat from it. If he had the forethought, he wouldn't have created the serpent to convince them to eat from it. If he had the forethought, he wouldn't have made Eve to tell Adam it was alright to do.

So, it's possible, that he didn't realize he'd need that kind of power. It was only shortly after the 6 days of creation. He still didn't know what all kinds of super-God-powers he'd need. He was probably still just feeling around with his skills.

Like Jesus as a child, we never hear about any miracles from that period, it took him a while to realize all the things he could do. Remember, Jesus didn't walk on water until after he was baptized. Did he just not know he could? Wouldn't that be a way to gather followers? Instead of just walking around talking about the nature of God, wouldn't he gather more followers by doing miracles? Today, would Jesus have as many Facebook friends as David Blaine?

Hope this helps

YIC
V

Brother V,

I stand chastised knowing that you are right and that i should not question the nature of God, but that I know that he is and that his son is my salvation form a hedonistic life of depravity and earthly pleasure. GLORY!!

I believe Jesus would have more friends than Lady Gaga that strutting harlot than i so want. I slipped again. Oh is there no hope for me?

[BunnyBabe21]

Thank for posting Brother V. Im just starting the study but I hope to be caught up to everyone else by the end of the week. Thank you again for the amazing resource!!

[Taivorist]

Hello. I am searching some competent help in Genesis matters. I am really sorry, if my post is in wrong thread.

I live in Estonia, this my first post in this forum and my user name is my first plus family name, because my first name is too short. I am contributor of Estonian wikipedia (http://et.wikipedia.org) and we are trying to bring an article "Adam" (http://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aadam) into a featured article .

Some sentences in this article are marked as unsourced. Maybe you can help with sources for them (better in internet, because USA books are usually difficult to obtain in Estonia, but books with page numbers are also better than nothing). Wikipedia does not support original research and if sources cannot be found, then these sentences are considered original research and will be deleted. Forums and blogs are not considered good sources.

At first. In 1.Mo 2:16-17 God prohibits Adam to eat from tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Sentence: "This prohibition is often criticized." Maybe simply some sources where this is criticized, one (Leo Taxil) I have.

At second. In 1.Mo 1:20–27 God creates at first birds and animals and only after that creates human. But in 1.Mo 2:19 God creates at first human, then animals. Sentence: "This is considered a contradiction." (Taxil does not mention this.)

At third. In 1.Mo 1:27 God creates human as man and woman: "male and female he created them". Taxil considers possible, that at first God created Adam as hermaphroditic. Who knows? God can make everything. But after that God created Eve and it became clear, that Adam is not hermaphroditic. Sentence: "It is possible, that God did not create Eve from Adam's rib, but from Adam's female reproductive organs." (Taxil does not mention this hypothesis.)

Thank you in advance.

[Cranky Old Man]

Originally Posted by Taivorist

considers possible, that at first God created Adam as hermaphroditic. Who knows? God can make everything.

God created man in his own image (Genesis 1:27) and there is no way either God or Adam are hermaphroditic!

[Bobby-Joe]

Originally Posted by Taivorist

Hello. I am searching some competent help in Genesis matters. I am really sorry, if my post is in wrong thread.

I live in Estonia, this my first post in this forum and my user name is my first plus family name, because my first name is too short. I am contributor of Estonian wikipedia (http://et.wikipedia.org) and we are trying to bring an article "Adam" (http://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aadam) into a featured article .

Some sentences in this article are marked as unsourced. Maybe you can help with sources for them (better in internet, because USA books are usually difficult to obtain in Estonia, but books with page numbers are also better than nothing). Wikipedia does not support original research and if sources cannot be found, then these sentences are considered original research and will be deleted. Forums and blogs are not considered good sources.

At first. In 1.Mo 2:16-17 God prohibits Adam to eat from tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Sentence: "This prohibition is often criticized." Maybe simply some sources where this is criticized, one (Leo Taxil) I have.

At second. In 1.Mo 1:20–27 God creates at first birds and animals and only after that creates human. But in 1.Mo 2:19 God creates at first human, then animals. Sentence: "This is considered a contradiction." (Taxil does not mention this.)

At third. In 1.Mo 1:27 God creates human as man and woman: "male and female he created them". Taxil considers possible, that at first God created Adam as hermaphroditic. Who knows? God can make everything. But after that God created Eve and it became clear, that Adam is not hermaphroditic. Sentence: "It is possible, that God did not create Eve from Adam's rib, but from Adam's female reproductive organs." (Taxil does not mention this hypothesis.)

Thank you in advance.

Is this the Leo Taxil you are quoting? Some French man who wrote books that made up stuff about the Freemans?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxil_hoax

[Brother Temperance]

Originally Posted by Taivorist

Hello. I am searching some competent help in Genesis matters. I am really sorry, if my post is in wrong thread.

I live in Estonia, this my first post in this forum and my user name is my first plus family name, because my first name is too short. I am contributor of Estonian wikipedia (http://et.wikipedia.org) and we are trying to bring an article "Adam" (http://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aadam) into a featured article .

Some sentences in this article are marked as unsourced. Maybe you can help with sources for them (better in internet, because USA books are usually difficult to obtain in Estonia, but books with page numbers are also better than nothing). Wikipedia does not support original research and if sources cannot be found, then these sentences are considered original research and will be deleted. Forums and blogs are not considered good sources.

At first. In 1.Mo 2:16-17 God prohibits Adam to eat from tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Sentence: "This prohibition is often criticized." Maybe simply some sources where this is criticized, one (Leo Taxil) I have.

There is no book of Mo.

[Taivorist]

Thank you all, especially Cranky Old Man for showing link to site which gave me one reference (number two). I am working with others.

Also I thank brother Temperance. I made a mistake. I thought, that if it is Mo in my Bible, then it is Mo in English, too.

[Cindy Karly]

Originally Posted by Brother V

Genesis 1-3


In the beginning...

It begins.

Praise Jesus!!!

Genesis 1 tells the story of the first six days of creation. Praise Jesus!!!

God in His master plan, KNEW how the world had to be made. He was smart enough to make water before land, and then plants after water, and then animals after plants (the animals would have died without oxygen you see).

He's that smart.

Praise HIM!

In the beginning of Genesis 2, we see how our all-powerful God rested. Praise His tired holi-ness! Praise Him indeed!

Remeber in day six, Genesis 1:26, he made man, then in Genesis 2:7, he made man again. Praise His redundant nature!

Genesis 3 is where it starts to get good! There's the serpent, and the tree, and the nakedness. And then God kicks them out of eden.

Friends, read up! Drink up the knowledge contained in this book.

Remember, the story of creation (that which those eviloutionists don't want you to know) is contained in today's reading.

Praise Jesus!!!

YIC
V

WOW! This makes so much more sense then the big bang story I have been taught by my parents!!

Praise the Lord for mine having finally seen the truth!!!

[Grace K]

Originally Posted by Brother V

Genesis 1-3


In the beginning...

It begins.

Praise Jesus!!!

Genesis 1 tells the story of the first six days of creation. Praise Jesus!!!

God in His master plan, KNEW how the world had to be made. He was smart enough to make water before land, and then plants after water, and then animals after plants (the animals would have died without oxygen you see).

He's that smart.

Praise HIM!

In the beginning of Genesis 2, we see how our all-powerful God rested. Praise His tired holi-ness! Praise Him indeed!

Remeber in day six, Genesis 1:26, he made man, then in Genesis 2:7, he made man again. Praise His redundant nature!

Genesis 3 is where it starts to get good! There's the serpent, and the tree, and the nakedness. And then God kicks them out of eden.

Friends, read up! Drink up the knowledge contained in this book.

Remember, the story of creation (that which those eviloutionists don't want you to know) is contained in today's reading.

Praise Jesus!!!

YIC
V

AND GOD SAW IT WAS GOOD!!

[Rev. Edward Clement]

You teach with a great annointing Brother V! Praise Jesus!

[Pure_Angel]

How I love reading about God creating earth, as mentioned before: it makes much more sense that the Big Bomb or whatever theory!
Praise Jesus Brother V!

[timboyke]

i would like to start reading the bible, as published at the site biblegateway.
although there are alot of translations, does this forum have advice witch of the translations is 'best'

Tim

[María Gálvez-Villalobos]

Originally Posted by timboyke

i would like to start reading the bible, as published at the site biblegateway.
although there are alot of translations, does this forum have advice witch of the translations is 'best'

Tim

King James Version 1611 is the only one what is right version.

YIC, Mari

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Originally Posted by timboyke

i would like to start reading the bible, as published at the site biblegateway.
although there are alot of translations, does this forum have advice witch of the translations is 'best'

Tim

Please read my sermon on how to tell which Bible version is the one TRUE Holy Word of God HERE.

There are seven of them.

[commonterry]

Jesus damns those who ignore the homeless.

Matthew 25
41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’

44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’

45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Originally Posted by commonterry

Jesus damns those who ignore the homeless.

Matthew 25:41 - 45

First, let us consider:
Mat:26:11 For ye have the poor always with you; but me ye have not always.

Here Jesus says there is no absolute cure for poverty. There is no need even trying to prevent poverty - the task is hopeless.

Now consider this:

Since 1964 the United States Governments (Federal and State) have transferred over five trillion dollars from the middle class and the rich to the poor. Are the poor better off today or have they become more enslaved and dependent on government?

Now let's see what God really says:
I Timothy 5:8, “But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.”

And let us consider:

2Th:3:8: Neither did we eat any man's bread for nought; but wrought with labour and travail night and day, that we might not be chargeable to any of you:
2Th:3:9: Not because we have not power, but to make ourselves an ensample unto you to follow us.
2Th:3:10: For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.
2Th:3:11: For we hear that there are some which walk among you disorderly, working not at all, but are busybodies.
2Th:3:12: Now them that are such we command and exhort by our Lord Jesus Christ, that with quietness they work, and eat their own bread.

As a commentary from LBC on The Lord's Word, I think you will agree that we here are doing it right. You, on the other hand, are pissing against the wall.
1Kings:16:11And it came to pass, when he began to reign, as soon as he sat on his throne, that he slew all the house of Baasha: he left him not one that pisseth against a wall, neither of his kinsfolks, nor of his friends.

[SavedWife]

I could not have said it better, Sister Charli.
I have grown tired of telling them that there is no "theory" that will save them from the fires of Hell. I just hope that they repent early on, and enjoy the glory of His creations instead of wasting precious time with this monkey non-sense.

[Son of John]

Though it has been a while since this thread has been posted in, there is something regarding Genesis 1-3 that I've been wondering about, and this seems the appropriate place to put it.

Genesis 1:24 through Genesis 1:27 tells us that God made the animals of the world before He made man: "And God said, 'Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: the livestock, the creatures that move along the ground, and the wild animals, each according to its kind.' And it was so. God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good. Then God said, 'Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.' So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them." All of which is very well and good, and very profoundly written.

But during the story telling of the creation of Adam, Genesis 2:19 through Genesis 2:20 tells us that the beasts and birds of the Earth came after man: "Now the Lord God had formed out of the ground all the wild animals and all the birds in the sky. He brought them to the man to see what he would name them; and whatever the man called each living creature, that was its name. So the man gave names to all the livestock, the birds in the sky and all the wild animals." Again, all well and good, as it explains how man came to dominate over the creatures of the world.

But we are taught that the word of the Bible is 100% true, and in these places, the story of the Bible contradicts itself. I don't wish to say that the Bible is wrong - for that would be blasphemous - nor do I want to discredit the possibility that, in His power, God could have done both at once. So the question I pose is thus: Are both versions of the order of events during Creation correct, or is it only one; and, if the later, which one?

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Originally Posted by Son of John

So the question I pose is thus: Are both versions of the order of events during Creation correct, or is it only one; and, if the later, which one?

They are both true.

The first is the account of creation of the world and the universe.

The second is the account of creation of Eden.

Adam and Eve were the special, chosen people created in Eden. The first Jews.

The other people were the ones their children hybridized with (probably the "Neanderthals") once kicked out of Eden.