[ThrustingBoy]

Re: Cucumber, the proof of God’s existence Atheists

So basically, your argument is that a mathematician cannot prove that 3423423 + 343423 = 3766846 because it's not written in any math book.

A math book is not a Holy book as the Bible is for you. A mathematician believes that a math book teaching you how to get the right answer by giving you equations that will work with any numbers presented. But I have seen many times on this site that you believe that scripture contains ALL of the answers and if it is not in scripture you are quick to discard most of what other people say. But since it does not say in scripture that cucumbers were created by God for the reason this post states then you cannot say you have PROOF that they are here for that reason, but can only speculate.

[GOD=life]

Re: Cucumber, the proof of God’s existence Atheists

The Bible gives us a firm and rational basis. We can use that basis, through the process of logic, to come to certain conclusions. What matters is that we can trace this claim to Scripture. God did give us brains, after all.

Now your first thought may be "ah, but when others do it, then it's wrong?? hypocrisy!" That would not be correct: what false Christians do is ignore parts of the Bible or take the exact opposite to base their logic on.

When your premise is wrong, then the conclusion may or may not be wrong as well (if it's not wrong, then it's by accident, not logic).

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Cucumber, the proof of God’s existence Atheists

But I have seen many times on this site that you believe that scripture contains ALL of the answers

No we don't. We believe everything in the Bible is true and believe it to be the word of God. But that does not mean there is nothing else. E.g. my wife's pie recipes and the manual for my computer also contain useful information. It's just that the Holy Bible is the manual for life and even the afterlife. It's really a great book, you could read it if you wanted.

[ThrustingBoy]

Re: Cucumber, the proof of God’s existence Atheists

No we don't. We believe everything in the Bible is true and believe it to be the word of God. But that does not mean there is nothing else. E.g. my wife's pie recipes and the manual for my computer also contain useful information. It's just that the Holy Bible is the manual for life and even the afterlife. It's really a great book, you could read it if you wanted.

I see your point here but your wifes recipe books explain exactly how to make the recipes and the computer manual tells you exactly how to use the computer (unless they contain bad instructions). So like I said before, several times, this only makes sense if you say that you can assume or guess this is a possibility of why God created the cucumber but you cannot say for sure that you are correct.

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Cucumber, the proof of God’s existence Atheists

I see your point here but your wifes recipe books explain exactly how to make the recipes and the computer manual tells you exactly how to use the computer (unless they contain bad instructions). So like I said before, several times, this only makes sense if you say that you can assume or guess this is a possibility of why God created the cucumber but you cannot say for sure that you are correct.

What is your point? That we only can be sure about things in the Bible? There are many things we are sure about which are not in the Bible. And we can be sure about everything that is in the Bible. Both these things can be true at the same time, they do not exclude each other.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Cucumber, the proof of God’s existence Atheists

I see your point here but your wifes recipe books explain exactly how to make the recipes and the computer manual tells you exactly how to use the computer (unless they contain bad instructions). So like I said before, several times, this only makes sense if you say that you can assume or guess this is a possibility of whyGod created the cucumber but you cannot say for sure that you are correct.

We can't? Well read this my self polluting friend;

Genesis 1:11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.

Looks like God just POWNed your behind Thrustingboy.

[ThrustingBoy]

Re: Cucumber, the proof of God’s existence Atheists

We can't? Well read this my self polluting friend;

Genesis 1:11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.

Looks like God just POWNed your behind Thrustingboy.

I don't see how I got powned (I do like the word choice btw) . I am not trying to disprove God creating the cucumber, or anything on earth for that matter, it would be a pointless argument and in the end you just have to rely on faith. But you can only guess that a cucumber is some sort of trap, but cannot prove it.

[GOD=life]

Re: Cucumber, the proof of God’s existence Atheists

I don't see how I got powned

Do you see the awards/medal lists for us True Christians?

Now look at your own. There is little green smiley pointing at his head making the "I am crazy" gesture.

Now why do you think God assigned us medals and you an "I am crazy" smiley?

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Cucumber, the proof of God’s existence Atheists

I don't see how I got powned

Be a man for once ThrustingBoy and stop whining. You lost the argument. No shame in that

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Cucumber, the proof of God’s existence Atheists

Be a man for once ThrustingBoy and stop whining. You lost the argument. No shame in that

Somehow he does not seem like the type who will admit to being wrong.

[GOD=life]

Re: Cucumber, the proof of God’s existence Atheists

How about we tell him that if he surrenders to God, we will pretend he didn't get powned?

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Cucumber, the proof of God’s existence Atheists

What an excellent idea Brother!

[ThrustingBoy]

Re: Cucumber, the proof of God’s existence Atheists

You people cannot admit that you are wrong. You simply cannot prove that cucumbers exist for that reason, I have never had a problem with admitting when I am wrong, but I only do so when I am indeed wrong. You simply cannot prove why cucumbers are here.
And about those medals you all have compared to the ones I have that you said was provided by God. I am pretty sure that you guys put those there, not God. Do you think God controls the website also?

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Cucumber, the proof of God’s existence Atheists

You people cannot admit that you are wrong.

You are projecting your own limitations to your environment.

I have never had a problem with admitting when I am wrong

Can you point to a single posting from you on our forum where you admit you are wrong to prove this?

Do you think God controls the website also?

Yes. God controls everything, this website is no exception.

[True Disciple]

Re: Cucumber, the proof of God’s existence Atheists

You people cannot admit that you are wrong. You simply cannot prove that cucumbers exist for that reason, I have never had a problem with admitting when I am wrong, but I only do so when I am indeed wrong. You simply cannot prove why cucumbers are here.
And about those medals you all have compared to the ones I have that you said was provided by God. I am pretty sure that you guys put those there, not God. Do you think God controls the website also?

My dear friend, what is your problem? We have explained several times to you now how the combination of Scripture and logic tells us why cucumbers are created. You never refuted anything of what we said, but just keep stubbornly expressing doubt without addressing the main issue. You don't need to be ashamed that you are wrong.

And of course God controls the website. True, he uses intermediaries, like Pastor Ezekiel and Bobby-Joe, but they are just Tools in the Hands of God.