[SUV]

Re: WARNING! Falling stars August 11th to 14th!

Aw, shucks. I thought maybe some more of those awful movie "stars" were about to get on board the HELL train.

You Know, the truly vile ones like that Tom Hanks.

I use the small print, in case The Children might see this, to mention athian, false-Mother, and all-around hoor "Angel"in-a Jolie

[FilthyAtheist]

Re: WARNING! Falling stars August 11th to 14th!

Ye-es. We know. Stars are quite small and occasionally fall off the firmament when they burn out.

But you scientists say stars are massive balls of superhot gas. Until you're found out when one falls down that is and then it's all, "Oh look it's a previously invisible rock."

They were just too small to track.
All meteoroids and most of the known asteroids were fragments of larger bodies which have suffered massive collisions up to the last 4+billion years in orbits. With computers we can now actually backtrack asteroid orbits to the major collisions which produced major meteoroid bombardments on Earth.


Our sun is a star. It is billions of times the size of the earth.

A star is a massive, luminous ball of plasma held together by gravity. Stars are not tiny rocks. An average-size star will shed its outer layers as a planetary nebula. If what remains after the outer atmosphere has been shed is less than 1.4 solar masses, it shrinks to a relatively tiny object (around the size of the Earht) that is not massive enough for further compression to take place, they become known as a white dwarf. Eventually (after a very long period of time) white dwarfs will fade into black dwarfs (created when a white dwarf becomes sufficiently cool to no longer emit significant heat or light).

In larger stars, fusion continues until the iron core has grown so large -more than 1.4 solar masses- that it can no longer support its own mass. The shockwave formed by this sudden collapse causes the rest of the star to explode in a supernova. Most of the matter in the star is blown away by the supernova explosion -forming nebulae- and what remains will be a neutron star - which sometimes manifests itself as a pulsar or X-ray burster.

In the case of the largest stars that are large enough to leave a stellar remnant greater than around 4 solar masses - a black hole.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: WARNING! Falling stars August 11th to 14th!

They were just too small to track.
All meteoroids and most of the known asteroids were fragments of larger bodies which have suffered massive collisions up to the last 4+billion years in orbits. With computers we can now actually backtrack asteroid orbits to the major collisions which produced major meteoroid bombardments on Earth.


Our sun is a star. It is billions of times the size of the earth.

First you say they are too small to track. Then you say they are billions of times the size of the Earth. Which is it?

[FilthyAtheist]

Re: WARNING! Falling stars August 11th to 14th!

First you say they are too small to track. Then you say they are billions of times the size of the Earth. Which is it?

No I said a meteorite is too small to track.

A meteorite is not a star. A meteorite is less than a meter in diameter. The sun's diameter is roughly 857,492 miles - whilst that may seem massive our sun is quite small in comparison to many other stars. VY Canis Majoris for example, is the largest star we have ever discovered and is 1.7 BILLION miles in diameter.

A star is a gigantic ball of plasma, a meteorite is a fragment of a planet or another asteroid. Any large body that sustained a massive collision up to the last 4 billion+ years.

Take a look at this scale picture to see just how tiny our sun is compared to other known stars

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cc/Star-sizes.jpg

[Lost Sheep McUinnean]

Re: WARNING! Falling stars August 11th to 14th!

No I said a meteorite is too small to track.

A meteorite is not a star. A meteorite is less than a meter in diameter. The sun's diameter is roughly 857,492 miles - whilst that may seem massive our sun is quite small in comparison to many other stars. VY Canis Majoris for example, is the largest star we have ever discovered and is 1.7 BILLION miles in diameter.

A star is a gigantic ball of plasma, a meteorite is a fragment of a planet or another asteroid. Any large body that sustained a massive collision up to the last 4 billion+ years.

Take a look at this scale picture to see just how tiny our sun is compared to other known stars
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Star-sizes.jpg

That's all very well, like telling kids that Santa Claus is the Tooth Fairy, but can you back it up with Scripture please?

[FilthyAtheist]

Re: WARNING! Falling stars August 11th to 14th!

That's all very well, like telling kids that Santa Claus is the Tooth Fairy, but can you back it up with Scripture please?

Why is it like saying that? Because you cant understand it? It confuses you?


Can you back your scripture up with an extract from 'The Gruffalo'?

Scripture means nothing. A book being used by itself as evidence for something proves that said thing does not exist.

On the other hand there is unquestionable evidence for the existence of a star or a meteorite. Simply look up to the sky at broad day light.

That giant ass light in the sky?

Yep. It's a star.

Or look up to the sky during a meteorite shower. Or 'shooting stars' as you guys like to call them. For some reason some of you take that nickname literally and make the ridiculous claim that they are stars that 'fell' out of the sky.

[SUV]

Re: WARNING! Falling stars August 11th to 14th!

giant ass light in the sky

May Jesus preserve us all.

Quick! Put The Children into bed before they see this!

[Jack O'fagan]

Re: WARNING! Falling stars August 11th to 14th!

That's all very well, like telling kids that Santa Claus is the Tooth Fairy, but can you back it up with Scripture please?

Lost Sheep I am very relieved to hear from you. You haven't been around for a few weeks and I was worried that maybe you didn't get the hard hat warning. A star falling on your head is potentially lethal.

Jack

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: WARNING! Falling stars August 11th to 14th!

..make the ridiculous claim that they are stars that 'fell' out of the sky.

We make no such claim. God does. We accept His explanation. YOU are the one refusing to look at the evidence.

The Bible tells us:

MARK 13
[Jesus speaking]
23 But take ye heed: behold, I haue foretold you all things.
24 But in those dayes, after that tribulation, the Sunne shalbe darkned, and the Moone shall not giue her light.
25 And the Starres of heauen shall fall, and the powers that are in heauen shall be shaken.
26 And then shal they see the Sonne of man comming in the cloudes, with great power and glory.
©1611

DANIEL 8
10 And it waxed great euen to the hoste of heauen, and it cast downe some of the hoste, and of the starres to the ground, and stamped vpon them.
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REVELATION 6
[note the use of past-simple tense: this is an historical account of a future event]
13 And the starres of heauen fell vnto the earth, euen as a figge tree casteth her vntimely figs when she is shaken of a mighty winde.
14 And the heauen departed as a scrowle when it is rolled together, and euery mountaine and Island were moued out of their places.
15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chiefe captaines, and the mighty men, and euery bondman, and euery free man, hid themselues in the dennes, and in the rockes of the mountaines,
16 And said to the mountaines and rockes, Fall on vs, and hide vs from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lambe:
17 For the great day of his wrath is come, and who shall be able to stand?
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[vv16,17 - present tense: what those people actually said at the time (in the furure)]

Your motivation comes from Satan, not in itself enough to get your 100% irrevocable place in HELL because you could have repented
I John 1:9 and formed a personal relationship with God. But calling God "ridiculous"

..ridiculous..

and denying the veracity of His Holy Spirit when inspiring Mark, Daniel and John is blasphemy of a different magnitude.

MATTHEW 12
31 Wherefore I say vnto you, All maner of sinne and blasphemie shall be forgiuen vnto men: but the blasphemie against the holy Ghost, shall not bee forgiuen vnto men.
32 And whosoeuer speaketh a word against the sonne of man, it shall be forgiuen him: but whosoeuer speaketh against the holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiuen him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
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[Redeemed Papist]

Re: WARNING! Falling stars August 11th to 14th!

Why is this atheist throwing around claims that the sun is billions of times larger than the Earth? Does he not realise that this would make it of the order of ten million million kilometres in diameter according to heretical scientists' so-called calculations of the size of the Earth.

How can we take anything it rants seriously after claims like that where it clearly doesn't understand simple numbers or the science it champions.

No wonder it's confused as it lashes about trying to hate the majestic wisdom of scripture rather than just going and doing some work for Jesus.

[Lost Sheep McUinnean]

Re: WARNING! Falling stars August 11th to 14th!

Why is it like saying that? Because you cant understand it? It confuses you?


Can you back your scripture up with an extract from 'The Gruffalo'?

Scripture means nothing. A book being used by itself as evidence for something proves that said thing does not exist.

On the other hand there is unquestionable evidence for the existence of a star or a meteorite. Simply look up to the sky at broad day light.

That giant ass light in the sky?

Yep. It's a star.

Or look up to the sky during a meteorite shower. Or 'shooting stars' as you guys like to call them. For some reason some of you take that nickname literally and make the ridiculous claim that they are stars that 'fell' out of the sky.

Sticking your head in the sand and avoiding the isuue at hand really isn't helping you to get taken seriously Filth.

You're an ostrich. Don't be an ostrich my friend. An ostrich is no good to anyone. Ostriches have also lost every theological debate they've ever taken part in. If you act like them you'll end up ostrichised from True Christian society just like them.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: WARNING! Falling stars August 11th to 14th!

And Praise Jesus, God is smiting the wetbacks in Peruvia! Shout GLORY!!

[Jack O'fagan]

Re: WARNING! Falling stars August 11th to 14th!

WATCH OUT TONIGHT! Some more stars are falling. Movement in the waters above the firmament are detaching stars from the constellation of Leo. I just saw on of the blighters streak across the sky, naturally I dived to the floor and it missed me.

Just beware! It is an interesting thing to watch but remember a hard hat is recommended.

YIC

Jack

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: WARNING! Falling stars August 11th to 14th!

WATCH OUT TONIGHT! Some more stars are falling. Movement in the waters above the firmament are detaching stars from the constellation of Leo. I just saw on of the blighters streak across the sky, naturally I dived to the floor and it missed me.

Just beware! It is an interesting thing to watch but remember a hard hat is recommended.

YIC

Jack

These stars cool off quite a lot when they fall down and give a good indication of how big stars really are.

Here they are obviously still quite hot:



but this one has gone out completely:



It's fairly small and a bit damaged from hitting the ground.

This one's quite large:



and this one must have been absolutely enormous like the size of Sirius or something!

Photographed from an æroplane


Altogether they must weigh an awful lot and the sky must be very strong to hold them all up! Have the creation scientists ever estimated the weight of all those stars?

JOB 37
16 Doest thou know the ballancings of the clouds, the wondrous workes of him which is perfect in knowledge?
17 How thy garments are warme, when hee quieteth the earth by the South wind?
18 Hast thou with him spread out the skie, which is strong, and as a molten looking glasse?
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[Jack O'fagan]

Re: WARNING! Falling stars August 11th to 14th!

That's a very good question Mitza, especially for a woman. The Bible does not directly give us the weight of stars. The firmament I believe is around 500 miles above us and holds the stars, the planets and the Sun. From this vast distance we can see that a falling star could create quite a large impact crater.

The Bible does not tell us either the number of the stars. It is clear that they are not evenly spread out across the sky. I live in a large town in England and above us there are maybe twenty stars. However I have visited desert areas in the Holy Land and above them they have literally HUNDREDS of stars.

If we guessed at say one thousand stars with an average weight of a quarter of a ton (this allows for the really big ones) then that is a totally of 250 tons. This sounds like a lot but we must remember that the firmament held up most of the weight of the flood water (some came up from the fountains of the deep) so it is incredibly strong and it also supports the weight of the Sun and planets. Maybe that is another calculation to do another time, I don't know at this moment the density of coal but I will find out.


YiC

Jack