[Meek and Humble]

Re: Questions that evolutionist can’t answer

You haven't been reading the Bible clearly enough then, have you?

Where does the bible state that the earth is flat?

In the Bible the earth is a round flat object with ends and which is immovable and set on pillars.
Here God is imagined to draw a circle on the face of the waters to make the earth.

(Prov 8:26-27 NRSV) when he had not yet made earth and fields, or the world’s first bits of soil. When he established the heavens, I was there, when he drew a circle on the face of the deep,

A circle is of course a flat round object. Some would say that the ancient Hebrews had no word for sphere so they used circle, but that is not true. There is a Hebrew word for ball used in the bible. A flat round earth was intuitive to these primitive people. If you picture yourself in their place, it would not be too hard to imagine the earth as being round and flat as you turn around to trace the outline of the horizon where the sky seems to meet the earth.

Here God is imagined to sit above the circle of the earth looking down on it’s inhabitants who are small like grasshoppers.

(Isa 40:22 NRSV) It is he who sits above the circle of the earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers; who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, and spreads them like a tent to live in;

Again a circle is a flat two dimensional object and there was a Hebrew word for ball which would have been more appropriate if the author would have been aware of the earth’s spherical nature.

Here the author of Daniel writes of a dream of Nebuchadnezzar where a tree grows at the "center" of the earth. Assuming that the tree grew on the surface, this is most certainly the center of a flat earth as a spherical earth would have no center on it’s surface. Also notice that the tree grew so tall it’s top reached heaven and was visible to the "ends of the earth". So these verses indicate that Nebuchadnezzar and the author of Daniel pictured a flat earth as everyone else did in their time.

(Dan 4:10-11 NRSV) Upon my bed this is what I saw; there was a tree at the center of the earth, and its height was great. The tree grew great and strong, its top reached to heaven, and it was visible to the ends of the whole earth.

Here it is possible that this gospel author still imagined a flat earth as Jesus is able to see all the kingdoms of the world from a high mountain. This would not be possible on a spherical earth.



(Mat 4:8 NRSV) Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor;

Here the author of Job imagines that God could take the edges of the earth and shake the wicked out of it.

(Job 38:13 NIV) that it might take the earth by the edges and shake the wicked out of it?

Here the author of Job is saying something is longer than the earth. A flat earth with ends could be compared for length, but longer has no meaning for a spherical earth.

(Job 11:9 NRSV) Its measure is longer than the earth, and broader than the sea.

One end of a flat earth to the other end of a flat earth is mentioned here (a spherical earth had no ends).



(Deu 13:7 NRSV) any of the gods of the peoples that are around you, whether near you or far away from you, from one end of the earth to the other,

Again, some would say that the ends of the earth is not be taken literally and that would be true today, but the phrase is leftover from when people used to really believe the earth had ends, which was the case for the ancient Hebrews and most everyone else at that time.
Here is a few more verses that mention the ends of the earth



Deu 28:49, Deu 28:64, Deu 33:17, 1 Sam 2:10, Job 1:7, Job 28:24, Job 37:3, Psa 2:8, Psa 19:4, Psa 22:27, Psa 33:13, Psa 33:14, Psa 48:10, Psa 59:13, Psa 61:2, Psa 65:5, Psa 72:8

[Meek and Humble]

Re: Questions that evolutionist can’t answer

Where does it say the Earth doesn't revolve?

he Bible’s immovable earth set on pillars Here the earth is imagined to be set on pillars and immovable.

(Psa 93:1 NRSV) … He has established the world; it shall never be moved;
(1 Sam 2:8 NRSV) For the pillars of the earth are the Lord’s, and on them he has set the world.
(Isa 24:18 NRSV) or the windows of heaven are opened, and the foundations of the earth tremble.

[Meek and Humble]

Re: Questions that evolutionist can’t answer

The sun and other celestial bodies are not in space, but inside a solid dome that surround the earth:

The Bible’s solid sky dome
Here God is imagined to create a solid sky dome that separates the waters into two parts.
One would become the oceans and the other would remain above the solid sky dome to provide an explanation of where water came from to cause clouds and rain in the absence of the knowledge of evaporation.

(Gen 1:6-7 NRSV) And God said, "Let there be a dome in the midst of the waters, and let it separate the waters from the waters."

So God made the dome and separated the waters that were under the dome from the waters that were above the dome. And it was so.
Here is another verse which mentions the water above the sky dome.

(Psa 148:4 NRSV) Praise him, you highest heavens, and you waters above the heavens!

Here celestial bodies are attached to this sky dome.

(Gen 1:14-17 NRSV) And God said, "Let there be lights in the dome of the sky to separate the day from the night; and let them be for signs and for seasons and for days and years, and let them be lights in the dome of the sky to give light upon the earth." And it was so. God made the two great lights–the greater light to rule the day and the lesser light to rule the night–and the stars.
God set them in the dome of the sky to give light upon the earth,

Notice that the lights, the Sun, the Moon, and the stars are set inside the sky dome.
Here it is mentioned that the sky dome is hard.

(Job 37:18 NRSV) Can you, like him, spread out the skies, hard as a molten mirror?
(Prov 8:28 NRSV) when he made firm the skies above, …

God is imagined to walk on top of the sky dome.

(Job 22:14 NRSV) Thick clouds enwrap him, so that he does not see, and he walks on the dome of heaven.’

[Meek and Humble]

Re: Questions that evolutionist can’t answer

The sun moves around the earth, not the other way around

Joshua commands the Sun to stand still in the sky
Here Joshua was imagined to have commanded the Sun and the Moon to stand still over particular geographic locations like a helicopter could be imagined to hover over a particular mountain or valley as if the Sun and the Moon were only a few miles high instead of 93 million (Sun) and 1/4 million (Moon) miles away. To the author the Sun and the Moon were attached to a rotating solid sky dome, just a few miles above his head.

(Josh 10:12-13 NRSV) On the day when the LORD gave the Amorites over to the Israelites, Joshua spoke to the LORD; and he said in the sight of Israel, "Sun, stand still at Gibeon, and Moon, in the valley of Aijalon."
And the sun stood still, and the moon stopped, until the nation took vengeance on their enemies. Is this not written in the Book of Jashar? The sun stopped in midheaven, and did not hurry to set for about a whole day.

[Tingly Bill]

Explain the Loch Ness Monster threw evolution.
I find it hard to believe that a whole species can sustain itself from so few individuals as observed in Loch Ness. Sounds like a hole in your theory to me

hold on, are you saying that you believe there is a real species called the loch ness monster?


also, the sun does not revolve around the earth, the earths mass is so much smaller than that of the sun that it could not possibly exert a sufficient gravitational field. its like saying that the earth revolves around the moon, if smaller masses did indeed orbit large masses then the sun would also orbit the moon.

sorry, if large masses did indeed orbit smaller masses

[Meek and Humble]

Re: Questions that evolutionist can’t answer

hold on, are you saying that you believe there is a real species called the loch ness monster?

The Bible mentions sea monsters many times. There's no reason to believe there isn't one living in Scotland.

also, the sun does not revolve around the earth, the earths mass is so much smaller than that of the sun that it could not possibly exert a sufficient gravitational field. its like saying that the earth revolves around the moon, if smaller masses did indeed orbit large masses then the sun would also orbit the moon.

sorry, if large masses did indeed orbit smaller masses

To summarize the above, "Blah, blah, blah, I hate God and think I'm smarter than Him."

The Bible tells us clearly that the sun revolves around the earth. Your doubting just because you give into the blind faith of scientific THEORIES about the sun being larger than the earth, about the existence of outer space and gravity. There's no evidence for any of these things, just THEORIES!

Well I have faith in what God tells me. He created the world, He knows how it is ordered and wrote it down in the only science book you ever need to read - the Bible!

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Questions that evolutionist can’t answer

Our own Rev Jim Osborne has two questions for the secularists out there.

Why don't chemicals think?
If our brains are just a mishmash of biochemistry, how come chemicals like gasoline or bug spray can't think? Rev. Jim Osborne 1/11/10

Why don't we have natural clothing?
People have been wearing clothes for thousands of years. Why haven't our bodies evolved natural clothes that come out of our skin then? Rev. Jim Osborne 1/11/10

We are waiting to hear your response.

[True Disciple]

Re: Questions that evolutionist can’t answer

Another question suddenly occurred to me:

Why do you murder your own unborn infants?
As we all know, evolutionists belong to the same God-hating, liberal religion as murderous abortionists. So, if evolution were true, behaviour of good care and encouragement of your own offspring would be favored. Why, then, has the sickly desire in people to kill their own children not been weeded out by natural selection generations ago?

[Simon Tam]

Re: Questions that evolutionist can’t answer

Sir Isaac Newton said and I quote: "The order and complexity that I find in nature could not have come about by chance. It, I feel was created by a higher intelligence. That intelligence, I contend is the God of the Bible."

[John Scopes]

Re: Questions that evolutionist can’t answer

Sir Isaac Newton said and I quote: "The order and complexity that I find in nature could not have come about by chance. It, I feel was created by a higher intelligence. That intelligence, I contend is the God of the Bible."

Newton was a math nerd, he did not have detailed knowledge of natural biologic processes. It is also debatable as to whether or not he suffered a concussion when the apple hit him on the head.

[Alsnoy]

Re: Questions that evolutionist can’t answer

The questions you ask are to stupid to answer
just read a biology/sience book istead of just saying evolution didn't happen

these questions just show how stupid you are. your just listing things you don't know and explain them by god
bud there is a logical answeer to all your life questions and it isn't god! It's cald evolution!

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Questions that evolutionist can’t answer

Newton was a math nerd, he did not have detailed knowledge of natural biologic processes. It is also debatable as to whether or not he suffered a concussion when the apple hit him on the head.

The questions you ask are to stupid to answer
just read a biology/sience book istead of just saying evolution didn't happen

these questions just show how stupid you are. your just listing things you don't know and explain them by god
bud there is a logical answeer to all your life questions and it isn't god! It's cald evolution!

Do I detect a schism between monkey worshipers? One of you can be a Catlick monkey worshiper and the other a protestant monkey worshiper.

[Jack-Robert-Smitty]

Re: Questions that evolutionist can’t answer

Adam and eve to dont exist simple explanation for simple people. At the time people could not explain things as well. I priest told me that! Evolution is fact deal with it.

[GOD=life]

Re: Questions that evolutionist can’t answer

I priest told me that!

Catlicks aren't Christians and cannot comment on the Bible with authority.

[Alsnoy]

Re: Questions that evolutionist can’t answer

so can comment with authority on the bibble?
or you can interpreted it and I can't?

all those comment on the pope(not that i like him) bud wasn't petrus the first pope? and he's in your bible, isn't he?
who made you the people of god I thought that where the jews?