[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

I'm so glad someone directed me to this thread. This is the single greatest display of proud ignorance I've ever seen in my life.

I must say that, as someone that works on science, I find it very offensive that people tip off things we've known for decades by simply saying things like "Have you ever seen seen an ion?". Which, as a matter of fact, CAN BE SEEN:


But regarding the subject of this thread, it's so ridicule that someone may discard years of research and knowledge. Of course the Earth is not flat, there have been people up in orbit, photos have been taken, what do you make of those? And how do seasons occur?
Oh, and have you ever noticed that ships on the horizon appear to emerge from the sea? How strange is that for a flat world, huh?
I take it that you guys never heard about Focault's pendulum also, and if you did, I'm sure you think that's the devils work.
By the way, why do we see different constellations at different times of the year, or why do the stars rotate in the sky in such an aligned and exact way? There must be some kind of explanation for that too...
Another thing, why is it that two sticks with the exact length and positioned in the very same way in different places on Earth cast a different shadow? In case you don't know, that was used by a man called Eratosthenes, before Christ was born, to measure the radius of the Earth.
Did you know that you could see other planets with a simple telescope, or even binoculars? And what is their shape? Round!
To conclude, I'd like to see someone explain the need for time zones in a flat Earth.

That is all.

tl;dr

Since Jesus called you here for Salvation, why don't you just shut your secular yap and fall to your knees for Him right now!

[Born Again Bob]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

Dear Friend,

To conclude, I'd like to see someone explain the need for time zones in a flat Earth.

None at all! I've been saying that for years!

Yours in Agreement With You,
BAB

[Thin_icE]

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Friend, kindly read the entire thread before making such a fool of yourself. Do you imagine you are the first God-hating simpleton to make these speculative and foolish assertions? Your kind has been soundly rebuked over and over and over.

Some common courtesy, if you will.

In Christ

I just found out about this thread (and forum in general), having read a good amount of pages, I haven't seen any rebuttal of the afirmations, I've only seen people sticking their head in the sand of ignorance. That's why I'm trying to make a more serious argumentation, and I expect more from you guys than this:

That's just a picture of some thread. Even this simple observation has eluded you.

I thought it was one of those 'light brite' toys. It well could be a picture of some wool. I'll have to ask Mrs. Hutchins later when she is done with her chores.

I think it looks like Mentos

If your rebuttals are simply to dismiss real evidence presented in front of you, then I could say that your God doesn't exist, along with everything in the bible, which is a book written by some guy. I'm sure you wouldn't like that, but it would be as fair on my part as it was on yours.
Anyway, concerning the photo, is National Geographic more credible to you?
Before someone starts with some nonsense like last time, let me tell you that there are catholic universities that make real science, like the Catholic University of Leuven in Belgium, the Catholic University of Chile or even the Catholic University of America. In all of these (as with all universities), it is common sense that the Earth is round, it has been proven for more than 2000 years with simple observation and calculus, and more recently with photography.
Which brings me to this:

. . . who uses Wikipedia as a primary reference.

Have you even finished high school yet, Ms. "works on science"?

Wikipedia is highly accurate on many subjects, but I'll bite, here are other sources for the things I enumerated:
Here's the biography of Eratosthenes on the University of St. Andrew, Scotland.
Oh, and in case foreign sources are not to be trusted, here's another biography from the University of Wichita.
Concerning Foucalt's pendulum, here's a page from the University of South Wales that explains very well how it works.
And here's another one from the Cleveland Museum of Natural History.
I think that will be respectable enough for you. But in any case, let me know.

You mean like a flying submarine? Maybe you have one at your research facility; what do I know? Sounds crazy to me.

Now you're either being mean on purpose, or just flat ignorant. It's a rocket, and every launch had plenty of people on the site watching it, you could have been there too.
Just to be clear on the subject, here's a video from NASA (via Associated Press), showing astronauts doing a space walk.

I might be mistaking but I don’t think anyone here has said that you can’t see round things using binoculars. You can see all kinds of two dimensional shapes using binoculars. However, binoculars will not be sufficient to make any statements about distant three dimensional objects.

Having said that, I really don’t know what you think you see with your telescope. I’m sure that if I could see it for myself, I would probably be able to give you a simple explanation. Have you checked the glass for stains?

Hou would you explain the phases of the Moon then? The phases would make no sense on a flat surface. Oh, and here's a simplified explanation, so you can see how it actually works. If you want, here's the grown-ups version, from the American National Optical Astronomy Observatory.
Also, I don't know if guys ever heard, but the same phases can be observed on Venus. Just in case you're wondering, you can see it from down here, just check this photo, this is another thing you can see for yourselves with a pair of binoculars.
And why are the phases of Venus important, I hear you ask, you can see on this page of the University of Tennessee why it proves that the Earth goes around the Sun and not the opposite.
And for fun, who was it that found out about this on the first place? Galileo Galilei, you know, that guy that the Pope John Paul II apologized to, stating that the theologists from that time were wrong.

tl;dr

Since Jesus called you here for Salvation, why don't you just shut your secular yap and fall to your knees for Him right now!

That's very helpful and very meaningful, more so coming from a "Pastor".

Dear Friend,



None at all! I've been saying that for years!

Yours in Agreement With You,
BAB

Well, the thing is, we DO need time zones. As you know, when it's midnight on middle USA, it's noon on other countries, like India, and why? Because it's day on India and night on America. And why does this happen? Because the earth is round and the sun cannot illuminate all of the surface of the earth at once, causing it to have phases like the moon and venus.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

"Have you ever seen seen an ion?". Which, as a matter of fact, CAN BE SEEN:

Look, lame brain - this is an iron:



and you spelled it wrongly.

[Redeemed Papist]

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Nice you explained it wayy better than I did. I dont know how people can be so narrow minded when theres so much proof and actual science and discovery taking place outside of these simpletons methods of "science". They need to take A look at the bigger picture before making themselves look this ignorant. Or maybe they just like the attention? Kinda like those Westboro idiots..

I saw one of those things on a taxi driver's seat once. He said it was comfortable.

[John North]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

Catholic University of Chile

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[John North]

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Concerning Foucalt's pendulum

I’ve now looked at that pendulum thing of yours (since it seems to be utterly important to you). I checked it out on the web page you referenced.

To really believe what I saw, I made the experiment myself (using a golf ball and some twine). The height of the pendulum was ~2 m (I’m using metrics here since I know you’re a scientist). I put the thing in motion... waited… and guess what? After an hour the whole thing had stopped!

Does this mean that the spherical earth we are living on has stopped spinning? Will we all fall off now? Seriously, YOU have to do better than that.

[Lords Sheep]

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The earth is not flat. Real science has proved and confirmed this with visual and non visual aid. Jumping in the air and remaining in the same place is your proof? Its called velociety you and planet are moving at the same speed. Heres another experiment for you stand on a moving bus or train. Then jump, you wont get sucked to the back the bus is moving. God isnt willing it from point A to Point B. The people falling off the bottom. That mumbo jumbo you call gravity is fact. The paper wont stick to the balloon because your doing the experiment on earth. Earths gravity is pulling the paper to the ground. Get high is yoyr third reason thats retarded. How about show me the edge of the earth where is it located? Why doesnt the water fall off. How come when we fly planes across the world we end we we started? If you want to disprove gravity Jump off a building and see how it works out for you. Until then the earth is round, gravity exists thats fact. You dont habe to be a "true christian" to see it.

[Redeemed Papist]

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The earth is not flat. Real science has proved and confirmed this with visual and non visual aid. Jumping in the air and remaining in the same place is your proof? Its called velociety you and planet are moving at the same speed. Heres another experiment for you stand on a moving bus or train. Then jump, you wont get sucked to the back the bus is moving. God isnt willing it from point A to Point B. The people falling off the bottom. That mumbo jumbo you call gravity is fact. The paper wont stick to the balloon because your doing the experiment on earth. Earths gravity is pulling the paper to the ground. Get high is yoyr third reason thats retarded. How about show me the edge of the earth where is it located? Why doesnt the water fall off. How come when we fly planes across the world we end we we started? If you want to disprove gravity Jump off a building and see how it works out for you. Until then the earth is round, gravity exists thats fact. You dont habe to be a "true christian" to see it.

Uh... We're inside the train Mr cleverclogs. It'd all be like, pass me the salt and the thing would fly to the back of the train as soon as you let go of it so it's obviously not like what you say it would be like if the world's flat. God's smarter than that.

I take it you haven't done the experiment.

[Lords Sheep]

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God didnt invent trains science did. Theres no mention of a train in the bible. How can you sit behind a computer use the internet and deny science and insist the woeld is flat and 6000 years old. Not just biology but astronomy, geology, physics, meteorolgy, calcus, are all built on the foundation of an old round earth and universe. While your typing digital signals are beemed to satilites and computers AROUND the earth. And you want to deny that? If you dont believe in science then you cant use it. Get off the internet before you go to hell. Because the internet relys on laws that go against gods word.

[John North]

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Get off the internet before you go to hell.

From what I’ve read so far it seem like you’re the one going to hell.

Have a nice life; the afterlife will not be all that pleasant…

John 14:6
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Revelation 21:8
8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

[Redeemed Papist]

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God didnt invent trains science did. Theres no mention of a train in the bible. How can you sit behind a computer use the internet and deny science and insist the woeld is flat and 6000 years old. Not just biology but astronomy, geology, physics, meteorolgy, calcus, are all built on the foundation of an old round earth and universe. While your typing digital signals are beemed to satilites and computers AROUND the earth. And you want to deny that? If you dont believe in science then you cant use it. Get off the internet before you go to hell. Because the internet relys on laws that go against gods word.

And what laws are they? Nothing happens against God's will. If we have the internet and trains it's because God wanted us to have them. Just because you have some measurements by scientists who are clearly wrong doesn't mean anything. It doesn't mean that's how things really work in the real world because some guy in a lab coat wrote down some numbers.

God loves you so much He sent His only son to die so you could be saved. And you throw silly measurements in His face. What sort of God doesn't know you are right and He is wrong? Answer: no sort of God at all because He is right and beyond your understanding.

Job 37:5 God thundereth marvellously with his voice; great things doeth he, which we cannot comprehend.

[Lords Sheep]

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If you need a book from this insanely awesome all knowing superhero in the sky then your an idiot. If god told you to fly a plane into the twin towers you would do it. Mythlogy is cool but dont take it literally. If you agree science is blasmphmy then surely your going to hell for using a invention of technology that goes against what the bible says. The earth is round and outr space exists the internet relys on both of these FACTS in order to work. If yu claim the earth is flat then the burdom of proof is on you where is the edge???

[Born Again Bob]

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Dear Friend,

If god told you to fly a plane into the twin towers you would do it.

I would. I absolutely would.

If you agree science is blasmphmy then surely your going to hell for using a invention of technology that goes against what the bible says....

Science is not per se blasphemy. It is only blasphemous when the "scientist" concludes that the Bible is wrong.

Yours in Him,
bab

[Lords Sheep]

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With every keystroke you prove the bible wrong. I still want to know where the edge of the earth is. You avoid my question cause deep down you know its false and been proven wrong. You wouldnt come up with all these ridicilous answers to what science has already proven false if you knew you were correct. You claim the earth is flat then prove it. We have airplanes thanks to science. And we have flown them around the earth. Where is the edge? I really want to know where it is. Lets make a bet me and you get into an airplane and let the pilot fly us around. Yes around because its fact it is round. But we fly around if you can show me the edge you win. If we end up around the earth which we will because again its fact the world is round. Then I win. If you show me the edge I will immediately get down on my knees and beg jesus christ for forgiveness. You and me both know that wontnhappen though.