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This is unbelievable. Check out how our Prop 8 donations are being spent. The team of attorneys have NO IDEA how to prove that gay marriage is BAD for society. What are we PAYING these guys for!?!?!
A few examples from the transcript:
Let me know if you want me to head over to La La land and take over the litigation team. This is ludicrous!
A few examples from the transcript:
THE COURT: I'm asking you to tell me how it would harm opposite-sex marriages.
MR COOPER: All right.
COURT: All right. Let's play on the same playing field for once. Okay.
MR COOPER: Your Honor, my answer is: I don't know.
THE COURT: Does that mean -- does that mean if this is not determined to be subject to rational basis review, you lose?
MR. COOPER: No, your Honor.
THE COURT: Okay.
MR. COOPER: I don't believe it -- it does.
THE COURT: Just haven't figured out how you're going to win on that basis yet?
MR COOPER: All right.
COURT: All right. Let's play on the same playing field for once. Okay.
MR COOPER: Your Honor, my answer is: I don't know.
THE COURT: Does that mean -- does that mean if this is not determined to be subject to rational basis review, you lose?
MR. COOPER: No, your Honor.
THE COURT: Okay.
MR. COOPER: I don't believe it -- it does.
THE COURT: Just haven't figured out how you're going to win on that basis yet?
THE COURT: What are those potential adverse consequences?
MR. COOPER: Well, your Honor --
THE COURT: Has anybody identified them?
MR. COOPER: There have been some, yes, your Honor. For example, there seems to us to be little doubt that if the plaintiffs prevail here, and the definition of marriage is to be expanded to include same-sex couples, then the existing parallel institution of domestic partnership will also have to be expanded to include opposite-sex couples. And that parallel institution, with all the same benefits, will be available to opposite-sex couples. That's exactly how things are proceeding in The Netherlands. And in The Netherlands --
THE COURT: What's the effect of that? Is that harmful?
MR. COOPER: Well, your Honor, there do appear to be a number of adverse social consequences in The Netherlands from this. Domestic partnership is now used, apparently, more by heterosexual couples -- opposite-sex couples -- than is marriage. So marriage -- the effort to channel procreative activity into that institution has abated quite a bit. There's -- there are -- there are other socially unfortunate --
THE COURT: But --
MR. COOPER: Whether there's a causal relationship, your Honor --
THE COURT: Has that been harmful to the society in The Netherlands? Has it been harmful to children? What's the adverse effect?
MR. COOPER: Well, your Honor, again, I don't -- I don't have a presentation for you on that
MR. COOPER: Well, your Honor --
THE COURT: Has anybody identified them?
MR. COOPER: There have been some, yes, your Honor. For example, there seems to us to be little doubt that if the plaintiffs prevail here, and the definition of marriage is to be expanded to include same-sex couples, then the existing parallel institution of domestic partnership will also have to be expanded to include opposite-sex couples. And that parallel institution, with all the same benefits, will be available to opposite-sex couples. That's exactly how things are proceeding in The Netherlands. And in The Netherlands --
THE COURT: What's the effect of that? Is that harmful?
MR. COOPER: Well, your Honor, there do appear to be a number of adverse social consequences in The Netherlands from this. Domestic partnership is now used, apparently, more by heterosexual couples -- opposite-sex couples -- than is marriage. So marriage -- the effort to channel procreative activity into that institution has abated quite a bit. There's -- there are -- there are other socially unfortunate --
THE COURT: But --
MR. COOPER: Whether there's a causal relationship, your Honor --
THE COURT: Has that been harmful to the society in The Netherlands? Has it been harmful to children? What's the adverse effect?
MR. COOPER: Well, your Honor, again, I don't -- I don't have a presentation for you on that
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