[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Curiosity Mars "landing" BIGGEST NASA HOAX EVER!!!

Nearly most Christians don't believe in the firmament because they have accepted what science has discovered. Nearly most Christians don't believe the Earth is flat because they have accepted what science has discovered. Etc...

Yes, and nearly most (false) Christians are going to Hell because of it.

Revelation 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Curiosity Mars "landing" BIGGEST NASA HOAX EVER!!!

You're thinking of a hypothesis. ... postulate ... It's easy to get confused because in every day speech people refer to an unverified, or worse unverifiable, idea as a theory because it sounds less pretentious than saying hypothesis.

It's clearly you who is confused. Theory, hypothesis, postulate, it all means exactly the same: Something that has NOT been proven.

Otherwise they would call it a FACT. Evolution is not a fact. It is a theory that only vegan hippies with AIDS want to believe.

I know it's useless with you, but I will try this one more time: PLEASE ASK YOUR MOMMY FOR A DICTIONARY!

It will be scary at first, with all those tiny letters and no pictures of naked boys. But once you start using it your understanding of the world around you will vastly improve.

[Asshat Turdhead]

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People in science tend to be extremely careful when it comes to calling things facts. In fact, nothing discovered in science has been called a fact (though the theory of the dirac sea comes pretty close). math is full of facts. 2+2=4, this is a fact, a thing that is true no matter what, for all time, 2+2 will equal 4. We tend to be more careful with theories, an example of this is Newtons theory of gravity. It was discovered that newtons equations would stop working when it comes to very dense objects, this is when it was "updated" by Einsteins theory of relativity. Relitivety makes the equations work under those conditions but newton's theories work everywhere else. They were used to correctly time when Hally's comet would pass earth the next time and all times after.

The heliocentric model of the solar system is not even a theory anymore, it is a fact. Supported by Galileo, further explained by Newton, and finally proven by Kepler. There is no one on Earth (besides a few thousand, some of which use this very site) who still refutes this.

The dictionary definition of theory:
a coherent group of tested general propositions, commonly regarded as correct, that can be used as principles of explanation and prediction for a class of phenomena: Einstein's theory of relativity. Synonyms: principle, law, doctrine.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Curiosity Mars "landing" BIGGEST NASA HOAX EVER!!!

.......... In fact, nothing discovered in science has been called a fact ........

Finally. You admit the truth. Praise His Glory!

[Brother-Jon]

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This is kind of like the other posts in the thread about the planets...
NASAtan says the mars rover is like 1 ton. Well Mars is way too small for that.
We can see what 'they' call mars in the sky at night and its smaller than my finger!! It's just a tiny little light!
If it was really almost the size of Earth, then we would be able to see it plain and clear in the sky all the time!
Of course you can't send anything to mars.
The cathlicks were the first people to be tricked by science with that telescope stunt. It's so sad that modern Christians fall for this scientific trash-talk about space and planets.
Like it even matters.
When Jesus comes back he's coming here, to Earth! The Bible says nothing about him making a pit-stop at other planets...

[Asshat Turdhead]

Re: Curiosity Mars "landing" BIGGEST NASA HOAX EVER!!!

Read the rest of the text. Scientific method intentionally puts these barriers up in an attempt to keep retesting theories so that we can improve them or find weaknesses. Heliocentric model, while technically a theory, is so supported by evidence that it is at this point impossible to dispute.

To Frere Jacka
NASA claims that the Curiosity rover weighs 1 ton, but Mars weighs 1.45 * 10^20 (145,000,000,000,000,000,000) tons. We can't see it very plainly in the sky because of its immense distance from Earth. What is this "telescope stunt", a telescope is a series of glass panes designed to make objects appear larger to the observer, there is no trickery involved. Mars, and every other planet, even the ones that don't orbit the Sun, are massive in size and weight. Google even has a complete map of the entirety of Mars's surface.

Arm yourselves with knowledge, for the night is dark and full of terrors.

Aemegon Teriyaki

[Mary Etheldreda]

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The cathlicks were the first people to be tricked by science with that telescope stunt.

Indeed. Those foolish pedophiles, obsessed with the naughty bits of boys of any age, even the foreskin of the Most Sweet Baby Jesus Himself, actually believed the Holy Foreskin turned into Saturn's Rings!

During the late 17th century, Catholic scholar and theologian Leo Allatius (Allacci Leone ) published the treatise De Praeputio Domini Nostri Jesu Christi Diatriba (“Discussion concerning the Prepuce of our Lord Jesus Christ”) in which he proposed that the Holy Foreskin had ascended into heaven at the same time as Jesus, and had become the recently observed rings of Saturn.

This is the foundation of this so-called "science" of astronomy!

It's so sad that modern Christians fall for this scientific trash-talk about space and planets.

It is a shame, a lie Satan has created to dupe the weak and foolish. Here at Landover Baptist Church, we strive to share the beauty and majesty of the True Faith of Christ as revealed in the LORD's Own Word, the King James Version Holy Bible.

Welcome to our friendly forums, dear.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Is that Jesus dancing with a goat?!

[Brother-Jon]

Re: Curiosity Mars "landing" BIGGEST NASA HOAX EVER!!!

Read the rest of the text. Scientific method intentionally puts these barriers up in an attempt to keep retesting theories so that we can improve them or find weaknesses. Heliocentric model, while technically a theory, is so supported by evidence that it is at this point impossible to dispute.

To Frere Jacka
NASA claims that the Curiosity rover weighs 1 ton, but Mars weighs 1.45 * 10^20 (145,000,000,000,000,000,000) tons. We can't see it very plainly in the sky because of its immense distance from Earth. What is this "telescope stunt", a telescope is a series of glass panes designed to make objects appear larger to the observer, there is no trickery involved. Mars, and every other planet, even the ones that don't orbit the Sun, are massive in size and weight. Google even has a complete map of the entirety of Mars's surface.

Arm yourselves with knowledge, for the night is dark and full of terrors.

Aemegon Teriyaki

You said it yourself, its just a theory. We all know that "scientific theories" are just the sugar coated covering on the m&m that is satans poison. You also said that science never claims to be fact which basically means its pretty much wrong. If its not fact then its not true enough, right?
And as for your blabber about this hell-ocentricity nonsense, Ill dispute it right now: it doesn't matter because if it did, God and/or Jesus would have made it clear in the Bible and then we wouldn't have to spend time or tax dollars worrying about it!
Have you forgotten Genesis 1? Specifically verse 14 where it says God made the sun and moon AFTER the earth? If the earth really moved around the sun, not only would we would be able to tell by looking at, but my guess is God would have given us a heads up or at least told us that he made the sun first and flung the earth around it. Either way there would be a much better explanation than your new wave, LSD/pot smoking scientists have invented on one of their debauched trips to the middle of the desert with your fancy telescopes. If God wanted us to see it up close, He would have made it bigger. But He didnt so it doesn't matter. Its a tiny light. Get over it.
Also thats not a real number. Im pretty sure you just made that up because you're embarrassed you can't prove your point with real facts (i.e. The Bible). So much for your 'evidence'.

[Asshat Turdhead]

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You are not getting this. Science never claims to be fact because they use a different definition of the word fact than you do. The definition of fact is A thing that is indisputably the case. This is clearly not the case, or we would not be having this discussion. This does not mean it is pretty much wrong. You seem to completely ignored the definition of the word theory (displayed below this paragraph). Math has facts, you can not dispute the laws of math, 2+2=4, but you can dispute some aspects of science. And science encourages this, it is in this way that theories are always put under question so they can be bettered in some way.

Theory: n
a coherent group of tested general propositions, commonly regarded as correct, that can be used as principles of explanation and prediction for a class of phenomena: Einstein's theory of relativity. Synonyms: principle, law, doctrine.

It doesn't matter?, of course it matters. just because something was not written in a 1500 year old book does not mean it does not matter. Mars is the perfect place for humans to go when the Earth is overpopulated (that day is coming soon). We look up in the sky sometimes to find dangers there. At any times, a meteor could catch us by surprise and crash into Earth causing an end to civilization. Our planet is too delicate, we need to expand. Mars is perfect, it is near Earth size, has a 24 hour day, it even has seasons. If our civilization lived on too planets, then we could escape extinction events on either one. An impact in 1908 cleared 1800 square miles of forest and knocked down 8 million trees, this thing did not even hit the ground, if such a thing happened in a city, the death toll would be measured in tens of millions. We now track every piece of space debris that can do damage like that. Space is dangerous, no matter if the bible says it is or not.

That is indeed a real number. The beauty of numbers is that you can count up and up forever. Elevty-twelve is not a number, but a number can be any combination of smaller digits. There are 700,500,000,000,000,000,000 (7 * 10^20) grains of sand on Earth. A number can keep getting higher for all eternity and still be a number.

Aegon Targaryen

[Mary Etheldreda]

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Have you forgotten Genesis 1? Specifically verse 14 where it says God made the sun and moon AFTER the earth? If the earth really moved around the sun, not only would we would be able to tell by looking at, but my guess is God would have given us a heads up or at least told us that he made the sun first and flung the earth around it.

Can you imagine, God creating the earth to swing around in a circle like a dog mindlessly chasing its own tail, just to later plop a sun in the middle so as to give it the appearance of purpose?

What kind of clown does this guy think the LORD is, anyway?

[Asshat Turdhead]

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I don't know why he did it but that is what is happening. The Earth is traveling in a straight line but the gravitational influence of the Sun keeps it going in an ellipse, that is what an orbit is. Maybe the Earth and everything else was created moving in a straight line at varying speed only for the Sun to later be created pulling them into elliptical orbits. Either that or genesis is inaccurate. This could stem from a mistranslation in the bibles long history of being copied. It could be a inaccuracy made during genesis's long history as being a story passed down before the bible was written. I don't know but the Earth does orbit the Sun.

[Brother-Jon]

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You are not getting this.

There are 700,500,000,000,000,000,000 (7 * 10^20) grains of sand on Earth. A number can keep getting higher for all eternity and still be a number.

Aegon Targaryen

No, we get it. You want to use any book or journal from satan's library or anything scribbled on a napkin at a restaurant, basically anything except God's Infallible Word, as evidence.

Also, maybe there are a lot of numbers, but I'm sure God has more exciting things planned for us during our eternal stay in Heaven rather than just counting forever.
But please, feel free to count sand or hairs or whatever in Hell.

Psalm 139:17-18 and Matthew 10:30

[Asshat Turdhead]

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What did I say about books? Its the definition of the words theory and fact that you can't get. I have repeated it twice and have seen other people say it on this site yet you keep saying that a theory is no different from a guess. Science does not obtain information from books, it stores information in books. Scientists obtain information from observing the environment, analyzing it, and then converging with other scientists to find a conclusion. Here is some evidence for a heliocentric solar system model.

Doppler effect. have you ever been to a drag race and heard the sounds of approaching cars. Then as they pass, the sound seems to change. This is called the Doppler effect. When an object is moving, any wave coming from it is warped depending on its movement. Light is a wave and the Doppler effect applies here. Stars in front of the moving Earth actually are slightly more blue (compressed light wave) than the others and the stars behind Earth are more red (stretched light wave) than others. Delicate spectroscopes pick up these distinctions. the same method also proved that the universe is expanding.

Phases of Venus. Much like the Moon, Venus has observable phases which we can see from Earth with telescopes. These phases do not include a phase where all of Venus is illuminated because at this point, Venus would always be on the other side of the Sun. If the solar system followed a geocentric model, there would be some times where Venus would be full due to being on the opposite side of the Earth as the Sun. A full Venus has never been seen from Earth.

Stellar Parallax. Perhaps the most convincing evidence. When Earth is on one side of the Sun. The sky is slightly different from the other side. When one determines the position of a star in July, they will notice that it is in a slightly different position in January. When one measures both angles and the distance Earth is from the Sun, they can employ trigonometry (complex math that works with sides and angles of triangles) to determine how far away the star is. I have done this once with the star Alpha Centauri. I came up with 4.2 light years which is close to the actual value of 4.366 light years. With more advanced instruments, i could have gotten much closer.

Aegon Targaryen

[Cranky Old Man]

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What did I say about books?

I have no idea but no doubt something stupid.

There are 700,500,000,000,000,000,000 grains of sand on Earth.

Did you actually think about that or are you just pulling numbers out of your often raped behind?

Let's use some magic I like to call "using your brain" to look at that number you just made up. I will use the metric system allowing even retarded Atheists to understand this:

• The number of grains of sand (more commonly known as dioxosilane with a molecular weight of 60.0843 g/mol) will be the volume of sand divided by the volume per grain: 1 mm^3.
• The volume of sand is available from the product of the length of all beaches in the world, their average width and average depth. Width: 30 m depth: 5 m.
• We use the idea that the length of beaches is a percentage of the length of shores: 25%.
• The length of shores is related to the size of the Earth. We include the size in terms of the circumference. Multiple of circumference:5. Earth circumference: 40.000 km.

We apply some simple preschool level math:


So the resulting estimate is 7 quintillion 500 quadrillion () which is not even close to your completely nonsensical 700 quintillion 500 quadrillion (). For your nonsensical number all beaches in the world would have to be 3000 meters wide .

I suppose you are also responsible for Obama's Budget Of Doom?