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  • Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat!

    Originally posted by leshacks View Post
    certain parts of the Bible, such as the earth being flat, have been proved without a doubt to be false
    Are you saying God had it wrong on some parts? I'm not picking on you, but wouldn't that point to a rather feeble God?

    maybe that wasn't what God meant.
    Do you realize how big a can of worms you open with that statement? Seriously.
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    • Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat!

      Originally posted by Wide-Open View Post
      Are you saying God had it wrong on some parts? I'm not picking on you, but wouldn't that point to a rather feeble God?
      No, it points to a God which knew that at the time the Bible was written, the people couldn't comprehend that the earth was round, so when he described the earth, he described it being flat. Which brings us back to our original argument: whether the earth is flat or not. As I have mentioned before, there have been millions of experiments carried out the proves that the earth is round. Saying that they all faked their results to discredit the Bible is ridiculous.

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      • Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat!

        Originally posted by leshacks View Post
        Faith. Isn't that what our religon is based on?
        We should have faith that God mislead His devout believers for thousands of years? That sounds like the sort of faith a Satanist or a Mormon would have.
        certain parts of the Bible, such as the earth being flat, have been proved without a doubt to be false
        No part of the Bible has ever been proven false. This is something a false prophet would say.

        No, it points to a God which knew that at the time the Bible was written, the people couldn't comprehend that the earth was round, so when he described the earth, he described it being flat.
        First you said God didn't mean the Earth was flat, that it was meant to be understood as a metaphor. Now you say He told a lie so that people would believe Him. Which is it?
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        • Originally posted by Atheist Interloper View Post
          So because it is false, it must be a metaphor for something else? By this rationale, any sort of lie could be interpreted as true.
          That's why we don't interpret the bible (KJV1611). We take it literally; without extraneous embellishment. The truth(tm) is never garnished, tarnished or varnished with the venal veneer of contempory conformation to this modern so called 'PC' world.

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          • Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat!

            Originally posted by Billy Bob Jenkins View Post
            No part of the Bible has ever been proven false. This is something a false prophet would say.
            You are correct, no entire part of the Bible has been proven false. However, many interpretations of it, such as a few mentioning of "four corners of the earth" and "the ends of the earth" meaning that the earth is flat, have been proven false.

            Originally posted by Billy Bob Jenkins View Post
            First you said God didn't mean the Earth was flat, that it was meant to be understood as a metaphor. Now you say He told a lie so that people would believe Him. Which is it?
            Where have I ever said that He told a lie? All I have said is that He might have made a metaphor to the earth being flat because people couldn't understand that the earth was round.

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            • Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat!

              Originally posted by leshacks View Post
              You are correct, no entire part of the Bible has been proven false. However, many interpretations of it, such as a few mentioning of "four corners of the earth" and "the ends of the earth" meaning that the earth is flat, have been proven false.
              Those are "entire parts" of the Bible, and they have not been proven false.

              Are you saying that one really can't see all the kingdoms of the world from a single mountain top? The Bible says you can:

              Matthew 4:8

              King James Version (KJV)

              8Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;
              Where have I ever said that He told a lie?
              Originally posted by leshacks View Post
              No, it points to a God which knew that at the time the Bible was written, the people couldn't comprehend that the earth was round, so when he described the earth, he described it being flat.
              Last edited by Billy Bob Jenkins; 02-25-2012, 03:45 PM. Reason: Added quotation marks to absurd phrase.
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              • Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat!

                Originally posted by leshacks View Post
                a God
                You must understand that this alone is a red flag, right?

                I always thought there was only one God.


                at the time the Bible was written, the people couldn't comprehend that the earth was round
                Are you saying that God, who created everything around you, even time, didn't see 2012 coming? Think about it for a while, please.

                millions of experiments
                Sounds like a lot, and, frankly, a number you just made up. Right?

                Wouldn't one single experiment (double blind etc.) disprove God's Word? Wouldn't "millions" just indicate a concerted media attack?
                Psalm 81:10:
                I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt:
                open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it.

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                • Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat!

                  Ok, for the sake of this argument, let's assume that the Bible is meant to be taken literally. You believe that the earth is a flat disc. However, the Bible clearly says otherwise.

                  Revelation 7:1:
                  And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

                  Notice that "four corners" thing? Guess how many corners a circle has? NOT four. Therefore, according to the Bible, the earth is a flat square. However, Isaiah 40:22 says that the earth is a circle.

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                  • Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat!

                    Originally posted by leshacks View Post
                    Ok, for the sake of this argument, let's assume that the Bible is meant to be taken literally. You believe that the earth is a flat disc. However, the Bible clearly says otherwise.

                    Revelation 7:1:
                    And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

                    Notice that "four corners" thing? Guess how many corners a circle has? NOT four. Therefore, according to the Bible, the earth is a flat square. However, Isaiah 40:22 says that the earth is a circle.
                    That is very simple. Here you can see two pictures of flat disk of earth from different angles. In first picture you can see disk from the side. How many corners can you see in that picture? Second picture is view from above. If the angels were standing in the north-south, east-west sectors, they were clearly still standing at the corners of the world.
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                    • Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat!

                      Originally posted by Alphonse Alban View Post
                      That is very simple. Here you can see two pictures of flat disk of earth from different angles. In first picture you can see disk from the side. How many corners can you see in that picture? Second picture is view from above. If the angels were standing in the north-south, east-west sectors, they were clearly still standing at the corners of the world.
                      If you agree with that logic, then a round earth could also have four "corners": the North pole, the South pole, and then two opposite points on the equator that could be called the East and West pole.

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                      • Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat!

                        Originally posted by leshacks View Post
                        If you agree with that logic, then a round earth could also have four "corners": the North pole, the South pole, and then two opposite points on the equator that could be called the East and West pole.
                        Is that what they are teaching in public schools these days? That the Earth has an east and a west pole? Your compass must be quite complicated.



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                        • Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat!

                          Originally posted by Zechariah Smyth View Post
                          Is that what they are teaching in public schools these days? That the Earth has an east and a west pole? Your compass must be quite complicated.



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                          Obviously there is no actual East and West pole. What I'm saying is that if you took two opposite points on the equator, then those, along with the North and South pole, could be considered the "four corners of the earth"

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                          • Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat!

                            Originally posted by leshacks View Post
                            Obviously there is no actual East and West pole. What I'm saying is that if you took two opposite points on the equator, then those, along with the North and South pole, could be considered the "four corners of the earth"
                            There you go again, moving the goalposts and backtracking when your "science" is revealed to be ridiculous.

                            Bravo, you are the latest in a long line of Jesus-haters to do exactly the same thing.



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                            • Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat!

                              Originally posted by leshacks View Post
                              I never said the Bible isn't the word of God. All I'm saying is that some parts of the Bible aren't meant to be taken literally.
                              Which bits? How do you tell?
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                              • Re: Scientific proof the Earth is flat!

                                Originally posted by Zechariah Smyth View Post
                                There you go again, moving the goalposts and backtracking when your "science" is revealed to be ridiculous.
                                I'm sorry, but could you please explain how "science" has been revealed to be ridiculous?

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