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  • Giovanni Boccaccio
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    Re: Are You an Atheist?

    Originally posted by Pim Pendergast View Post

    God loves all, even atheists
    Um . . . no, He doesn't.

    [B]Leviticus 20:23 And ye shall not walk in the manners of the nation, which I cast out before you: for they committed all these things, and therefore I abhorred them.

    The answer is in the Bible (Mat 27:57-60).

    It's times like these that I'm reminded of that one kid in class who had to have everything explained to him. For example, they told him to write something on the blackboard, and he objected that the board was dark green (we had a dark green blackboard), which used chalk. We explained that "blackboard" was the term we used to describe our green board. I suppose in the same way, when someone says "I hated them", specifically in ANE language, it means their practices were detested. We see in Ruth, the Moabitess, that the people themselves were not hated.

    Of course, I will tolerate you since from the picture you have on your profile, you seem to have those eyeglasses rather loosely; perhaps they weren't on when you were reading the Bible half the time.

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  • Pim Pendergast
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    Re: Are You an Atheist?

    Originally posted by TheBigJLover69 View Post
    . . .
    Please start a thread in the introduction forum and tell us what church you go to, what your favorite Bible verse is and how you came to find Jesus.

    Who gives you the right to say that about her? "God" said in the bible that the person without sin should be the person to cast the first stone.
    So if you're without sin, and all True Christians™ are (1 Jn 5:18), then you can cast stones.

    "God" loves everyone, including Atheists.
    Um . . . no, He doesn't.

    Leviticus 20:23 And ye shall not walk in the manners of the nation, which I cast out before you: for they committed all these things, and therefore I abhorred them.

    Leviticus 26:30 And I will destroy your high places, and cut down your images, and cast your carcases upon the carcases of your idols, and my soul shall abhor you.

    Deuteronomy 32:19 And when the LORD saw it, he abhorred them, because of the provoking of his sons, and of his daughters.

    Psalm 5:5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.

    Psalm 5:6 Thou shalt destroy them that speak leasing: the LORD will abhor the bloody and deceitful man.

    Psalm 10:3 For the wicked boasteth of his heart's desire, and blesseth the covetous, whom the LORD abhorreth.

    Psalm 11:5 The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.

    Psalm 53:5 There were they in great fear, where no fear was: for God hath scattered the bones of him that encampeth against thee: thou hast put them to shame, because God hath despised them.

    Psalm 73:20 As a dream when one awaketh; so, O Lord, when thou awakest, thou shalt despise their image.

    Psalm 78:59 When God heard this, he was wroth, and greatly abhorred Israel:

    Psalm 106:40 Therefore was the wrath of the LORD kindled against his people, insomuch that he abhorred his own inheritance.

    Proverbs 6:16-19 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

    Proverbs 22:14 The mouth of strange women is a deep pit: he that is abhorred of the LORD shall fall therein.

    Lamentations 2:6 And he hath violently taken away his tabernacle, as if it were of a garden: he hath destroyed his places of the assembly: the LORD hath caused the solemn feasts and sabbaths to be forgotten in Zion, and hath despised in the indignation of his anger the king and the priest.

    Hosea 9:15 All their wickedness is in Gilgal: for there I hated them: for the wickedness of their doings I will drive them out of mine house, I will love them no more: all their princes are revolters.

    Amos 5:21 I hate, I despise your feast days, and I will not smell in your solemn assemblies.

    Zechariah 11:8 Three shepherds also I cut off in one month; and my soul lothed them, and their soul also abhorred me.

    Malachi 1:3 And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.

    Romans 9:13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

    Revelation 2:6; 15 But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitanes, which I also hate.


    Besides, Christianity isn't that far off from Judaism.
    It's very different from modern Judaism, but the Old Testament saints were Christians.

    Originally posted by Pim Pendergast View Post
    Old Testament Saints
    But they weren’t Christians back then! Oh yes, they were. Although the word Christian doesn’t appear until the NT (Acts 11:26), Abraham was a Christian.

    Jn 8:56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my [Jesus’] day: and he saw [it], and was glad.

    God preached the Gospel to him.

    Gen 12:1-3
    1 Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee:
    2 And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing:
    3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

    But that’s not John 3:16! That’s not the Gospel! That just goes to show how little you FBLC’s know.

    Gal 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

    All True Christians™ are children of Abraham. We share the same faith he had.

    Gal 3:7, 9 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham. So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.

    There is no other Gospel. If the Gospel God preached to Abraham seems foreign to you, then you have believed a false Gospel.

    Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

    Moses and Elijah were also Christians, for they believed in Jesus and knew he would temporarily die for their sins.

    Lk 9:28-36
    28 And it came to pass about an eight days after these sayings, he took Peter and John and James, and went up into a mountain to pray.
    29 And as he prayed, the fashion of his countenance was altered, and his raiment [was] white [and] glistering.
    30 And, behold, there talked with him two men, which were Moses and Elias:
    31 Who appeared in glory, and spake of his decease which he should accomplish at Jerusalem.


    King David was also a Christian, for Jesus was his Lord.

    Mat 22:42-45
    41 While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them,
    42 Saying, What think ye of Christ? whose son is he? They say unto him, [The Son] of David.
    43 He saith unto them, How then doth David in spirit call him Lord, saying,
    44 The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool?
    45 If David then call him Lord, how is he his son?


    The heroes of the faith in Hebrews 11 are set forth as examples for the Christian. Among them, Abraham is commended to us for being willing to sacrifice his son (Heb 11:17-19). Isaac is commended to us for being tricked into blessing the wrong son (Heb 11:20). Gideon, who later in his life became an idolater, is commended to us, as is Samson, who killed hundreds of Philistine men and women and himself, and Jephthah, who sacrificed his own daughter and killed 42,000 of his own countrymen (Heb 11:32). All of these OT saints received a good report for their faith (Heb 11:2, 39). Their faith pleased God (Heb 11:5-6). They are witnesses who inspire us to look to Christ and run the race set before us (Heb 12:1-2). But more than that, they believed they would go to heaven after they died, the same heaven we believe in.

    Heb 11:10, 13-14, 16
    10 For he [Abraham] looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker [is] God.
    13 These all [Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Sarah] died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of [them], and embraced [them], and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.
    14 For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country.
    16 But now they desire a better [country], that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.

    This is an amazing revelation, considering nowhere in the OT do the OT saints confess they were strangers and pilgrims on earth.
    The followers of Judaism didn't mock the followers of other religions, nor did they call anyone a "Godmocking whore".
    Perhaps not modern Jews, but Elijah mocked the prophets of baal.

    1 Ki 18:27 And it came to pass at noon, that Elijah mocked them, and said, Cry aloud: for he is a god; either he is talking, or he is pursuing, or he is in a journey, or peradventure he sleepeth, and must be awaked.

    I also need to ask a question. Why was "Jesus" buried in a tomb instead of a mass grave? Scientists have proven that graves existed back then, so why not put "Jesus" in one? Maybe one of "Jesus's" followers paid for the crypt? There are so many questions, yet so little answers. Good game, Christianity.
    The answer is in the Bible (Mat 27:57-60).

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  • Alphonse Alban
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    Re: Are You an Atheist?

    Originally posted by TheBigJLover69 View Post
    "God" loves everyone, including Atheists.
    Not according to Jesus. Why do you think He created hell for? Have you ever read John 3:16-18?

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  • TheBigJLover69
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    Re: Are You an Atheist?

    Who gives you the right to say that about her? "God" said in the bible that the person without sin should be the person to cast the first stone. "God" loves everyone, including Atheists. Everyone on this site should be alot more compassionate, instead of calling one a "Godmocking whore". Besides, Christianity isn't that far off from Judaism. The followers of Judaism didn't mock the followers of other religions, nor did they call anyone a "Godmocking whore". I also need to ask a question. Why was "Jesus" buried in a tomb instead of a mass grave? Scientists have proven that graves existed back then, so why not put "Jesus" in one? Maybe one of "Jesus's" followers paid for the crypt? There are so many questions, yet so little answers. Good game, Christianity.

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  • Attila's Wife
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    Re: Are You an Atheist?

    Originally posted by therearenogods View Post
    so ja and Einstein never turned hes last words were German to a nurse who only spoke English no one knew hes last words they are lost
    What language is that supposed to be? Are you also German?

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  • Basilissa
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    Re: Are You an Atheist?

    Originally posted by therearenogods View Post
    i hope im not violating your existence
    Ehm... WHAT? Are you soliciting on this Godly website?

    or whatever but im here to say and this is a real occurrence that atheism and agnostics are and have been doubling every 20 years since the 1970s and in little over the next 100 years western religion will almost be completely vanished
    These are the End Days, so yes, Christians are becoming a persecuted minority... But we shall overcome!

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  • therearenogods
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    Re: Are You an Atheist?

    i hope im not violating your existence or whatever but im here to say and this is a real occurrence that atheism and agnostics are and have been doubling every 20 years since the 1970s and in little over the next 100 years western religion will almost be completely vanished i could bother with reference but you will accuse me of being Satan or something so ja and Einstein never turned hes last words were German to a nurse who only spoke English no one knew hes last words they are lost

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  • Pastor Ezekiel
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    Re: Are You an Atheist?

    Originally posted by MartinLutherLover View Post
    Atheists rely on science. Science relies on theories. Theories rely on scattered evidence that is weak and flawed and manipulated by atheist "scientists". The Bible is a direct link to God. Am I right?
    "my advice... is: first, that their synagogues be burned down, and that all who are able toss sulphur and pitch; it would be good if someone could also throw in some hellfire.." Martin Luther ("On the jews and their lies" 1543)
    Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

    And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

    I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire.

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  • Pim Pendergast
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    Re: Are You an Atheist?

    Originally posted by MartinLutherLover View Post
    The Bible is a direct link to God. Am I right?
    And water is wet. I notice you still haven't formally introduced yourself. How about start a thread in the introduction forum and tell us what church you go to, what your favorite Bible verse is and how you came to find Jesus?

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  • MartinLutherLover
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    Re: Are You an Atheist?

    Atheists rely on science. Science relies on theories. Theories rely on scattered evidence that is weak and flawed and manipulated by atheist "scientists". The Bible is a direct link to God. Am I right?

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  • Pastor Ezekiel
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    Re: Are You an Atheist?

    Originally posted by The Creator View Post
    my intention was not to start a debate i have no interest in debating with with beings of inferior intellect. I simply wanted to inform you that your god is flawed and a flawed god is no god at all
    Dear Godmocking Whore;

    Thank you for taking the time out of your busy schedule of worshiping satan and spreading your legs for anyone with a dollar to post this hateful message. The Holy Bible tells us that we are actually Blessed by your persecution! Thanks for proving that we're right.

    Matthew 5:10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
    5:11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
    5:12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.
    Enjoy hell. I know that Jesus and I can't wait to watch you burn in hell for all eternity. Oh, how we'll laugh at you as you scream in agony! Shout Glory!!

    YIC,

    --Pastor Ezekiel

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  • The Creator
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    Re: Are You an Atheist?

    Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
    First of all, this is NOT a debate forum. We're right and you're wrong, according to Jesus and the Holy Word of God. Please read THIS thread before making an even bigger fool of yourself.

    Secondly, while the internets might seem to be "free" to you, this particular corner of the internets is a privately owned Christian forum. The rights you have on this forum are listed HERE. Please contact a Pastor immediately if you feel that any of your rights have been violated.

    Finally, your unsaved opinions or tantrums are not even slightly of interest to us. We follow the Holy Word of God TO THE LETTER, and make no apologies for that. One of the most important commandments in the Bible tells us to avoid unsaved scum such as yourself. You wandered in here uninvited, and unwelcome .

    If you want to debate people, THIS is the place to go.

    Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

    And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

    I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire.

    my intention was not to start a debate i have no interest in debating with with beings of inferior intellect. I simply wanted to inform you that your god is flawed and a flawed god is no god at all

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  • Pastor Ezekiel
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    Re: Are You an Atheist?

    Originally posted by The Creator View Post
    question....god created everything that exists today correct? and god is all knowing correct? so why would god make a tree of knowledge? isn't that unnecessary for an all knowing god? my other question is if god created Satan and god is indeed all knowing wouldn't he have known Satan would come to betray him and corrupt mankind. now if god didn't know any of this i can understand but you couldn't really call him god then could you? and if he did the blame for all the evil in the world should fall on him. he created a son to die needlessly for sin he created. he killed every human being in the world because he didn't agree with the way they lived their lives but he gave them free will.
    he gives us rules to live our lives by but doesn't follow a single one of them. if the rules god gave us make us good people in the eyes of god and he doesn't follow them what does that make him? I'll tell you, it makes him a evil hypocrite.
    this is the god you follow, this is the god you love. does it seem a little strange that a god that has shown himself and spoken in a thunderous voice from the sky in the bible has never once done it in any of your lifetimes? where is your god?
    First of all, this is NOT a debate forum. We're right and you're wrong, according to Jesus and the Holy Word of God. Please read THIS thread before making an even bigger fool of yourself.

    Secondly, while the internets might seem to be "free" to you, this particular corner of the internets is a privately owned Christian forum. The rights you have on this forum are listed HERE. Please contact a Pastor immediately if you feel that any of your rights have been violated.

    Finally, your unsaved opinions or tantrums are not even slightly of interest to us. We follow the Holy Word of God TO THE LETTER, and make no apologies for that. One of the most important commandments in the Bible tells us to avoid unsaved scum such as yourself. You wandered in here uninvited, and unwelcome .

    If you want to debate people, THIS is the place to go.

    Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

    And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

    I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire.

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  • The Creator
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    Re: Are You an Atheist?

    question....god created everything that exists today correct? and god is all knowing correct? so why would god make a tree of knowledge? isn't that unnecessary for an all knowing god? my other question is if god created Satan and god is indeed all knowing wouldn't he have known Satan would come to betray him and corrupt mankind. now if god didn't know any of this i can understand but you couldn't really call him god then could you? and if he did the blame for all the evil in the world should fall on him. he created a son to die needlessly for sin he created. he killed every human being in the world because he didn't agree with the way they lived their lives but he gave them free will.
    he gives us rules to live our lives by but doesn't follow a single one of them. if the rules god gave us make us good people in the eyes of god and he doesn't follow them what does that make him? I'll tell you, it makes him a evil hypocrite.
    this is the god you follow, this is the god you love. does it seem a little strange that a god that has shown himself and spoken in a thunderous voice from the sky in the bible has never once done it in any of your lifetimes? where is your god?

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  • John Creeser
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    Re: Are You an Atheist?

    Originally posted by HonestDisagreer View Post
    I never said that I was very good at it. But you are right, no more jokes about the bible if I want to play ball.
    Thank you. That is a step in the right direction.

    What about the Ecumenical council?
    If memory serves they were ring kissing papist scum. We're Baptists, perhaps you would like to read why the wafer munching whores of Babylon are NOT CHRISTIANS.

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