[James Hutchins]

Re: Proof that Jesus is WHITE!

Where in the Bible did it say God was white? You have one task to tell me this. Just one do it and stop waving that red herring in front of my face.

Friend, if you'd only read the thread before making such stupid comments, less people could tell you are a retard.

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showpost.php?p=434822&postcount=5

[John Creeser]

Re: Proof that Jesus is WHITE!

Where in the Bible did it say God was white? You have one task to tell me this. Just one do it and stop waving that red herring in front of my face.

As Brother James pointed out, read it and weep.

Why are you so obsessed with being black anyway?

Anyway, less thinking, more worshiping.

[Ben Gay Pax]

Re: Proof that Jesus is WHITE!

That did not say at all God is white, or Jesus. In fact any real bible scholar just know that the color white symbolizes pureness. Meaning without sin or fault. Yes God is without sin or fault. And he has always been. Are you saying because you are white you are pure? When you preach that everyone (white, black, and all colors in between) are born with sin in their hearts, meaning they are not pure, leading to the conclusion they are not white? The color of Jesus' skin did not prove to people that he was perfect. His action and his direct relation to God made him perfect.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Proof that Jesus is WHITE!

That did not say at all God is white, or Jesus. In fact any real bible scholar just know that the color white symbolizes pureness. Meaning without sin or fault. Yes God is without sin or fault. And he has always been. Are you saying because you are white you are pure? When you preach that everyone (white, black, and all colors in between) are born with sin in their hearts, meaning they are not pure, leading to the conclusion they are not white? The color of Jesus' skin did not prove to people that he was perfect. His action and his direct relation to God made him perfect.

Friend, deny absolute proof all you want. It does not change anything.

[Ben Gay Pax]

Re: Proof that Jesus is WHITE!

There is no absolute proof presented to me. that is a picture painted by a Catholic painter in the Sistine Chapel. You know the Catholic one? But a mere human painting white,black, or whatever cannot even begin to portray the image of God. In the bible God is specifically portrayed by a burning bush, roaring fire and even wind. But i don't see you insisting that God looks like either of these things.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Proof that Jesus is WHITE!

Friend, I provided you with scripture (Courtesy of Noah Dint, RIP). However, you choose to ignore undisputed printed historical proof and instead, follow thinly guised conjecture.
I provided the image as a courtesy as based on your hateful comments, that is probably the best chance you will ever have of seeing Him. I on the other hand, will be dining with Him every night.

[John Creeser]

Re: Proof that Jesus is WHITE!

Friend, I provided you with scripture (Courtesy of Noah Dint, RIP). However, you choose to ignore undisputed printed historical proof and instead, follow thinly guised conjecture.
I provided the image as a courtesy as based on your hateful comments, that is probably the best chance you will ever have of seeing Him. I on the other hand, will be dining with Him every night.

Brother James, there are some "people" out there who simply deny all the facts when presented to them. Not only did we provide all the relevant scripture, prints and even a link to another site stating that Jesus was White...he still doesn't get it. (If we say it's peanut butter and it is, they say it's strawberry jam).

These are the people who believe the Earth is round and that spaceships can magically make it past the firmament to "outer space".

It's crazy, I know, but they really believe this stuff.

[Ben Gay Pax]

Re: Proof that Jesus is WHITE!

James you don't know that you are going to heaven at all. Only God knows that but wherever you go I hope it has soft food because you kept running your mouth and someone did the world a favor and smashed your teeth in. As for you John I'm sure you understand the concepts of gravity and spaceflight. Just say it's against your beliefs and not Crazy because it isn't. Also you are all racist slime and have no place telling anyone they are living their lives wrong and people are going to Hell. You are no God despite your habits of judging like one. Just go ahead and kick your heels up and wait for Jesus to come end your sorry, pathetic, meaningless lives.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Proof that Jesus is WHITE!

Ben, of course I am going to Heaven. God has told me so!

You know, your envy is not attractive.

Envy is so commonplace in our time. The less fortunate envy the wealthy. Young girls whose phone never rings envy those girls that seem to have the young men lined up to ask them out. Those boys that are not outstanding athletes envy those that are. Married couples that are unable to bear children envy those that can. There seems to be no end to the list of modern-day cases of envy.

No, not all of the people in the above-named categories are guilty of envying those that in some way appear to have it "better" than they do in life. But surely all will agree that envy abounds in the hearts of many. Just what is envy? It is "a feeling of discontent or resentment for someone else’s possessions or advantages" (Webster’s Dictionary And Thesaurus, 1997).

The Bible declares that envy is "the rottenness of the bones" (Proverbs 14:30 ). God also says, "Love does not envy" (1 Corinthians 13:4, NKJV). In view of such serious declarations, we would do well to consider some various aspects of envy from a biblical perspective.

Old Testament examples of envy: Envy has been around for a long time. One does not have to read far in the Bible to come across instances of it. Though the word "envy" is not specifically used in Genesis chapter four, the historical record leads to the conclusion that Cain envied his brother Abel. The same is true about Sarah envying Hagar when the latter was able to bear children, but Sarah could not (Genesis 16).

The Philistines envied Isaac because of his great possessions (Genesis 26:14). Rachel envied her sister Leah because she was able to bear children when Rachel could not (Genesis 30:1). Then there is the well-known story of Joseph’s older brothers envying him because of the preferential treatment that their father gave him (Genesis 37:11). Death later struck the camp of Israel when Korah and others envied Moses and Aaron (Psalm 106:16; Numbers 16:1-3,31-35).

These Old Testament examples of envy remind us that: (1) In many cases envy is over matters that pertain only to earthly, material affairs, and not to the spiritual; (2) Envy often raises its ugly head to cause division in one’s own family; (3) One can be despised and envied, even though he/she is not guilty of "rubbing it in" that he/she has something that others lack; (4) Envy can even infect the hearts of those that serve Jehovah.

New Testament examples of envy: It was "for envy" that the Jewish leaders delivered Jesus to Pilate (Mark 15:10 ). Envy caused unbelieving Jews to oppose the preaching of the gospel and stir up the minds of people against the cause of Christ (Acts 13:45 ; 17:5).

Sadly, envy also took its toll on the attitude of some of the first century Christians. The saints in Corinth were told, "For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?" (1 Corinthians 3:3). A few years later while Paul was imprisoned in Rome , he wrote, "Some indeed preach Christ even of envy and strife" (Philippians 1:15 ). How wonderful that men were preaching Christ (meaning to preach the gospel, Acts 8:4,5,25). How tragic that some did so with a heart filled with envy. Even today gospel preachers must be careful lest they fall into the trap of envying those evangelists that work with stronger churches, are paid more money, or are given more speaking invitations.

Some earthly consequences of envy: What is often associated with envy in this life? To what does it lead? The Bible says, "For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work" (James 3:16 ).

Violence is often the result of envy. Envy can produce such bitterness of spirit that a person might desire to do bodily harm to those whom he/she envies, even to the point of committing murder. Some of the Bible examples that we noted show this to be the case.

Envy also causes barriers to be erected between people (sometimes unbeknown to some of the parties involved). It can happen when two sisters in the flesh are "after" the same man and he chooses one instead of the other. It can happen when three brothers in Christ are being considered as overseers of a congregation, and two are chosen while the third is "left out." Envy disrupts peace in society, peace in the home, and peace in the church of the living God.

In some cases envy in the heart so dominates a person’s state of mind that he/she feels like it is impossible to function properly. People can continually dwell on the apparent blessings of others and be so distraught because they themselves don’t have such, that envy just "eats them up" (rottenness of the bones, Proverbs 14:30 ).

The eternal consequence of envy: Satan is most happy for people to be envious of one another. Do you know why? Two clear answers are found in Galatians chapter five. First, to envy others is a violation of God’s will. "Let us not be . . . envying one another" ( 5:26 ). Second, those involved in envyings (and refusing to repent of such) "shall not inherit the kingdom of God " ( 5:21 ). Satan knows that envy is a barrier to fellowship with God and faithful saints in this life, and that it will prevent a person from going to heaven. Sounds serious, does it not?

Avoiding and overcoming envy: What if I am right now struggling with envy in my heart? Is it possible for me to overcome it? In Titus 3:3 it is written that in the past some "were . . . living in envy," but according to verse five God later saved them. That means they must have given up their envy. Again, we read, "Wherefore laying aside all malice, and all guile, and hypocrisies, and envies, and all evil speakings, desire the sincere milk . . ." (1 Peter 2:1,2). If envy can be "layed aside," then it is possible to overcome it.

What can you and I do to help us avoid envy? First, we need to strive to heed God’s command, "Rejoice evermore" (1 Thessalonians 5:16 ). Determining to have a happy disposition can go a long way in preventing resentment of others. Second, we need to thank God for what we have, rather than dwell on the thought that someone else might have it "better" in some aspect of life. The Lord tells His children, "In everything give thanks’ (1 Thessalonians 5:18 ) and, "Be ye thankful" Colossians 3:15 ).

Third, like Paul, we must strive to be content with what we have, ". . . for I have learned, in whatsoever state I am, therewith to be content" (Philippians 4:11 ). Fourth, we need to keep in mind that God tells us not to envy others (1 Peter 2:1). In the Old Testament era God plainly charged the Jews not to be envious of evil doers: "Let not thine heart envy sinners . . . Be not thou envious against evil men, neither desire to be with them . . . neither be thou envious at the wicked" (Proverbs 23:17; 24:1,19). Fifth, surely the fact that envious people cannot inherit God’s kingdom (Galatians 5:21 ) ought to motivate us to hate and avoid envy.
Brothers and sisters, envy can destroy one’s mental health, destroy families, and destroy the harmony and unity of the church. If there are members of the church that have more material blessings or spiritual talents than we do, let us not envy them. Rather, let us thank God for them and pray that they will use their blessings to His glory, even as we with thankful hearts do our best to use what He has put in our hands for His holy cause.

This item originally appeared in http://www.conyerschurchofchrist.com

Do you know what the Bible says about your opinions (which are far from Biblical fact)?:
Isaiah 29:14 Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid.

Matthew 18:3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Luke 10:21 In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.

John 11:7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded
John 11:8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear unto this day.

John 12:39 Therefore they could not believe, because that Esaias said again,
John 12:40 He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.

1st Corinthians 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
1st Corinthians 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
1st Corinthians 1:19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.


Finally, your hateful comments only further our resolve in our Love of Jesus:
Matthew 5:10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Matthew 5:11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.

Matthew 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

Matthew 10:22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

Matthew 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

Luke 21:17 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake.

Romans 12:14 Bless them which persecute you: bless, and curse not.

1 Corinthians 4:12 And labour, working with our own hands: being reviled, we bless; being persecuted, we suffer it:

Luke 6:22 Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.

[Ben Gay Pax]

Re: Proof that Jesus is WHITE!

No, I am right and you are wrong.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Proof that Jesus is WHITE!

No, I am right and you are wrong.

First of all, this is NOT a debate forum. We're right and you're wrong, according to Jesus and the Holy Word of God. Please read THIS thread before making an even bigger fool of yourself.

Secondly, while the internets might seem to be "free" to you, this particular corner of the internets is a privately owned Christian forum. The rights you have on this forum are listed HERE. Please contact a Pastor immediately if you feel that any of your rights have been violated.

Finally, your unsaved opinions or tantrums are not even slightly of interest to us. We follow the Holy Word of God TO THE LETTER, and make no apologies for that. One of the most important commandments in the Bible tells us to avoid unsaved scum such as yourself. You wandered in here uninvited, and unwelcome .

If you want to debate people, THIS is the place to go.

Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire.

[Thomas Taylor]

Re: Proof that Jesus is WHITE!

James you don't know that you are going to heaven at all. Only God knows that but wherever you go I hope it has soft food because you kept running your mouth and someone did the world a favor and smashed your teeth in. As for you John I'm sure you understand the concepts of gravity and spaceflight. Just say it's against your beliefs and not Crazy because it isn't. Also you are all racist slime and have no place telling anyone they are living their lives wrong and people are going to Hell. You are no God despite your habits of judging like one. Just go ahead and kick your heels up and wait for Jesus to come end your sorry, pathetic, meaningless lives.

Dear Papist Ben. All we are doing is telling people the Truth. If you have not been Saved you are going to Hell. God tells us this through His Word, The Holy Bible (KJV 1611). Unlike papists and other "christians" we live our lives by the Bible literally. That is we follow every single word to the letter.

By the way God tells us to judge:

Leviticus 19:15 - Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honour the person of the mighty: [but] in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.

So once again you are wrong Mr Papist Ben. Go and read your Bible instead of kissing rings and worshipping statuary.

[Dutch Girl]

Re: Proof that Jesus is WHITE!

No, I am right and you are wrong.

You make yourself look bad by not using actual arguments here. I agree with you the people here are not nice to others, but they always succeed in using the Bible to prove their twisted point. If you think Christianity is not what they say it is, you have to find arguments and prove them wrong.

[Alphonse Alban]

Re: Proof that Jesus is WHITE!

Can you tell me where it says God is White.

In the bible.

Revelation 1:14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;

So, why it is such a problem for you that He is white? You really should stop your racist ways.

[Rev. Jamar D. Dodson]

Re: Proof that Jesus is WHITE!

No, I am right and you are wrong.

Jesus was immaculately conceived and born from a virgin. It doesn't really matter what the Israelites looked like. Technically, Mary was not even His biological mother. She was merely a pure and chaste incubator for the King of Kings. Likewise, Jospeh was not Jesus's biological father. Therefore, His appearance don't have to match up to their looks. Perhaps His siblings had large protruding Jewish noses, but it's highly doubtful God in the flesh did. It's actually unlikely that Joseph did either.

Now if we go back through the lineages we know that Jesus was biologically related to David on his earth father's (Joseph) side. God works in mysterious ways in that He both descends from Joseph's line while not being Joseph's son. And how is David described?

"And when the Philistine looked about, and saw David, he disdained him: for he was but a youth, and ruddy, and of a fair countenance."-- 1 Samuel 17:42

Fair and ruddy. And given the strict procreation laws of the time there is no doubt that the descendents up to Jesus would have the same countenance.

Baby Jesus most likely looked something like this.



Not some araby looking type