[Bryan Tamariki]

Originally Posted by James Dewitt

Hey I heard that Harry Krishna song before, the freaks in the yellow robes that hang around JFK airport sing it while beating on those annoying tambourines. I thought they where just pan-handlers begging for money.

I do find those Harry Krishmas funny Brother James. They only eat vegetables cooked in butter from their 'holy' cows. They are against war and practice 'non-violence'. Apparently they are also against sexual immorality, although how forcing their your daughter at an early age to 'marry' through a ritual to a demon can stop you living in sin beggars belief.
So from this, you might think that their demon-god Harry Krishmas was a navel-gazing fat hippy like Boodaa. The HKs' book the Bhagofold-Pita is said to describe Krishmas as a giant blue warrior, like one of those demons in 'Avatard', who spent his time killing people, fornicating and eating meat.

[blunthead]

Originally Posted by Bryan Tamariki

I do find those Harry Krishmas funny Brother James. They only eat vegetables cooked in butter from their 'holy' cows. They are against war and practice 'non-violence'. Apparently they are also against sexual immorality, although how forcing their your daughter at an early age to 'marry' through a ritual to a demon can stop you living in sin beggars belief.
So from this, you might think that their demon-god Harry Krishmas was a navel-gazing fat hippy like Boodaa. The HKs' book the Bhagofold-Pita is said to describe Krishmas as a giant blue warrior, like one of those demons in 'Avatard', who spent his time killing people, fornicating and eating meat.

We can agree on this. The Hare Krishna movement is more popular with hippy Westerner Whites than most Indians. It's more of a sanitised Krishna-worshipping culture that appeals to the sensibilities of Westerners. I doubt their sincerity and commitment to the original faith. I have always disliked going to Hare Krishna temples as their worship rituals reek of hyporcrisy.

Genuine Krishna-worshippers are nothing like Hare Krishna. They tend to lead more simple lives, engage in Raas Leela which are divine courtship song and dance rituals.

I'm more of a Goddess worshipper. I only revere Shakti, which is the embodiment of all feminine energy in the Universe. So, you have Goddesses like Durga, Kali, Lakshmi and Saraswati who symbolise strong maternal instincts in each and every particle we see around us.

Hell, I may even revere Mary, Mother of God as the Catholics do. It's great to know we have this concept in common with these people.

Protestant Christian sects like yours take the 10 commandment ban on idol worship too far. Idols are cool. They are a representation of a devotee's artistic imagery. You all (Protestant Christians) need to lighten up a bit.

[James Dewitt]

Originally Posted by bluntivory

What I meant was vegetarianism in India is WIDESPREAD. Say, 8 out of 10 Hindus abstain from meat. But, that doesn't mean all of us do.

I personally enjoy chicken, ducks, geese, turkey, mutton, fish and seafood as long as the birds and animals are not sourced from factory farms and subject to cruelty.

The concept of Sin is relative for Hindus. Unlike Christianity, we are a lot more flexible on everyday matters. There are no explicit prohibitions on what you can do, what you can't. Some Hindus stay virgin till marriage. Many of us don't. I also see nothing wrong in fornication and adultery as long as one takes safety precautions.

So to sum up your so called religion, you can not eat meat(BOVINE) or any other unless you want to.
You can fornicate with who and what ever you please.
You can be an Adulterer with who or what ever you please.
Your females are whores, and you do not mind nor does your God.

I think we have found the root religion of Satan, not to mention the damn spaghetti worshipers.

[blunthead]

Originally Posted by James Dewitt

So to sum up your so called religion, you can not eat meat(BOVINE) or any other unless you want to.
You can fornicate with who and what ever you please.
You can be an Adulterer with who or what ever you please.
Your females are whores, and you do not mind nor does your God.

I think we have found the root religion of Satan, not to mention the damn spaghetti worshipers.

As I said, I love the great amount of freedom I enjoy in Hindu religion. There are no religious edicts, fatwas or injunctions that prohibit me from doing certain things. It's my own Karma which does so. Put it another way, it's like basic Mathematics. As long as I raise add up my good karma and prevent the negative karma, I can do whatever I please as long as it doesn't hurt others.

EXAMPLES: If I sleep with a woman who is married to another man and her husband ignores the fact, noone really gets hurt in the process. I don't understand why God needs to interfere in such mediocre business of mortal beings. I'm sure God has more important things to take care of.

EXAMPLE: If I God forbid eat bovine meat (say, I've been starving for two days), God will probably understand my predicament and forgive me for that Sin.

I use my heart and conscience as a guiding force in all decisions of life. Thankfully, there's no pastor or any other mortal pretending to be God's representative telling me what I should do, and what I shouldn't. I treasure my strong personal relationship with God. I don't need MEDIATORS.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Originally Posted by bluntivory

[...] So, you have Goddesses like Durga, Kali, Lakshmi and Saraswati who symbolise strong maternal instincts in each and every particle we see around us.

Maternal instincts? Particles? Sir, are you aware that, in India, the endemic forms of dysentery allow demons to infest the brain and lead to such delusions as you now espouse!

How on God's Good Earth, can a particle have a "maternal instinct"???? Surely it has to be a "paternal instinct" for is not the man the head of the house and the highest authority there, subject only to Jesus Christ Himself?

I feel sure that Hindooism must have an alternative name for Hell and I suspect you are bound in that direction.

[blunthead]

Originally Posted by Ezekiel Bathfire

Maternal instincts? Particles? Sir, are you aware that, in India, the endemic forms of dysentery allow demons to infest the brain and lead to such delusions as you now espouse!

How on God's Good Earth, can a particle have a "maternal instinct"???? Surely it has to be a "paternal instinct" for is not the man the head of the house and the highest authority there, subject only to Jesus Christ Himself?

I feel sure that Hindooism must have an alternative name for Hell and I suspect you are bound in that direction.

As Hindus, we believe God and the Universe (particles) are identical. We believe in the sacredness of the nature and Cosmos. We do not believe in a personal, anthropomorphic God although we worship idols that represent the divine energy.

Worshipping the Goddess manifests from the brain. What we think, what we imagine - there's nothing wrong in attaching sacredness to it.

Hindu religion is practical for all purposes. It's like a GPS system which allows you to navigate through your life's path with ease. All you have are driving directions. It's upto you to decide your destination, speed limits and detours.

All you need is a little amount of flexibility and open-mindedness to understand the practical nature and sheer depth of such a sophisticated belief system as Hinduism.

[James Dewitt]

Originally Posted by bluntivory

All you need is a little amount of flexibility and open-mindedness to understand the practical nature and sheer depth of such a sophisticated belief system as Hinduism.

Depth, sophisticated?

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Originally Posted by bluntivory

As Hindus, we believe God and the Universe (particles) are identical. [...]

Well, you're wrong. Case closed. If God were identical with the "particles" then He would have created Himself, wouldn't He? Something, I suspect, that even you could not believe!

[blunthead]

Originally Posted by James Dewitt

Depth, sophisticated?

I personally don't consume cow urine. Like you, I would be repelled by the odour. However, to those Hindus who do consume it, I have nothing against them. They aren't hurting anyone in the process.

Case closed. Your argument is flawed.

[James Dewitt]

Originally Posted by bluntivory

I personally don't consume cow urine. Like you, I would be repelled by the odour. However, to those Hindus who do consume it, I have nothing against them. They aren't hurting anyone in the process.

Case closed. Your argument is flawed.

How can it be flawed when infact you people do it? Do you enjoy washing yourself in it? You need to find Jesus.

[blunthead]

Originally Posted by Ezekiel Bathfire

Well, you're wrong. Case closed. If God were identical with the "particles" then He would have created Himself, wouldn't He? Something, I suspect, that even you could not believe!

We have fundamental differences in the very meaning, concept and identity of God. While as a Christian, you believe in a SINGULAR entity called Jesus Christ, I believe God is everywhere in this Universe. All the particles.

True God should exist in your heart as well. Try and find him there through an internal GPS system.

Love yourself first if you want to find God.

Case closed.

(p.s. I object to the use of the term "GOD" since, strictly speaking there is no equivalent of that term in Hindu ethos and scriptures. We have Devas and Devis , but they are more of celestial beings than a singular God.

I use the word "God" in our present discussions as we are communicating to each other in English. So, I'm restricted in my choice of words and it also happens to be simpler for your fanatical Christian brain to understand. Otherwise, I don't agree with your idea and concept of God.)

[Dutch Girl]

Interesting! I am an atheist myself.

Do Hindus believe in an afterlife?

[blunthead]

Originally Posted by James Dewitt

How can it be flawed when infact you people do it? Do you enjoy washing yourself in it? You need to find Jesus.

Again, in simple English. I PERSONALLY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH COW URINE.

But, I also have nothing against those who enjoy consuming cow urine. I wouldn't judge someone's character based on whether or not they consumed cow urine. It's an irrelevant discussion for me.

I may love Jesus. He must have been a great man if he could walk over water and turn water to wine. But, looking at you people, I don't think I can ever like his followers. I can only pity you for the sheer intolerance in your hearts. That's not me. That's not what I want to become.

[Lycia The Repentant]

So is Gau Jal out yet? Have you tried it?

[blunthead]

Originally Posted by Dutch Girl

Interesting! I am an atheist myself.

Do Hindus believe in an afterlife?

Yes, it's called MOKSHA. Google it up. It's when your soul is freed from the burden of reincarnations as a mortal and you are free forever.

We have the concept of both Heaven-Hell as well as reincarnations.

As an atheist, if you ever want to join a religion, become a Hindu. We're the most flexible belief system in the world. You can be simultaneously a Hindu and an atheist as we encourage the growth of a strong personal belief system that reflects your true identity. In Hinduism, you'll not have to deal with preachers, pastors and other endless hypocrites. You can believe whatever you want to believe.

[blunthead]

Originally Posted by Lycia The Repentant

So is Gau Jal out yet? Have you tried it?

I'm repelled by the odour so wouldn't consume it as a liquid straight. But, we do use Gau Jal in several yajnas and other ritualistic ceremonies. It symbolises purification and cleansing of the soul.

[James Dewitt]

Originally Posted by bluntivory

I'm repelled by the odour so wouldn't consume it as a liquid straight. But, we do use Gau Jal in several yajnas and other ritualistic ceremonies. It symbolises purification and cleansing of the soul.

So does having a cow piss on your head

[blunthead]

Originally Posted by James Dewitt

So does having a cow piss on your head

That's an African child.

I would rather have a cow piss on my head than share your intolerance for other belief systems.

[James Dewitt]

Originally Posted by bluntivory

That's an African child.

I would rather have a cow piss on my head than share your intolerance for other belief systems.

What the heck is the difference, sand nigra or nigra from Africa? Who is intolerant? We love all True Christians, its you Hinidoos and Mooslims that hate people. Say you don't have one of those butt bombs tucked away do you? Why do you hate God?

[blunthead]

Originally Posted by James Dewitt

What the heck is the difference, sand nigra or nigra from Africa? Who is intolerant? We love all True Christians, its you Hinidoos and Mooslims that hate people.

You contradict yourself in the same sentence. Last time I checked using the word "nigra" or "sand nigra" was considered racist and intolerant.

People like this who live in glass houses....

Originally Posted by James Dewitt

Say you don't have one of those butt bombs tucked away do you?

Jeez, that's a new low. Clearly, you've run out of arguments when you have to resort to racist stereotyping.

Am I stereotyping you, yet?

Originally Posted by James Dewitt

Why do you hate God?

I wouldn't pray to the same God that YOU pray, my friend. It's like if I begin disliking someone, I don't join their clubs, celebrations or friend circles.