[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Questions that evolutionist can’t answer

Evolution doesn't hold that humans are descended from monkeys, rather, it holds that humans & other primates had a common ancestor. Think about it like this: Americans are mostly descended from Europeans. Yet there are still Europeans. In this analogy, the older group of Europeans represent the common ancestor. Some of these people left & became Americans, some stayed where they were & became modern europeans. Get it?

No. European's are always trying to sneak into the US to take our jobs because they want to be Americans. Why aren't monkies doing this?

Most people who accept evolution don't believe Adam really existed. If Adam did exist, he would have been created rather than have evolved, so his extra rib would possess no evolutionary advantage. Rather, it would just have been there 'cos God wanted it there.

So you admit Adam's rib is evidence for creation?

[snowbunny]

Re: Questions that evolutionist can’t answer

I don't feel like reading all 85 pages....but I'll play along...

Account for the missing land sharks
If we evolved from fish, why haven’t sharks, who according to your theory predate us, evolved into land animals and are hunting us?

There is no set of rules for how evolution works. Mutation happens purely by chance. Sharks remain largely in the same form that they did millions of years ago because it works. Mutations only survive to produce change if they are advantageous. However given the diversity in sharks (consider the hammer head) show that there have been changes and what works well sticks around (e.g. fusiform shape). Sharks didn't need to evolve to land animals because they had plenty of food in the sea. Here is an example of a possible explanation for fish out of the sea... One species of fish was being out competed by another species. It found that plants near the shore were more abundant. It and its progeny spent more time near the shore. The progeny that were able to get a little bit closer to the land and spend more time out of the water were better able to get those plants. Over several (thousands) of generations mutations that encoded longer fins allowed those individuals to get more food in turn survived and reproduced, propagating those mutations. Eventually they made it onto land. New niches were found and species in turn began to specialize. Several species of fish, arthropods, etc. Without taking a whole 10 pages to explain this further, you would have also had carnivorous fish that followed. Former herbivores may have turned carnivorous. But sharks who already dominated their food chain wouldn't necessarily need to follow the migration to land.

Explain floods on Mars with out the Great Flood of the Bible
If Noah’s flood didn’t happen then how do explain the evidence of a great flood on Mars?[/
There is plenty of evidence that a great flood did take place on Earth. Flood myths are prevalent among all creation myths suggesting that it may have occurred. What does that have to do with Mars?

Account for fools
If evolution is survival of the fittest then how do explain the continued survival of unsuccessful groups of stupid humans?
I often wonder that myself.... How are you still surviving? But the simple answer is that stupidity doesn't prevent humans from reproducing. If they can make it to reproductive maturity and they can find someone who is willing to have sex they can have kids and if they can manage to keep them alive to sexual maturity, the cycle can continue. In fact I would venture to say that stupid people tend to reproduce more effectively than smart people.

Explain why human's aren't perfect
If we are evolving why don’t we have third arms now?

Maybe one day we will...but most likely not. Human evolution is a victim to our own intelligence. Why do we need a third arm when we can build a machine to do the work of a third arm? We may end up choosing our own evolution. Perhaps our evolution is fated to be through intelligence and creativity and not through physical adaptation. But we can see evidence of evolution in humans. Skin color, eye color, face shape etc. is seen in different races. Dark skin was advantageous to native africans. Blue eyes and light hair most likely developed through preference by sexual partners in Northern Europeans.

Explain infant murder
If we are evolved to nature our young then how do you secular humanist explain your groups pathological desire to kill yours with abortions?

Why do hamster's eat their young? Often because the hamster instinctively feels it is not able to care for its young. Same with humans, although it is a conscious choice. Again we are a victim of our own sentience.

Why no bodies?
If humanity was roughly a million people living at one time. If the human race is 150,000 years old like you maintain that means there have been 150,000,000,000 who lived before the current era. If each corpse takes up 3 by 6 feet then that means the remains of human ancestors cover 1350 billion square feet of the earth! Why are we not buried under the remains of 150 billion people?

Decay and decomposition, the cycle of life. Cremation. Humans don't always bury their dead. Same reason we don't have millions of animal remains around.


Were do angels and demons fit into the Evolutionist tree of life?
Please explain the earliest common ancestor with all animals, angles and demons. What is their ancestry and transitional form?

Well angles and demons are mythical creatures. Sorry but they are. They are not part of our ecosystem and therefore cannot have a common ancestor to us.

Explain talking snake in the garden threw evolution.
Please tell me when serpents lost the power of speech and the process with which it happened. Please include any fossil of impaired speech snakes.
The snake didn't talk. Animals don't talk. Except in Harry Potter. Which is fiction. And so is most of the bible. I won't say the rest of what I'm thinking.

Explain the Loch Ness Monster threw evolution.
I find it hard to believe that a whole species can sustain itself from so few individuals as observed in Loch Ness. Sounds like a hole in your theory to me
There is no proof that the Loch Ness monster exists. It is very doubtful that it does given that the lake could not sustain a breeding population. But no biologist who has half a functional brain believes in Nessie.

If evolution is true, then why don't trees stretch up to the stratosphere?
Scientists say that trees grow taller and taller because natural selection forces them to compete for light with other trees. However, they have supposedly had hundreds of millions of years to evolve, but the tallest tree in the world is a mere 370 feet tall.

If evolution were true, we should be living in pitch dark, because the entire troposphere would be encased in a big sheet of tree leaves. Asked by Pastor Billy-Rueben

Gravity, resource limitation, the ability of trees to grow above certain elevations due to gas limitations (think about the tree line in alpine areas).

Why don't we act like monkeys
If we are evolved from monkeys why do we behave like them; service our selves constantly an throw our feces about? Asked by Eight or Better

Uh, cause we evolved. Behavior evolves as well as form.

Why are there still monkey?
Evolution predicts the stronger species (humans) would crush and exterminate the weaker species(monkeys) it evolved from. Asked by ChristianSoldier

Evolution of one form does not mean extinction of another. Also we do not evolve from a species, it's more of a splitting off. Why do we have to crush the "weaker" species? Evolution theory says nothing about eliminating the predecessor. Our evolution took us one way, monkey's another.

Please account for quick extinctions.
According to evolution theory it takes millions of years for a species to go extinct. Yet we have examples of species dying out in a few hunderd years like the Dodo. Please account for this.

The Dodo was hunted to extinction. Catastrophic events. A volcano erupts and wipes out the habit of a species who lives only in it's path. Think about this one a little harder and don't say that God is the source of all natural disaster and he wanted it that way. That's is the lamest excuse ever. Like calling electricity magic.

Were are ancestors and fossilizes remains of the dragon, satyr and unicorn?
I would say the lack of fossils for these three creatures presents a clear gap in the record.

Cause they are mythical creatures. Hard to find fossil evidence of something that never existed.

Why are no human ancestors mentioned in The Bible?
The very fact that Neandertals, Homo-Erectuces are not mentioned in The Bible proves they are made up. I mean you would think God would have mentioned them 6,000 years ago when He wrote The Bible. duh.

Cause the bible was written by man. I know what you are going to say, save it. Neanderthals and Homo erectus came a long time and died out long before written history.

Explain wasps with evolution.
Wasp paralyze spiders and then implant their young in them to feed on living, but helpless insect. If evolution was true them spiders would have anti-wasp poison in their blood. But they don’t. The only way you can get such a horrific death as those countless spiders suffer is threw the power of God.

Spiders haven't caught up in the evolutionary arms race yet. There may not be a compound that a spider could produce to protect them that would not also kill the spider as well. "Them" spiders may eventually catch up. Or not.

How could Cain could procreate with his sisters if evolution was true?
If can was getting busy with his sister like The Bible relates then the human race should be a race of inbreed deformities like the English Royal Family. Instead we see the general population is healthy. This can only happen if Cain and his sister were of the pure first generation after Adam not corrupted by sins yet.
Well I don't think that Cain and his sis weren't the only ones. Really they were not, I swear. We can trace the genetic history of our race to a bottleneck event were there were as few as a couple hundred individuals. And even if it came down to two indivuals, there are these wonderful thing scall segregation, independent assortment, variation and mutation. Lethal and detrimental mutations in that era would prevent them from reproducing. Genes would mutate through generations and produce variation.


The Genealogy of Henry III
The "Evidence From Genealogy" display, donated by Edgar Nurnberg, is one of the more favorite displays of our visitors. These scrolls from the Lambeth Palace in England trace the genealogy of King Henry the 6th back to Adam and Eve.
Asked by Heathen Basher 8/18/09

It was political. Make up some documents to say that you are descendant from the first man and people will agree that you really should be King.

Unicorn Horns
What so-called "evoloutionary role" does the horn on a unicorn play? I was taught evolutionary theory, and I can't figure it out! Asked by H. Montague Worthington's 8/24/09

Again, mythical creature. But narwhals....well I don't know much about their behavior so I can't tell you a practical use. It may be as simple as preference by the other sex. There are plenty of features on animals that are completely useless save to attract the opposite sex. Like plumage on a peacock.

Transitional fossils for single celled organism.
The Darwinists would have us believe that life evolved from single-celled organisms to more complicated forms. If that's true, then we should expect to see intermediaries between organisms with one cell and organisms with millions/billions/trillions of cells, but that's exactly what we don't see. Where are all the two-celled organisms that we should see if evolution was true? Where are all the five-celled organisms or twelve-celled organisms? Are we supposed to believe that 50 million amoebas randomly assembled into a fully formed flatworm by chance? Asked by Pastor Billy-Reuben. 8/25/09

Well...fossilization is a very rare event. Otherwise we would have fossils from every form of life, but the requirements for it to occur are not common. Pair that with something that is microscopic and tends not to fossilize at all unless you have trillions of cells together and the physical evidence was never preserved.

Why is there still mud?
Darwinists claim that life originate in mud. If you really believe that a big pile of mud turned into a fish, which sprouted legs and arms and turned into monkeys, which turned into human beings, then you're more stupid than I thought. For a start, if that's true, why's there still mud around, and why do babies not have tails like monkeys when they're born? Asked by Rachel Pierce 11/4/09

This question is so stupid I have a hard time not yelling at my computer screen. Well mud is what happens when you mix water with dirt. So why is there still dirt...well we would have much to stand on if it disappeared now would we? In fact with out rock, dirt, metal, etc. we wouldn't have a planet. We wouldn't be able to sustain life.

What I think you are asking is about what we call the "primordial soup". When the earth was young it was a mix of chemicals, elements and such. With the right temperature, available elements and pH they will spontaneously bond due to their chemical properties. They bond in ways that they like to bond. They create amino acids, nucleic acids, lipids, membranes, proteins and DNA. Through billions of years they eventually were incorporated with each other. It is mysterious and wonderful, complex and confusing. And we can reproduce some of these early events in a lab.

Why don't chemicals think?
If our brains are just a mishmash of biochemistry, how come chemicals like gasoline or bug spray can't think? Rev. Jim Osborne 1/11/10

Why don't plants think? Cause they lack a brain. A organized group of specialized cells communicating through biochemistry producing electrical impulses.

Why don't we have natural clothing?
People have been wearing clothes for thousands of years. Why haven't our bodies evolved natural clothes that come out of our skin then? Rev. Jim Osborne 1/11/10

We went the opposite direction, we had clothing (fur) but we evolved them away.

What was the "evolutionary advantage" of Adam's extra rib?
Why do women have an extra rib than men like the Bible tells us. asked by Virginia D. Templeton 6/8/07

While there are instances of an extra rib (http://radiographics.rsna.org/content/19/1/105.full.pdf) and even more interestingly it is more prominent in females, it is a genetic deformity. I for instance do not have an extra rib.

What is the evolutionary advantage of demonic possession
Please explain how demonic possesions humans, horses, dogs and pigs helps them to be a more successful species. asked by Virginia D. Templeton 6/8/07

Well....if you choose to believe in the paranormal, that is something that is completely asside from evolution. It is other wordly, inexplicable. It is not something that can be explained by evolution because it is mutually exclusive from evolution. Apples and oranges.

Do you believe that Jesus was more primitive and less "fit" than today's slugs and worms?
Christ earthly ministery was 2,000 years ago, a more primitive time than now. asked by Virginia D. Templeton 6/8/07
By slugs and worms, I assume you mean the poor people who live off of welfare and don't work. Well yeah they irritate me as well. That is a cultural change. And if I could blame anyone for them, I blame Christ. Christ taught us to be charitable, to help those in need. If we quit helping them they will eventually starve to death or get off their lazy behinds and work. But that wouldn't be very Christian of us, would it?

Fitness as a term is misunderstood. It doesn't mean that they can go run a mile. It means that they have the mutational advantage to obtain food, survive in their environment, survive to reproduce and the most important, but also most left out is that their PROGENY survive to reproduce.


What did the rocks and lightning evolve from?
According to evolutionary theory, all life evolved out of rocks and lightning,Please show the evolutionary linage and transitional forums for rocks and lighting. asked by Virginia D. Templeton 6/8/07

transitional forums....uh....we did not evolve from rocks and lightening, please provide reference of a biologist who knows their rear from a (well...you know the rest... )who claims this.

Well since I'm sure you mean transitional FORMS....and you can't have transitional forms for something that can't reproduce. I'll just leave it at that.



Please show the disorder inherent in evolution
Scientific "laws" regarding thermodynamics and entropy say that things go from ordered to disordered. ?]How do you explain evolution in light of this. asked by Virginia D. Templeton 6/8/07
Well those are laws regarding physics/chemistry and are talking about energy, particularly transfer of energy. Evolution as a process is not subject to those laws. I would recommend actually reading a little bit more about the subject of Scientific laws before attaching them to everything in science.

Where are those transitional forms???
asked by Virginia D. Templeton 6/8/07

It is indeed surprising that we have as many transitional forms as we do. Fossilization is incredibly rare, and then finding those fossils is not easy to do either...Think of all the places on earth we have to look! Fortunately we have geologists who study the earth's rocks and sedimentary layers to help us. But we do have extant species that we can get DNA from. We can look at closely related species and track the mutations. We can determine the function of a protein encoded by a gene and see how it changes the form of a species. It would be wonderful to have a video to watch how every species on earth has changed, but we don't. So like a detective at the scene of a crime we must work backward from what we do know to glean the answer.

Well evolutionist, please give it your best shot. Even one question will be helpful. I look forward to your answers. __________________

I'm sure you will call me a heathen, evil and that I am going to hell for this. I am not an atheist. I believe in a higher power, the mysterious and unexplainable. My personal spiritual journey will be to find out what that is. Until then I cannot live my life to conform to some archaic thinking, but live my life as a kind and honest person. My Christian upbringing taught me that Christ knows we are "only human" and that we will make mistakes. He preached forgiveness and a loving God. Guess I'll find out when I die won't I? The good news is that if I face eternal damnation so does everyone I love so we will be in the pits of hell together. I digress....

Looking forward to your response to my answers...

[James Hutchins]

Re: Questions that evolutionist can’t answer

I don't feel like reading all 85 pages....but I'll play along...

tl;dr


I digress....

Looking forward to your response to my answers...

Welcome young lady. When did you accept Jesus as your personal savior?

[snowbunny]

Re: Questions that evolutionist can’t answer

Welcome young lady. When did you accept Jesus as your personal savior?

I am most certain I view Christ in a different way than the members here. I will keep my personal feeling about him to myself as my religious beliefs are deeply personal.

I take it you did not read the whole of my response however...

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Questions that evolutionist can’t answer

I am most certain I view Christ in a different way than the members here. I will keep my personal feeling about him to myself as my religious beliefs are deeply personal.

I take it you did not read the whole of my response however...

If there is one place you can comfortably discuss your personal relationship with Our Lord Jesus Christ, this is it. Matter of fact, God TELLS us to!

(1 John 1:3) "That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ."



YiC,

Zech

[Thomas Dalton]

Re: Questions that evolutionist can’t answer

Dear Black Wizard. Why do you atheists always believe it's better to teach someone bullcrap than waiting for someone who could explain it better?
Come back when you mastered your precious science, and then we'll have a real discussion.

Ahoy hoy. Hopefully I can help

"If humans evolved from monkeys, why are there still monkeys and why aren't they transforming into humans?"

Evolution doesn't hold that humans are descended from monkeys, rather, it holds that humans & other primates had a common ancestor. Think about it like this: Americans are mostly descended from Europeans. Yet there are still Europeans. In this analogy, the older group of Europeans represent the common ancestor. Some of these people left & became Americans, some stayed where they were & became modern europeans. Get it?

So.... There should still be half-monkeys around, according to your theory? Don't tell me negroes are the missing link between monkeys and humans, since they can't breed with each other. Or might your example be oversimplified and retarded? If transitional states aren't consumed in the process of becoming a new species, we should find more of them.

"If all life evolved out of rocks and lightning, what did the rocks and lightning evolve from?"

There is no scientific theory, evolutionary or otherwise, that states life evolved out of rocks & lightning. Basically, the most commonly held scientific theory for the origin of life is this: Some proteins, when left to their own devices, self replicate. On primitive earth there were some of these proteins kicking about & self replicating. (now, note that you can't apply your 'where did these proteins evolve from' to this, because these proteins aren't actually alive. Theyre just naturally occuring molecules that replicate themselves.) Anyway, over time (a LOT of time) the proteins began to conform to the laws of natural selection & became more complex. Until, eventually we had single celled organisms meeting the definition of 'life'.

Seriously, did you ever follow a biology class? Even though I'm home schooled, I know the flaw in here. How do you think proteins can self replicate? Hint: Proteins can't store information. How should an argenine know where to incorporate a new argenine? Why don't we have self replicating proteins anymore?

"Scientific "laws" regarding thermodynamics and entropy say that things go from ordered to disordered. How do you explain evolution in light of this?"

These laws are mostly talking about heat loss within a closed system, e.g. You make a cup of tea, leave it for half an hour & it goes cold. Rather than anything to do with the origin or continuation of life, which is what evolution deals with.

Now I gotta ask if you ever followed a course that was about entropy. Hint: It's not limited to heat.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Questions that evolutionist can’t answer

[COLOR=Purple]I'm sure you will call me a heathen, evil and that I am going to hell for this. I am not an atheist. I believe in a higher power, the mysterious and unexplainable. My personal spiritual journey will be to find out what that is.

Welcome to the forums, dear!

I think that's interesting that you believe in a "higher power" but not in the Lord God. May I ask, from what do you get your information about this "higher power" god or gods? We at Landover Baptist Church Forum dig deep into the living Word of God using His only accurate Bible, the King James Version, 1611. Since the KJV doesn't talk about this amorphous "higher power" that is mysterious and unexplainable, I wonder if you've simply made yours up. Perhaps it makes you feel better to interpret unrelated events as being connected somehow. Perhaps you feel happy thinking there is this mysterious thing watching out for you, keeping you from twisting your ankle, finding the perfect parking spot. I'm curious as to what it is because it must be unique, coming from your imagination alone.

Until then I cannot live my life to conform to some archaic thinking, but live my life as a kind and honest person.

Well how blessed you are to have come to the right place! You'll learn all about who God really is and to know what Christ really wants from you.

My Christian upbringing taught me that Christ knows we are "only human" and that we will make mistakes. He preached forgiveness and a loving God.

I see by "Christian upbringing" you really mean "False Christian upbringing." Christ preached Salvation for the Righteous, not some hippie love-fest mumbo-jumbo.

Guess I'll find out when I die won't I? The good news is that if I face eternal damnation so does everyone I love so we will be in the pits of hell together. I digress....

Oh no, True Christians™ cannot go to Hell. God has promised He has redeemed us and we know we can trust Him. I would be happy to know we could count on you as one of the saved, but if you choose to wait until you die to know the truth, you will be sorry because there's a No Return Policy in Hell.

[Seth Campbell]

Re: Questions that evolutionist can’t answer

I am most certain I view Christ in a different way than the members here. I will keep my personal feeling about him to myself as my religious beliefs are deeply personal.

I take it you did not read the whole of my response however...

Translation: I make it up as I go along

Why do you hate Jesus so much that you would spit in his face and refuse to read his book?

[PeterEgan]

Re: Questions that evolutionist can’t answer

I am a full believer in God's creation. That said, I am also a believer that those who use abysmally flawed logic in an effort to proselytize damage the global effort to spread the Good News to as many people as possible in hopes that they will be saved.

When the logic doesn't even add up for fellow Christians, why would a non-Christian "see the light" after reading or upon hearing an argument that makes no sense in terms of the logic in between the premises and the conclusion?

The larger impact of such banter is a reinforcement of the bigoted anti-Christian stereotypes held by many in need of being saved of the members of our religion being ignorant, inbred hillbillies who lack the ability to think for (our) selves.

I'm not saying you shouldn't be actively trying to argue God's involvement in the creation of the physical universe. I am urging you to reconsider the strategy involved, and construct an argument that stands to reason.

Our God is a logical God, and every word used by the Father in addressing Moses, Noah and other Old Testament figures, as well as every word uttered by Our Savior Jesus Christ, is consistent with infallible logic that is only substantiated by modern science.

There is no need to use arguments such as 'If we evolved from fish, we therefore must have three arms instead of two' (paraphrasing an argument used by another commentator in this thread). It does not stand to reason that if hypothetically humans evolved from other life forms without the hand of God, that we would therefore have three arms. The conclusion simply does not follow, and it damages the credibility of other Christians who are using more accurate, not to mention persuasive arguments.

We have the truth on our side, and therefore need not exaggerate or resort to fallacious logic in our efforts to introduce Jesus to those who lack the good fortune of having come to know and accept Him as their savior.

This is not meant to be an attack on the commentator, however I fully stand by the point that I am making, and believe that Christianity would be much better off if those debating its merits did so using sound reasoning in which the conclusion of the argument is a valid sum of the premises used to arrive at said conclusion.

We must articulate our beliefs effectively, and we must to so in a way that persuades people we're right, rather than providing them with ammunition with which they can use to discredit us and attack our credibility on the basis of ignorance embarrassingly poor logic.

[Didymus Much]

Re: Questions that evolutionist can’t answer

...Our God is a logical God, and every word used by the Father in addressing Moses, Noah and other Old Testament figures, as well as every word uttered by Our Savior Jesus Christ, is consistent with infallible logic that is only substantiated by modern science...

Let's cut to the chase: how much of the KJV do you deny?

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Questions that evolutionist can’t answer

I'll go further than that. How much of The Bible in any translation do you deny?

Although the differences between one "translation" and another are not usually very numerous, they ARE very significant, leaving out important words & verses, in accordance with their agenda, or deliberately mistranslating passages to conform with their own views.

But I'll disregard that if you'll just answer the question.

For example, Jonah was commanded by God to preach in Nineveh. Jonah sailed off in the opposite direction, a storm blew up, he was thrown overboard and swallowed by a large fish. The fish vomited him up and he then did go to Nineveh which as a consequence was spared from destruction. As Jonah sat outside the city by night God caused a gourd to grow up over his head and also a worm to destroy the plant before sunrise so that Jonah got sunstroke the following day.

Jonah 4:11 And should not I spare Nineveh, that great city, wherein are more than sixscore thousand persons that cannot discern between their right hand and their left hand; and also much cattle?

Now do you believe that or not? And so on for every other account in The Bible? [I've linked to the KJV]

I don't think you do. Even the false "church" of Rome understands that most so-called "churches" today are little more than a rabble of sects and that the more people just make up things for themselves the more sects there will be!

EXAMPLE FROM THE CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA

quoting J. H. Blunt† [Heresy expert de jour]:
"The mere existence of such confessions of faith [as The Apostles' Creed] as binding on all or any of the members of the Christian community is inconsistent with the great principles on which the Protestant bodies justified their separation from the Church, the right of private judgment … the experience of three hundred years has proved to us what may not have been foreseen by their originators, that they have had a diametrically opposite result, and have been productive not of union but of variance."

please bear in mind that this is a Catholic encyclopedia commenting on Protestantism

Protestantism claims roundly 100 millions of Christians, products of the Gospel and the fancies of a hundred reformers, people constantly bewailing their "unhappy divisions" etc..
† •Link . •txt file

Needless to say I do not endorse anything published in a Romish encyclopedia. Nothing they do is Scriptural, so they don't actually have any link with Christianity at all: "Tradition" is all that remains to them and it is not any sort of tradition from The Bible.

When I read what you posted:

PeterEgan
We must articulate our beliefs effectively, and we must to so in a way that persuades people we're right, rather than providing them with ammunition with which they can use to discredit us and attack our credibility

I was immediately reminded of that passage from the Papists' encyclopedia and must remind you that our beliefs are not cooked up in our heads on the fanciful basis of "experience" or "feelings" but are explicitly stated in The Bible. When we articulate our beliefs effectively we articulate Scripture. We know that satan blinds many minds to The Truth, and many will reject the reality of God's Revelation. They might choose to follow the Upanishads instead, or become a satanist. We don't choose for them, but we are obliged to present our beliefs accurately and it is due to the "Religion is Feeling" brigade that so many sects flourish today. It is because they too, reject God's Inerrant Word: The Bible.

Do you believe it, Peter?

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Questions that evolutionist can’t answer

Our God is a logical God

Goodness Peter, I don't know that I can agree with this. After all, our LORD created light on the first day of creation (Genesis 1:3), but created the sun and the moon and all the stars (Genesis 1:14) on the fourth day. That doesn't sound logical to me, but it does sound miraculous. I would say our LORD is miraculous. For one to hear the Word and be wooed by the Spirit doesn't take logic, it takes God. Did you read something about Paul's conversion on the Road to Damascus occurring because of a logical dialog? (hint, read the Acts of the Apostles, you'll find it's not there)

We must articulate our beliefs effectively, and we must to so in a way that persuades people we're right

Why "must" we do it your way? Do you really think the God who called down the Ten Plagues can't get His point across unless we do it your way? Do you honestly think that if we don't play nice and turn over on our backs then people won't be able to see the glory and majesty of the Word of God?

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Questions that evolutionist can’t answer

These soft Christians appeasing the God-haters with their watered down "Good News" message which actually translates to "I censored out all the bits you won't like or you'll find far-fetched, please be my friend and give me a free ride through life by calling me a priest and I'll tell you you won't really go to Hell and you'll feel better now for believing that" make me sick.

They want to live in the here and now with people thinking they're clever because they have all the answers to the afterlife question that should be being filled with God's message. And WHY do they do it? If they were Catholics we'd know they wanted to have sex with our children or sodomise each other or both at the same time. This guy; we have no real idea.

I'll hazard a guess that as he warps God's word to his agenda he just wants people to like him and think he's clever for its own sake and so he can be in a little fellowship of people all pretending God is warm and fluffy and doesn't really mind what they do and coming up with new ways to either twist scripture or ignore it all together.

As I said, sickening! He may as well be an atheist for all the ways he is killing God's word but he thinks he can hoodwink more people if he pretends to know God when he's just stating his own opinions and wants to use an idea of God to make them seem more valid.

They're thoughts in your own head EGAN! The Bible is where God's opinion is - not in your head.

[lucifer's lesbian daughter]

Re: Questions that evolutionist can’t answer

Here are some answers for you...

"Account for the missing land sharks
If we evolved from fish, why haven’t sharks, who according to your theory predate us, evolved into land animals and are hunting us?"

Sharks have plenty of food as it is. They have no need to evolve further, because thei current state is sufficient.
Plus, organisms cannot control how they mutate in order to evolve. That is just stupid.


"Explain floods on Mars with out the Great Flood of the Bible
If Noah’s flood didn’t happen then how do explain the evidence of a great flood on Mars?"

I’m confused. What does a flood on mars have to do with Earth?


"Account for fools
If evolution is survival of the fittest then how do explain the continued survival of unsuccessful groups of stupid humans?"

Luck, the fact that humans typically do not go around murdering stupid people just for the hell of it, the fact that not all humans are stupid, so we do have technology that we use to keep others alive. Please don’t ask why we bother keeping stupid people alive. I’m not sure if you realize, but by both your god’s ultimate rules and out secular laws, murder and manslaughter are illegal…

"Explain why human's aren't perfect
If we are evolving why don’t we have third arms now?"

What part of evolution claims that achieve perfection? There is no such thing. Natural selection selects those organisms best fit for the environment they are in. Plus, we don’t need a third arm, it’s simply not necessary, and as previously stated, organisms cannot will mutations into being.
Also, humoring you, according to your god, no human can be perfect because we’re all born horrible, un-moralistic people.

"Explain infant murder
If we are evolved to nature our young then how do you secular humanist explain your groups pathological desire to kill yours with abortions?"

How is some people’s unwillingness to have a problem proof of creation? Or the proof of a god? As I look back through, you seem to be claiming that god gave humans ruthlessness and a lack of compassion and the ability to kill through logic, while at the same time claiming that he is loving and loves every single one of us…see a problem?
Some people just aren’t cut out to be parents, some people aren’t equipped to be parents, and don’t have any way to support a child, some people don’t want to be parents, or don’t even like kids. These people make a CHOICE. It’s not like people go out and get pregnant JUST so they can have an abortion. That would be a very wrong.

"Why no bodies?
If humanity was roughly a million people living at one time. If the human race is 150,000 years old like you maintain that means there have been 150,000,000,000 who lived before the current era. If each corpse takes up 3 by 6 feet then that means the remains of human ancestors cover 1350 billion square feet of the earth! Why are we not buried under the remains of 150 billion people?"

Cremation, decomposition, scavengers, bones getting crushed into dust, organic life becoming compressed into natural fuel, such as oil, organic material becoming part of the soil, and sustaining other organisms. Ever heard of fertilizer?

"Were do angels and demons fit into the Evolutionist tree of life?
Please explain the earliest common ancestor with all animals, angles and demons. What is their ancestry and transitional form? "

*where. And I find it interesting that you use creatures FROM THE BIBLE in an argument with people who DO NOT BELIEVE in the bible…


"Explain talking snake in the garden threw evolution.
Please tell me when serpents lost the power of speech and the process with which it happened. Please include any fossil of impaired speech snakes."

Again…See above…Evolution doesn’t believe in Garden of Eden, or demons, hence no talking snakes…


"Explain the Loch Ness Monster threw evolution.
I find it hard to believe that a whole species can sustain itself from so few individuals as observed in Loch Ness. Sounds like a hole in your theory to me"

*through. What proof is there of the loch ness monster? Just curious?


"If evolution is true, then why don't trees stretch up to the stratosphere?
Scientists say that trees grow taller and taller because natural selection forces them to compete for light with other trees. However, they have supposedly had hundreds of millions of years to evolve, but the tallest tree in the world is a mere 370 feet tall."

Because they don’t need to. Because they die. Just like everything else. And ‘mere’ 370 feet? Find another organic form of life, excluding whales, that stretches to those proportions (just in case you misunderstand. Mountains and hills don’t count. Neither do buildings)


"If evolution were true, we should be living in pitch dark, because the entire troposphere would be encased in a big sheet of tree leaves."

So according to who, trees don’t die? Because that would be the only way they would have time to grow that big. Trees grow slowly.


"Why don't we act like monkeys
If we are evolved from monkeys why do we behave like them; service our selves constantly an throw our feces about?"

It’s called Evolution for a reason. Plus, serving ourselves? Pretty sure humans haven’t stopped doing that. It’s called being selfish. Look it up. And we are obsessed with grooming ourselves and making ourselves look good. So if you think about it, we're not all that different.

"Why are there still monkey?
Evolution predicts the stronger species (humans) would crush and exterminate the weaker species(monkeys) it evolved from."

*monkeys. Why do humans have to kill apes just because we are more advanced? Plus, we didn't evolve from monkeys, we just have the same common ancestor.

"Please account for quick extinctions.
According to evolution theory it takes millions of years for a species to go extinct. Yet we have examples of species dying out in a few hunderd years like the Dodo. Please account for this. "

*Hundred. Species that go extinct that quickly do so because they are not suited for the environment that they are placed it. Dodos went extinct because a fat, flightless bird is in no way suited for the time of the dinosaurs.

"Were are ancestors and fossilizes remains of the dragon, satyr and unicorn?
I would say the lack of fossils for these three creatures presents a clear gap in the record. "

*where. *fossilized. What the hell? You’re calling US stupid? Those creatures aren’t even real, you idiot.


"Why are no human ancestors mentioned in The Bible?
The very fact that Neandertals, Homo-Erectuces are not mentioned in The Bible proves they are made up. I mean you would think God would have mentioned them 6,000 years ago when He wrote The Bible. duh."

*Neanderthals. And, um, doesn’t the bible mention early humans? I know the story of Jacob and Esau confirms the existence (I’m humoring you, by the way…) of hairy men, so why can’t Neanderthals be Esau’s descendants?
Okay, enough of that. Now back to reality. AGAIN with the referencing something evolutionists typically DO NOT BELIEVE IN does absolutely nothing to support your claim.

"Explain wasps with evolution.
Wasp paralyze spiders and then implant their young in them to feed on living, but helpless insect. If evolution was true them spiders would have anti-wasp poison in their blood. But they don’t. The only way you can get such a horrific death as those countless spiders suffer is threw the power of God. "

*through. What the f***? That’s like asking why humans haven’t come up with a resistance to AIDS or something just as stupid. Also, why are you saying that your god is the only way those creatures go through such a horrific death wish something like pride? Are you proud your god can divine ways of vicious deaths, and allows such deaths to occur? If so, then there is something wrong with you. Though, there is something wrong with you anyways, so, oh well.

"How could Cain could procreate with his sisters if evolution was true?
If can was getting busy with his sister like The Bible relates then the human race should be a race of inbreed deformities like the English Royal Family. Instead we see the general population is healthy. This can only happen if Cain and his sister were of the pure first generation after Adam not corrupted by sins yet."

Again. Referencing events or people in a book we don’t believe in is pointless.

"The Genealogy of Henry III
The "Evidence From Genealogy" display, donated by Edgar Nurnberg, is one of the more favorite displays of our visitors. These scrolls from the Lambeth Palace in England trace the genealogy of King Henry the 6th back to Adam and Eve."

People can do whatever they want with their lineage. I’m pretty sure that it was Henry’s idea to make the scrolls, and pretty sure that since he was Christian, he did figure out some way to trace himself back. But since most of the genealogy, well, all of it actually, for Adam and Eve is in the bible, again, we don’t care.

"Unicorn Horns
What so-called "evoloutionary role" does the horn on a unicorn play? I was taught evolutionary theory, and I can't figure it out!"

Again. Unicorns are not real…


"Why is there still mud?
Darwinists claim that life originate in mud. If you really believe that a big pile of mud turned into a fish, which sprouted legs and arms and turned into monkeys, which turned into human beings, then you're more stupid than I thought. For a start, if that's true, why's there still mud around, and why do babies not have tails like monkeys when they're born?"

Stupid, stupid, stupid. Darwinists claim that life originates for the organisms in the mud. Mud is mud. Like rocks, mud is not alive. Mud is simply dirt and water. And there actually is a species of fish that lives on land. Ever heard of the mud-fish? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lepidosiren_paradoxa
That is one species of fish that does actually burrow and live in the mud. You’re welcome for educating you further since you obviously didn’t get enough of that while you were under your parent’s care.
And if you learn about skeleton, humans actually do have a bone in their pelvis that resembles a tail. Because when we are barely developing, our first 4 weeks after fertilization, we do have tails that are absorbed into the body as we grow. And there are rare instances of people being born with a tail due to a mutation.


"Why don't chemicals think?
If our brains are just a mishmash of biochemistry, how come chemicals like gasoline or bug spray can't think?"

That is like asking why rocks don’t think. Honestly. I’m not an expert in brains, so I will not be able to provide the detail you will probably so unrelentingly demand, but you shall have to be sufficient that I am even bothering to answer your questions in the first place.
Our brains work from a series of chemical reactions and electronic pulses and signals. And it’s in a very organized structure, not just mishmash. All of these things combined allow the human brain to process thoughts, memories, and make decisions, and that applies to any animal in general really, because animals are able to think, maybe not to the extent of humans, but if you’re going to tell me dogs and cats can’t think and make decision, then you really are beyond hope.

"Why don't we have natural clothing?
People have been wearing clothes for thousands of years. Why haven't our bodies evolved natural clothes that come out of our skin then?"

Humoring you again, if you please. In your bible, Adam and Ever were not created with clothes on. They were naked until they discovered their sin. So even by your religion, wearing clothes is not creation.
And now I’m done with that.
Probably the main reason we haven’t developed clothes that come out of our skin is because we wear clothes for COMFORT not SURVIVAL, and thus natural selection does not give a crap about our clothes. They have nothing to do with our survival, they are not a natural part of our life. We, as humans, make the conscious decision to put on clothes. That would be like a dog CHOOSING to wear that sweater it’s owner bought it.


"What was the "evolutionary advantage" of Adam's extra rib?
Why do women have an extra rib than men like the Bible tells us."

Referencing something we don’t believe happened again. Will you ever learn? Of course not.


"What is the evolutionary advantage of demonic possession
Please explain how demonic possesions humans, horses, dogs and pigs helps them to be a more successful species."

*Possessions. See above. We don’t believe this, you idiot.


"Do you believe that Jesus was more primitive and less "fit" than today's slugs and worms?
Christ earthly ministery was 2,000 years ago, a more primitive time than now."

*Ministry. And this is an opinion question. And what does this have to do with proving / disproving evolution/creation?
As for answering it, More primitive, yes. In a lesser state of evolution? No.

"What did the rocks and lightning evolve from?
According to evolutionary theory, all life evolved out of rocks and lightning,Please show the evolutionary linage and transitional forums for rocks and lighting"



Please, Please, PLEASE tell me you are NOT this stupid?? Life did not evolve out of rocks. Rocks aren’t living. This is like your previous question of why there is still mud. Stupid!
Fine. I will explain this to you since you didn’t have a very good science class ever when you were little.
Rocks are a natural thing. Hell, you live on a giant rock. That is what earth is, on the most basic level possible. A really big rock. Also, lightning is a natural force. I’m not going to argue that lightning is even possibly living in the slightest, or has even the tiniest ability to reproduce, which is what the words ‘lineage’ and ‘evolution’ imply, that the creature can reproduce and bear offspring. Which rocks can’t do. And neither can lightning.



Why do you always insist on giving us 'proof' from the bible, which evolutionists and atheists DON'T Believe in. That would be why they are atheist and disagreeing with you. Throwing it their face will not make them any more likely to agree. And why are we the ones providing all the proof? Without giving me any bull about the bible or faith, where is any proof that your god and creation is real?

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Re: Questions that evolutionist can’t answer

I am a full believer in God's creation. That said, I am also a believer that those who use abysmally flawed logic in an effort to proselytize damage the global effort to spread the Good News to as many people as possible in hopes that they will be saved.

Who are you going to believe, some atheist wearing a lab coat or your fellow Christians?

When the logic doesn't even add up for fellow Christians, why would a non-Christian "see the light" after reading or upon hearing an argument that makes no sense in terms of the logic in between the premises and the conclusion?

Logic was created by pagans such as Aristotle. Why are you so eager to accept pagan ways of thinking?

The larger impact of such banter is a reinforcement of the bigoted anti-Christian stereotypes... lack the ability to think for (our) selves.

Where exactly does the Bible tell us that we should think for ourselves?

I am urging you to reconsider the strategy involved, and construct an argument that stands to reason.

In other words, you want us to lie about the Gospel. Don't you know that's a sin?

... every word used by the Father... and.... Our Savior Jesus Christ, is consistent with infallible logic that is only substantiated by modern science.

Modern so-called science says the Earth is over four billion years old. Yet, when you add up the time since creation as set forth in the Bible, it works out to around 6,000 years. Modern so-called science says that the Sun causes the day, yet the Bible tells us that day and night existed before the Sun. Now you're taking the word of scientists over that of God.

...I fully stand by the point that I am making, and believe that Christianity would be much better off if those debating its merits did so using sound reasoning in which the conclusion of the argument is a valid sum of the premises used to arrive at said conclusion.

The Bible says that we should not suffer a witch to live. I take it that you do agree with God, that we need to wipe witchcraft off the face of the Earth. Don't you?

We must articulate our beliefs effectively, and we must to so in a way that persuades people we're right, rather than providing them with ammunition with which they can use to discredit us and attack our credibility on the basis of ignorance embarrassingly poor logic.

The Bible tells us to preach the Word to everyone. It also tells us that God chooses some people to understand the Word and some people not to understand it. It's a sin to water down the Word to try to make it palatable for those whom God doesn't want to understand it. We are True Christians(TM), which means that we don't sin.