[Old Man Hatchet]

Re: Miscarriages: Who is at Fault?

How dare you blame the woman for the death of her child. A miscarriage is a terrible loss of life but it's not anybody's fault, it's just nature. You are very insensitive and I'm embarassed to be in the same species as you. You clearly do not espouse christian values.

Interesting how you liberals call the fetus a "child" when it's a miscarriage and "just a bunch of cells" when it's an abortion.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Miscarriages: Who is at Fault?

How dare you blame the woman for the death of her child. A miscarriage is a terrible loss of life but it's not anybody's fault, it's just nature. You are very insensitive and I'm embarassed to be in the same species as you. You clearly do not espouse christian values.

I am going to leave your post un-infactionized, Brother Hatchet can decided what is best for you, but you are way out of line. Brother Hatchet presents FACTS and WISDOM only a man of his life experience can deliver. All you can do in reply is talk about "christian values", Well friend, we only use TRUE Christian values here so keep your wishy washy genuine Christians values to yourself.

[Cranky Old Man]

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You are very insensitive

It is you who is insensitive by completely ignoring the poor murdered children and only focusing on the bloodthirsty mothers who did the killing.

and I'm embarassed to be in the same species as you

You are not. We are True Christians™, you are unsaved trash.

You clearly do not espouse christian values

Wrong again. Unlike you, we follow The LORD's commandments! Exodus 20:13 "Thou shalt not kill."

[James Hutchins]

Re: Miscarriages: Who is at Fault?

So, how come the father could never be at fault? Could it not be a punishment to the father? First born and all that?

The only way the father could possibly be at fault would be if he jumped up and down on the pregnant womans belly. Any other injury it is up to the female to protect the baby. As a female, you have no one to blame but yourself.

How dare you blame the woman for the death of her child. A miscarriage is a terrible loss of life but it's not anybody's fault, it's just nature. You are very insensitive and I'm embarassed to be in the same species as you. You clearly do not espouse christian values.

Nature? Are you drunk again?

Who got pregnant? - The woman
Who was carrying the baby? - The woman
Who was responsible for the babies safety? - The woman

God and man impregnated the woman. It is her simple job to cook the baby in her baby. It is not like baking a pie. More like making a grilled cheese. Children can do it successfully.

[Oakland "Reb" Griner]

Re: Miscarriages: Who is at Fault?

Not to be indelicate, but a few of these miscarriages seem to be monstrous deformities, perhaps demon spoor, and it might rather be a blessing for a merciful God to expunge these foul foals of Satan before they can emerge from their lairs and perpetrate their vile evils upon the world.

[TruePath]

Re: Miscarriages: Who is at Fault?

You are indeed correct, Brother Hatchet. According to this graph from the year 2000, one year before the attacks on the World Trade Center, the United States ranks next to Godless Communist Cuba in infant mortality.

This may seem like mothers in the United States are failing more than those in other countries, but the reality is that all of the countries above are separated by only a small percentage, and lots of babies are dying in every country- that's why they keep these stats.

Nevertheless, the message could not be simpler: take better care of your fetus.

Praise Allah ! No Muslim country is on the graph! do you think this is by coincidence?

[James Hutchins]

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Praise Allah ! No Muslim country is on the graph! do you think this is by coincidence?

Not at all. They wanted to keep the graph valid. They know, just like everyone does, mooslime is a passing fad, like Tiffany was. One day soo, you piss drinkers will be gone and the graph, still accurate.

[TruePath]

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Not at all. They wanted to keep the graph valid. They know, just like everyone does, mooslime is a passing fad, like Tiffany was. One day soo, you piss drinkers will be gone and the graph, still accurate.

THat has to be the dumbest excuse for an blatant sign from God you could come up with..?

The reason is, James, just as there are no homosexuals in Islamic countries such as Saudi Arabia and Iran there are also no miscarriages because we live a life glorifying God and His Apostle.

You American infidels have so much gay homos and sin that no wonder your miscarriages are so high.

Insha'Allah when we gain enough power and majority in the Senate the figures will decrease.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Miscarriages: Who is at Fault?

You have miscarriages, you just eat the dead baby.

Your countries are infested with sodomites. One big do not ask, do not tell.

Allah has not enough power to light a penlight. What is his name? Bob? Just some random fellow. Riiiight.....

[Dirk]

Re: Miscarriages: Who is at Fault?

THat has to be the dumbest excuse for an blatant sign from God you could come up with..?

The reason is, James, just as there are no homosexuals in Islamic countries such as Saudi Arabia and Iran there are also no miscarriages because we live a life glorifying God and His Apostle.

You American infidels have so much gay homos and sin that no wonder your miscarriages are so high.

Insha'Allah when we gain enough power and majority in the Senate the figures will decrease.

Ofcourse you don't have homosexuals in Islamic countries like Iran, because you hang them. This implies you once had them. You don't seem to understand you are trying to cover up your problems. Your problem is that you follow a false prophet. Your "knowledge" regarding homosexuals and miscarriages was forseen by the Lord.

Isaiah 44:25


That frustrateth the tokens of the liars, and maketh diviners mad; that turneth wise men backward, and maketh their knowledge foolish;

[Zeppelin123]

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Doctors tell us that miscarriages are the result of "chromosomal abnormalities" or "progesterone deficiency." I find that very hard to believe, mainly because I don't know what those words mean.

Women, if you experience a miscarriage, you have no one to blame but yourselves. You have done something to make God angry. Think hard, ladies. When you were opening that can of vegetables last week, did you have a salacious and speculative thought about the size of the Green Giant's "asparagus spear"?



Or maybe you haven't been cleaning enough. Or you've been cleaning too much and neglecting your husband. Perhaps you've cleaned the perfect amount and have taken too much pride in that fact. The point is you have done something to kill your baby.

In the off-chance that you haven't done anything wrong, then the fetus must have.



A developing cell could have touched another developing cell inappropriately. It's also possible that your baby was a pervert who got off on being inside a cooter. Regardless, you are still culpable because the above wickedness happened under your roof, so to speak.

We are battling enemies in Iraq and Afghanistan. We must also be prepared to squelch the growing evil in places like North Korea, Iran, and Berkeley. We need Christian soldiers. Straighten up, women and fetuses. America is depending on you.

God says that we shall not die for the sins of our fathers (i'm guessing he includes mothers too) so why should the child (even if unborn) be punished for parents "evil thoughts." maybe it was the father that had impure thoughts and the woman was totally pure?

[BelieverInGod]

Re: Miscarriages: Who is at Fault?

God says that we shall not die for the sins of our fathers (i'm guessing he includes mothers too) so why should the child (even if unborn) be punished for parents "evil thoughts." maybe it was the father that had impure thoughts and the woman was totally pure?

You're guessing? Did God say that he wouldn't punish us for the sins of our mother? Is that why we can be punished for the following?

Genesis 3:16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
All women are punished for what Eve did.

Deuteronomy 23:2 A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD.
Well there you go, being punished up to the 10th generation because your great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandmother was a whore.

[jesua ge]

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You're guessing? Did God say that he wouldn't punish us for the sins of our mother? Is that why we can be punished for the following?

Genesis 3:16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
All women are punished for what Eve did.

Deuteronomy 23:2 A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD.
Well there you go, being punished up to the 10th generation because your great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandmother was a whore.

When I first read this thread, I thought it was a joke. My wife and I as good Christians were browsing for websites that could help us cope with the loss of our unborn child.

I am shocked to see my fellow christian in the initial post, discount explanations because, he doesn't understand "what those words mean"

The definitions are as follows:

Chromosomal abnormalities result from mutations which change the number of chromosomes (numerical abnormalities) or change the structure of the chromosome (structural abnormalities). They may alter the ability of the cell to survive and function.

Progesterone deficiency is the result of aging. As women get older they lose their ability to produce progesterone(a growth hormone vital to the development of the fetus)



there is “no condemnation for those who belong to Christ Jesus” (Romans 8:1).

Jeremiah 1:5 says that God knows us while we are still in the womb.

Lamentations 3:33 tells us that God “does not enjoy hurting people or causing them sorrow.”

Jesus promised to leave us with a gift of peace unlike any that the world can give (John 14:27).

“I have told you all this so that you may have peace in me. Here on earth you will have many trials and sorrows. But take heart, because I have overcome the world” (John 16:33).

This has been a terrible experience to go through, as devout Christians. I hope that none of you ever has to endure this hardship.


It is not christian to condemn those who are different from you.

God help us all

GE

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Miscarriages: Who is at Fault?

It is not christian to condemn those who are different from you.


GE

Lamentations 3:64-66
64Render unto them a recompence, O LORD, according to the work of their hands.

65Give them sorrow of heart, thy curse unto them. 66Persecute and destroy them in anger from under the heavens of the LORD.

Funny what happens when you look at things in context, no?

[jesua ge]

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[QUOTE=Redeemed Papist;791158]Lamentations 3:64-66
64Render unto them a recompence, O LORD, according to the work of their hands.

65Give them sorrow of heart, thy curse unto them. 66Persecute and destroy them in anger from under the heavens of the LORD.

Funny what happens when you look at things in context, no?[



Agreed. I now see the error of my ways, and understand the bible verses that show me the right way of thinking. My sinner wife shall rot for miscarrying my child. Praise the good lord for showing me the light.