[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Where did the races come from?

I did provide the proof!

No dear. You called Jesus by some Yiddish name, then rattled off a bunch of non sequiturs. Ultimately it matters not, as this is not a debate forum. We're correct and you are incorrect, according to the Holy Scriptures, the Living Word of God.

[ShadowDunce]

Re: Where did the races come from?

NOTE:
.1. we already know that Romish catholicism is a gutter religion
.2. Christian Churches do not have pictures of Jesus

WOW!! and I thought the day was a bit slow having planted a few trees & picked crab apples to make jelly. Obviously your txt-2-voice software needs upgrading or its vocabulary extended or whatever happens; I don't need to know: I can read.

Just to make sure my memory hadn't failed I reread my post and sure enough there it wasn't.





Let's kick off with

“.So where does it say that the dark skin was the curse?.”

Nowhere. I did not mention skin pigmentation at any point. In fact I was not even addressing that question which alone should have alerted you your software to the low probability of my mentioning it at all.

Have you tried this package? I found it very good (but was using hard copy which I preferred).

What's next?
“.Noah cursed Canaan, Ham's son!.”
This was particularly surprising. It is exactly what The Bible explains. The next bit is more complicated however so I'll take it slowly and highlight the key words in yellow:
Ham was a sex pervert. He crope around perving in tents, of which there wouldn't be very many would there. Ham found his father's tent. What did he do? He went looking for genitals to perv at. Having completed the viewing experience, Ham was all a-fizz and went looking for other sex perverts to share this new activity which had not been available on the ark. Ham’s brothers however were not sex perverts. Noah called down a curse upon Ham’s son. That's why it's called the curse of Ham.

How's it going so far? I was going to have a musical interlude but it's probably best if we keep on..





Well after scoring 1 on the Curse Of Ham you tailed of markedly

“.So what was the curse? Doesn't mention that does it?.”

Not only did I describe the historical record in some detail (which you can verify here) but quoted the curse in full, even including references to the non-pervert family members who were not cursed!

HERE IS THE CURSE again
And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him. And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren. And he said, Blessed be the LORD God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant. God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.

BANG! right there
Blasted in perpetuity forever



Can you guess what the curse is yet?


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Here's some music to help you think. It's essentially timbre based and just uses one note:

I know what the curse was, servitude! I was wanting to see if you were going the same route as the so-called christians and mormons regarding the negroes being cursed by the skin color, that is utter garbage! In reality negroes in America are cursed but not by the skin color! They are and have fulfilled prophecy recorded in Deuteronomy 28.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Where did the races come from?

Is there a special award available for Nobel laureates? We don't get too many on the forum. Anyway, I'm glad haDancer has continued posting.

..Ham's son! So what was the curse? Doesn't mention that does it?

I know what the curse was, servitude!

BIBLE DATA BASE And not just any old servitude. You mentioned Greek so I checked the LXX and the word signifies a household slave, rather than a prime minister such as Joseph was in Egypt (although he was also a slave).

So far so good. Now jump on an æroplane and zoom a bit. Visit Arabia, Liberia and stuff. Request historical reading material from the in flight library. Land in Johannesburg. Drive to Kruger Park (they've cancelled the train due to natives putting sleepers on the tracks and robbing everyone). Continue on up through Mozambique to Zambia and you should have a clear run all the way to Nigeria. Benin, Togo, Ghana, Côte d'Ivoire (avoid Yamoussoukro), Liberia and Sierra Leone (don't go to Freetown). Slaves by their tens of millions were trafficked into Arabia from these locations by Arabs and sold onto farther eastern slave markets. Not only Africans were traded in this way and some Africans also kept slaves yes, we know that. But no other continent has been plundered in this way. And who populated Africa after the flood? I have already posted the historical record of the movement of peoples. Which group have been traded as slaves unremittingly for the last 4,352 years [Ussher]? There can be no doubt which group is the cursée.

prophecy recorded in Deuteronomy 28

Next you went off on Deuteronomy. As it happens I have read Deuteronomy, which has no relevance whatsoever, but here's Deuteronomy 28 anyway:

Deuteronomy 28:1-2 And it shall come to pass, if thou shalt hearken diligently unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe and to do all his commandments which I command thee this day, that the LORD thy God will set thee on high above all nations of the earth: And all these blessings shall come on thee, and overtake thee, if thou shalt hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God.
3-12Blessed shalt thou be in the city, and blessed shalt thou be in the field. Blessed shall be the fruit of thy body, and the fruit of thy ground, and the fruit of thy cattle, the increase of thy kine, and the flocks of thy sheep. Blessed shall be thy basket and thy store. Blessed shalt thou be when thou comest in, and blessed shalt thou be when thou goest out. The LORD shall cause thine enemies that rise up against thee to be smitten before thy face: they shall come out against thee one way, and flee before thee seven ways. The LORD shall command the blessing upon thee in thy storehouses, and in all that thou settest thine hand unto; and he shall bless thee in the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee. The LORD shall establish thee an holy people unto himself, as he hath sworn unto thee, if thou shalt keep the commandments of the LORD thy God, and walk in his ways. And all people of the earth shall see that thou art called by the name of the LORD; and they shall be afraid of thee.
And the LORD shall make thee plenteous in goods, in the fruit of thy body, and in the fruit of thy cattle, and in the fruit of thy ground, in the land which the LORD sware unto thy fathers to give thee. The LORD shall open unto thee his good treasure, the heaven to give the rain unto thy land in his season, and to bless all the work of thine hand: and thou shalt lend unto many nations, and thou shalt not borrow.
13-14 And the LORD shall make thee the head, and not the tail; and thou shalt be above only, and thou shalt not be beneath; if that thou hearken unto the commandments of the LORD thy God, which I command thee this day, to observe and to do them: And thou shalt not go aside from any of the words which I command thee this day, to the right hand, or to the left, to go after other gods to serve them.
15 But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee:
16-32 Cursed shalt thou be in the city, and cursed shalt thou be in the field. Cursed shall be thy basket and thy store. Cursed shall be the fruit of thy body, and the fruit of thy land, the increase of thy kine, and the flocks of thy sheep. Cursed shalt thou be when thou comest in, and cursed shalt thou be when thou goest out. The LORD shall send upon thee cursing, vexation, and rebuke, in all that thou settest thine hand unto for to do, until thou be destroyed, and until thou perish quickly; because of the wickedness of thy doings, whereby thou hast forsaken me. The LORD shall make the pestilence cleave unto thee, until he have consumed thee from off the land, whither thou goest to possess it. The LORD shall smite thee with a consumption, and with a fever, and with an inflammation, and with an extreme burning, and with the sword, and with blasting, and with mildew; and they shall pursue thee until thou perish. And thy heaven that is over thy head shall be brass, and the earth that is under thee shall be iron. The LORD shall make the rain of thy land powder and dust: from heaven shall it come down upon thee, until thou be destroyed. The LORD shall cause thee to be smitten before thine enemies: thou shalt go out one way against them, and flee seven ways before them: and shalt be removed into all the kingdoms of the earth. And thy carcase shall be meat unto all fowls of the air, and unto the beasts of the earth, and no man shall fray them away. The LORD will smite thee with the botch of Egypt, and with the emerods, and with the scab, and with the itch, whereof thou canst not be healed. The LORD shall smite thee with madness, and blindness, and astonishment of heart: And thou shalt grope at noonday, as the blind gropeth in darkness, and thou shalt not prosper in thy ways: and thou shalt be only oppressed and spoiled evermore, and no man shall save thee. Thou shalt betroth a wife, and another man shall lie with her: thou shalt build an house, and thou shalt not dwell therein: thou shalt plant a vineyard, and shalt not gather the grapes thereof. Thine ox shall be slain before thine eyes, and thou shalt not eat thereof: thine ass shall be violently taken away from before thy face, and shall not be restored to thee: thy sheep shall be given unto thine enemies, and thou shalt have none to rescue them.
32-33 Thy sons and thy daughters shall be given unto another people, and thine eyes shall look, and fail with longing for them all the day long: and there shall be no might in thine hand. The fruit of thy land, and all thy labours, shall a nation which thou knowest not eat up; and thou shalt be only oppressed and crushed alway:
34 So that thou shalt be mad for the sight of thine eyes which thou shalt see.
35-57 The LORD shall smite thee in the knees, and in the legs, with a sore botch that cannot be healed, from the sole of thy foot unto the top of thy head. The LORD shall bring thee, and thy king which thou shalt set over thee, unto a nation which neither thou nor thy fathers have known; and there shalt thou serve other gods, wood and stone. And thou shalt become an astonishment, a proverb, and a byword, among all nations whither the LORD shall lead thee. Thou shalt carry much seed out into the field, and shalt gather but little in; for the locust shall consume it. Thou shalt plant vineyards, and dress them, but shalt neither drink of the wine, nor gather the grapes; for the worms shall eat them. Thou shalt have olive trees throughout all thy coasts, but thou shalt not anoint thyself with the oil; for thine olive shall cast his fruit. Thou shalt beget sons and daughters, but thou shalt not enjoy them; for they shall go into captivity. All thy trees and fruit of thy land shall the locust consume. The stranger that is within thee shall get up above thee very high; and thou shalt come down very low. He shall lend to thee, and thou shalt not lend to him: he shall be the head, and thou shalt be the tail. Moreover all these curses shall come upon thee, and shall pursue thee, and overtake thee, till thou be destroyed; because thou hearkenedst not unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which he commanded thee: And they shall be upon thee for a sign and for a wonder, and upon thy seed for ever. Because thou servedst not the LORD thy God with joyfulness, and with gladness of heart, for the abundance of all things; Therefore shalt thou serve thine enemies which the LORD shall send against thee, in hunger, and in thirst, and in nakedness, and in want of all things: and he shall put a yoke of iron upon thy neck, until he have destroyed thee. The LORD shall bring a nation against thee from far, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flieth; a nation whose tongue thou shalt not understand; A nation of fierce countenance, which shall not regard the person of the old, nor shew favour to the young: And he shall eat the fruit of thy cattle, and the fruit of thy land, until thou be destroyed: which also shall not leave thee either corn, wine, or oil, or the increase of thy kine, or flocks of thy sheep, until he have destroyed thee. And he shall besiege thee in all thy gates, until thy high and fenced walls come down, wherein thou trustedst, throughout all thy land: and he shall besiege thee in all thy gates throughout all thy land, which the LORD thy God hath given thee. And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, the flesh of thy sons and of thy daughters, which the LORD thy God hath given thee, in the siege, and in the straitness, wherewith thine enemies shall distress thee: So that the man that is tender among you, and very delicate, his eye shall be evil toward his brother, and toward the wife of his bosom, and toward the remnant of his children which he shall leave: So that he will not give to any of them of the flesh of his children whom he shall eat: because he hath nothing left him in the siege, and in the straitness, wherewith thine enemies shall distress thee in all thy gates. The tender and delicate woman among you, which would not adventure to set the sole of her foot upon the ground for delicateness and tenderness, her eye shall be evil toward the husband of her bosom, and toward her son, and toward her daughter, And toward her young one that cometh out from between her feet, and toward her children which she shall bear: for she shall eat them for want of all things secretly in the siege and straitness, wherewith thine enemy shall distress thee in thy gates.
58-59a If thou wilt not observe to do all the words of this law that are written in this book, that thou mayest fear this glorious and fearful name, THE LORD THY GOD; Then the LORD will make thy plagues wonderful
59b-68and the plagues of thy seed, even great plagues, and of long continuance, and sore sicknesses, and of long continuance. Moreover he will bring upon thee all the diseases of Egypt, which thou wast afraid of; and they shall cleave unto thee. Also every sickness, and every plague, which is not written in the book of this law, them will the LORD bring upon thee, until thou be destroyed. And ye shall be left few in number, whereas ye were as the stars of heaven for multitude; because thou wouldest not obey the voice of the LORD thy God. And it shall come to pass, that as the LORD rejoiced over you to do you good, and to multiply you; so the LORD will rejoice over you to destroy you, and to bring you to nought; and ye shall be plucked from off the land whither thou goest to possess it. And the LORD shall scatter thee among all people, from the one end of the earth even unto the other; and there thou shalt serve other gods, which neither thou nor thy fathers have known, even wood and stone. And among these nations shalt thou find no ease, neither shall the sole of thy foot have rest: but the LORD shall give thee there a trembling heart, and failing of eyes, and sorrow of mind: And thy life shall hang in doubt before thee; and thou shalt fear day and night, and shalt have none assurance of thy life: In the morning thou shalt say, Would God it were even! and at even thou shalt say, Would God it were morning! for the fear of thine heart wherewith thou shalt fear, and for the sight of thine eyes which thou shalt see. And the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships, by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you.
KJV .. look up .. context .. compare LXX

From the time of Hezekiah's reforms ca715BC through the era of Alexander the Great and the Hellenisation of their culture, rampant idolatry and rejection of God's Covenant, crushing by Rome following sundry skwarkings general insubordination and refusal to pay correct taxes despite receiving numerous benefits, all this on the heels of frequent episodes of disenfranchisement and rebooting as slaves—and occasionally as pets—followed by further rejection of God manifest in the flesh as Jesus exactly according to a cornucopia of prophecies subsequently reinterpreted or expunged altogether by the Masoretes, massacred in &/or deported from practically every country in Eurasia for an additional two thousand years, can you think of any other group than Africans to fit the circumstances described in Deuteronomy 28?

I'll give you a hint: they don't have a "J" in their alphabet.

But if you still think it's Africans, then you need to show at what point Moses gave them the 10 Commandments and the rest of the Law and how the promises in Deuteronomy were communicated to, for example, the Hottentot.

[mcl125]

Re: Where did the races come from?

Here's to me hoping you understand why we have science!

It is scientificly proven that all life descended from Africa, and as nomads we spread out into the world to cover more land and have tribes. Those who stayed in places where there was less sun gained less melanin in their skin pigment, thus making them white.
Any where with more sun had more melanin in their skin pigments, so they had darker skin to protect them from the sun.

Yay, science wins for all!

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Where did the races come from?

Here's to me hoping you understand why we have science!

It is scientificly proven that all life descended from Africa, and as nomads we spread out into the world to cover more land and have tribes. Those who stayed in places where there was less sun gained less melanin in their skin pigment, thus making them white.
Any where with more sun had more melanin in their skin pigments, so they had darker skin to protect them from the sun.

Yay, science wins for all!

By that logic, eskimos should have transparent skin.

[Jim Farmer]

Re: Where did the races come from?

Why does your avatar say you're banned and yet you keep posting?

Those who stayed in places where there was less sun gained less melanin in their skin pigment, thus making them white.
Any where with more sun had more melanin in their skin pigments, so they had darker skin to protect them from the sun.

Doesn't that totally disprove genetics? You're saying that physical appearance is based on God's environment and not genes.

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Re: Where did the races come from?

Here's to me hoping you understand why we have science!

It is scientificly proven that all life descended from Africa, and as nomads we spread out into the world to cover more land and have tribes. Those who stayed in places where there was less sun gained less melanin in their skin pigment, thus making them white.
Any where with more sun had more melanin in their skin pigments, so they had darker skin to protect them from the sun.

Yay, science wins for all!

I'd like to see your proof that all life descended from Africa. Not that I don't believe you, but as far as I know no one knows where the Garden of Eden was. It existed before the flood and the continents are all different now, so I didn't think we'd ever know where it was. However, if you can point me to the research that shows that the Garden of Eden was in what is now Africa, then I'd be much obliged.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[Nobar King]

Re: Where did the races come from?

This video shows how some races can be more advanced than other individuals in their species:

A fine example of the pot literally calling the kettle black.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: Where did the races come from?

I have no anger towards any creature, but you have to admit that race people are very different from us. I have seen them on television hooting and hollering jive speak while they sort of jog in place. I consider this very pagan behavior, the sort of thing that a Pentecostal might think is okay. Dark people also tend to move their hips more than normal, white folks. I attribute this to their uncontrollable sexual urges, such as that to rape white women.

I am not a racist, but, Adolf Hitler understood very well that mud people like Jews and Negros and slanty eyed people have a very different origin from the rest of us. The Bible accounts for this when it names Noah's descendants. Since everyone else was dead, we really could not be more distantly related from the Hamites (mud type race people).

[DemonThinker96]

Re: Where did the races come from?

I have no anger towards any creature, but you have to admit that race people are very different from us. I have seen them on television hooting and hollering jive speak while they sort of jog in place. I consider this very pagan behavior, the sort of thing that a Pentecostal might think is okay. Dark people also tend to move their hips more than normal, white folks. I attribute this to their uncontrollable sexual urges, such as that to rape white women.

I am not a racist, but, Adolf Hitler understood very well that mud people like Jews and Negros and slanty eyed people have a very different origin from the rest of us. The Bible accounts for this when it names Noah's descendants. Since everyone else was dead, we really could not be more distantly related from the Hamites (mud type race people).

rac·ism-prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.


Seems racist to me

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Where did the races come from?

You have a strange view of Landover Baptist Church. If you were one of the sons of the One High God, would you not be just a little “special”?

Suppose that you were a child of the One High God… If you saw a child of a lesser god, is it not simply true that you would be superior? You certainly would have many more advantages.

As for the charge of racism, this is ludicrous. Landover has an anti-racism policy more severe than any you can imagine. One word from a Pastor and you’re out and all rights to entry to Heaven are canceled.

What’s the worst that will happen to you if, provoked by a nigra, you give him a few home-truths? For you, nothing.

Perhaps you would like to apologize to us all…

[Basilissa]

Re: Where did the races come from?

rac·ism-prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.

Seems racist to me

Are you calling Jesus racist????

Matthew 15:22-26
22 And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil.
23 But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us.
24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
25 Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me.
26 But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs.

He does heal the girl after the mother humiliates herself in public, accepting her status as a lesser race:

Matthew 15:27-28
27 And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table.
28 Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: Where did the races come from?

rac·ism-prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.


Seems racist to me

I don't get it. Are you implying that I am racist? Never in all my years has any soul accused me of such a horrible thing. I have sponsored a family of niglets with loyalty and devotion for the last several years, ensuring that they have a steady supply of Bibles and aspirin to treat the ebola or AIDS or whatever diseases they probably have. Have you ever sponsored even one niglet?

[DemonThinker96]

Re: Where did the races come from?

I don't get it. Are you implying that I am racist? Never in all my years has any soul accused me of such a horrible thing. I have sponsored a family of niglets with loyalty and devotion for the last several years, ensuring that they have a steady supply of Bibles and aspirin to treat the ebola or AIDS or whatever diseases they probably have. Have you ever sponsored even one niglet?

Actually, I am sponsering one right now, but they aren't "niglet's". They are black people

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Where did the races come from?

Actually, I am sponsering one right now, but they aren't "niglet's". They are black people

In your demonic world, I can only imagine what "sponsor" is a euphemism for....