[x60tablet]

Re: How do I beat an atheist in argument.

Simple, they are evil!

Whether they are evil or just enjoy sin, those calculations will go into making a wager.

[GOD=life]

Re: How do I beat an atheist in argument.

Whether they are evil or just enjoy sin, those calculations will go into making a wager.

Wouldn't you rather enjoy millions of years of pure happiness in exchange for a couple decades of misery on the earthly disc?

[AimeeD]

Re: How do I beat an atheist in argument.

As I was once told, jokingly, "You can beat anybody with a 2x4 or a nice, shiny crowbar. Beat some bloody sense into 'em."

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: How do I beat an atheist in argument.

Whether they are evil or just enjoy sin, those calculations will go into making a wager.

Why? Evil is inherently self destructive. You are talking about someone, like and Atheist, who chooses to go against God. Even Atheists know God is all powerful (though they don't admit it) Only somone out to hurt themselves would do that.

[True Disciple]

Re: How do I beat an atheist in argument.

Whether they are evil or just enjoy sin, those calculations will go into making a wager.

You're making the assumption that the thought processes of an atheist work as though the atheist were a rational being. The point is, he is not. He lets some unstable, radioactive atoms tell him how old the earth is, instead of The God Of The Bible. How rational is that? How could an atom know how old the earth is? It's just a piece of matter. Likewise, he thinks the universe came from a tiny dot, while God states very clearly that it was Him who created the universe. Ever seen a tiny dot creating a universe? How would the dot know where to put the stars and the planets? It's just a dot, for God's sake!

Atheists commit sin because they are either demons themselves, or they are being possessed by demons.

[x60tablet]

Re: How do I beat an atheist in argument.

You're making the assumption that the thought processes of an atheist work as though the atheist were a rational being. The point is, he is not. He lets some unstable, radioactive atoms tell him how old the earth is, instead of The God Of The Bible. How rational is that? How could an atom know how old the earth is? It's just a piece of matter. Likewise, he thinks the universe came from a tiny dot, while God states very clearly that it was Him who created the universe. Ever seen a tiny dot creating a universe? How would the dot know where to put the stars and the planets? It's just a dot, for God's sake!

Atheists commit sin because they are either demons themselves, or they are being possessed by demons.

Atoms don't know how old the earth is. Instead they guess at how old the earth is based on the age of the oldest atom.

How would a dot know where to put the stars and planets? It doesn't matter. Anyplace you put them would be "correct".

[True Disciple]

Re: How do I beat an atheist in argument.

Atoms don't know how old the earth is. Instead they guess at how old the earth is based on the age of the oldest atom.

But how do they know the age of the atom? Only God knows that!

How would a dot know where to put the stars and planets? It doesn't matter. Anyplace you put them would be "correct".

No, it wouldn't, as a slight displacement would send the planets and stars crashing into one another. We see a very delicate balance in our universe. It is preposterous to assert that a tiny dot would know how to do this.

[x60tablet]

Re: How do I beat an atheist in argument.

Atoms don't know how old the earth is. Instead they guess at how old the earth is based on the age of the oldest atom.

By "they" I mean people who use isotope dating to estimate the age of the earth, and not the atoms themselves. The antecedent in that sentence is missing.

[x60tablet]

Re: How do I beat an atheist in argument.

No, it wouldn't, as a slight displacement would send the planets and stars crashing into one another. We see a very delicate balance in our universe. It is preposterous to assert that a tiny dot would know how to do this.

I'm not sure why this even matters. Let us say for argument that a tiny dot placed uncountable number of planets and stars in random locations and billions of them crashed into each other getting destroyed. Then what exists now would be all the ones that by chance were tossed into the "delicately" balanced positions.

[True Disciple]

Re: How do I beat an atheist in argument.

I'm not sure why this even matters. Let us say for argument that a tiny dot placed uncountable number of planets and stars in random locations and billions of them crashed into each other getting destroyed. Then what exists now would be all the ones that by chance were tossed into the "delicately" balanced positions.

The tiny dot would also have to know how to make gravity to make such a balance even possible (gravity is a lie, of course, but the atheists need it for their cosmological theories). How would the dot know that?

[x60tablet]

Re: How do I beat an atheist in argument.

The tiny dot would also have to know how to make gravity to make such a balance even possible (gravity is a lie, of course, but the atheists need it for their cosmological theories). How would the dot know that?

It wouldn't. If I have a drawer full of red socks and black socks all mixed together and someone blindfolds me and asks me to pick out two socks of the same color the most amount of socks I need to grab is three. I don't need to know anything about the total number of socks, the relative densities, how one feels over the other or any other technical information.

Similarly, a dot capable of putting stars and planets wherever it pleases needs no knowledge of anything. With an infinite number of stars and planets some are going to end up ok. If intelligent beings are then created afterwards to live on those planets, they would have no way of knowing what happened unless the dot commissioned the writing of a book telling them.

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: How do I beat an atheist in argument.

It wouldn't. If I have a drawer full of red socks and black socks all mixed together and someone blindfolds me and asks me to pick out two socks of the same color the most amount of socks I need to grab is three. I don't need to know anything about the total number of socks, the relative densities, how one feels over the other or any other technical information.

True, completely pointless but true.

Similarly, a dot capable of putting stars and planets wherever it pleases needs no knowledge of anything. With an infinite number of stars and planets some are going to end up ok. If intelligent beings are then created afterwards to live on those planets, they would have no way of knowing what happened unless the dot commissioned the writing of a book telling them.

I lost you here. What are you trying to say? Did you eat to many of those tablets again?

[True Disciple]

Re: How do I beat an atheist in argument.

It wouldn't. If I have a drawer full of red socks and black socks all mixed together and someone blindfolds me and asks me to pick out two socks of the same color the most amount of socks I need to grab is three. I don't need to know anything about the total number of socks, the relative densities, how one feels over the other or any other technical information.

Similarly, a dot capable of putting stars and planets wherever it pleases needs no knowledge of anything. With an infinite number of stars and planets some are going to end up ok. If intelligent beings are then created afterwards to live on those planets, they would have no way of knowing what happened unless the dot commissioned the writing of a book telling them.

My friend, aren't you listening? According to atheist theories, gravity is necessary, otherwise planets wouldn't form! They claim that the dot made gravity after an insanely short span of time after it exploded (which is rather ironic, considering their fetish for absurdly long timespans). A dot isn't going to think: "hey, I've got an idea, let's make gravity!"

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: How do I beat an atheist in argument.

It wouldn't. If I have a drawer full of red socks and black socks ....

Wait a second...You wear red socks?

Are you a communist or something?

[Aristotle]

Re: How do I beat an atheist in argument.

Patron saints are entities of catholicism. A saint is a christian entity. Atheists cannot have saints of any kind.

But you forget that atheism is a religion, just like catholicism or mohammedism. They may not call them saints, but Marx, Darwin and Dawkins play the same role.

Not quite. By believing, he loses the option of committing all sorts of sin. So his wager would be between sinning on earth (having lots of fun while alive) and being punished for eternity vs not sinning on earth and being in heaven for eternity. Then since it is a wager, you must weight those two events by probabilities you assign for them being true and value you give to the before/after death events.

Not sure what you said but I think you agreed with me.

Well this is a circular argument because the only way it works is by expressing without God, nothing would exist so the only reason things exist is because of God. Regardless of it's veracity, it is a empty statement.

God created the Universe is an empty statement to you? What do you consider a full statement?

Psalm 14.1: "The fool hath said in his heart, 'There is no God.' They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that does good."

A perfect quote to say to atheists and other Satanists.