[Dr. Isaiah Jones]

Re: Miscarriages: Who is at Fault?

Agreed. I now see the error of my ways, and understand the bible verses that show me the right way of thinking. My sinner wife shall rot for miscarrying my child. Praise the good lord for showing me the light.

Perhaps you've got some sense of Biblical logic after all. Why don't you tell us more about yourself in the Introduction Forum?

[Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson]

Re: Miscarriages: Who is at Fault?

When I first read this thread, I thought it was a joke. My wife and I as good Christians were browsing for websites that could help us cope with the loss of our unborn child.

Jeremiah 1:5 says that God knows us while we are still in the womb.

Unfortunately, that's not quite right. God is speaking to Jeremiah in the womb. He isn't referring to all children.

See it in context.
3It came also in the days of Jehoiakim the son of Josiah king of Judah, unto the end of the eleventh year of Zedekiah the son of Josiah king of Judah, unto the carrying away of Jerusalem captive in the fifth month.
4Then the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
5Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.
6Then said I, Ah, Lord GOD! behold, I cannot speak: for I am a child.
7But the LORD said unto me, Say not, I am a child: for thou shalt go to all that I shall send thee, and whatsoever I command thee thou shalt speak.

Lamentations 3:33 tells us that God “does not enjoy hurting people or causing them sorrow.”

Brother Redeemed Papist answered that one well for you.

Jesus promised to leave us with a gift of peace unlike any that the world can give (John 14:27).

Jesus specifically said he didn't come to bring peace.

34Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
37He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
38And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.
39He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.

To be continued.

[Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson]

Re: Miscarriages: Who is at Fault?

I'm sorry for your loss, btw. The good Lord never gives us more than we can handle.

I'll be praying for you.

John 14:13-14
And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.

I'm sorry you're prayers weren't answered, friend. Sometimes that's just the way it goes, I guess.

James 5:16 Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.

John 9:5 Now we know that God heareth not sinners: but if any man be a worshipper of God, and doeth his will, him he heareth.

[MisterM]

Re: Miscarriages: Who is at Fault?

I'm now wondering that maybe my wife's miscarriage was actually message from God and permission to get a divorce. I'm not sure if she is willing really submit herself and make new soldiers for Christ™

Anyway, after the miscarriage, she has been kind of distant and she has had "those days" too often. At least when I have been ready for the Christ, it has always been that she can't.

I'm just a little bit concerned about this:

Matthew 19:9 - And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

But I God made my wife have miscarriage, it must have been punishment for adultery. I think I need help of senior Pastors here

YiC, M

[TheDevilsTodger]

Re: Miscarriages: Who is at Fault?

Hey dudes, i'm living in the 21st century.

first of all 'I'm now wondering that maybe my wife's miscarriage was actually message from God and permission to get a divorce.' that is just f'ed up sh*t...you are using your religion to interpret situations in life for your own personal benefit, MAN UP.

TRY READING UP ON A THING CALLED SCIENCE, might explain a few things to your closed minds.


'Think hard, ladies. When you were opening that can of vegetables last week, did you have a salacious and speculative thought about the size of the Green Giant's "asparagus spear"?' --- oh really! *smacks head* i think about that big ol' green dudes tasty asparagus everyday, never miscarried yet! Wait, if i imagine me winning the lottery, i never will! <--- just as stupid a logic as yours...people win the lottery all the time.


Make love, not silly explanations...

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Miscarriages: Who is at Fault?

Hey dudes, i'm living in the 21st century.

first of all 'I'm now wondering that maybe my wife's miscarriage was actually message from God and permission to get a divorce.' that is just f'ed up sh*t...you are using your religion to interpret situations in life for your own personal benefit, MAN UP.

What else is religion for than a guide on how to live you life?

Faith, how does that work TheDevilsTodger?

TRY READING UP ON A THING CALLED SCIENCE, might explain a few things to your closed minds.

Beyond giving an biological explanation on how the miscarriage happened how is that going to tell the husband how to react to his wife's murder of his kid? That is what religion is for friend.

Know how something happened is not the same as how to react to it.

'Think hard, ladies. When you were opening that can of vegetables last week, did you have a salacious and speculative thought about the size of the Green Giant's "asparagus spear"?' --- oh really! *smacks head* i think about that big ol' green dudes tasty asparagus everyday, never miscarried yet! Wait, if i imagine me winning the lottery, i never will! <--- just as stupid a logic as yours...people win the lottery all the time.

You think about playing the lottery before you play it. Same holds true with giant asparagus.

[MisterM]

Re: Miscarriages: Who is at Fault?

that is just f'ed up sh*t...you are using your religion to interpret situations in life for your own personal benefit, MAN UP.

How would divorce be for my personal benefit? Please explain. I only want to please the God and fill the earth with believing sons.

Gen 1:28 - And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

If my wife is not willing to fulfill the will of God, does God want me to find someone that does? And my wife has sinned

1 Cor 7:15 - But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace.

Matt 19:9 - And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

YiC, M

[shellyboobz]

Re: Miscarriages: Who is at Fault?

why is it then that millions of pregnant women around the world involve themselves in all kinds of acts including masturbation, adultery, violence against innocent people, theft, murder or just go out and get totally wasted on drink and drugs yet go on to have healthy babies if something as ridiculous as looking at a tine of sweetcorn will upset god enough to make you miscarry?

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Miscarriages: Who is at Fault?

why is it then that millions of pregnant women around the world involve themselves in all kinds of acts including masturbation, adultery, violence against innocent people, theft, murder or just go out and get totally wasted on drink and drugs yet go on to have healthy babies if something as ridiculous as looking at a tine of sweetcorn will upset god enough to make you miscarry?

You could ask God when you die but you'll be too busy burning in Hell to be bothered, I guess.

Why are all God-haters obsessed with getting God to justify Himself?

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Miscarriages: Who is at Fault?

why is it then that millions of pregnant women around the world involve themselves in all kinds of acts including masturbation, adultery, violence against innocent people, theft, murder or just go out and get totally wasted on drink and drugs yet go on to have healthy babies if something as ridiculous as looking at a tine of sweetcorn will upset god enough to make you miscarry?

Who are these women? I want names, otherwise I will suspect you of making things up.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Miscarriages: Who is at Fault?

why is it then that millions of pregnant women around the world involve themselves in all kinds of acts including masturbation, adultery, violence against innocent people, theft, murder or just go out and get totally wasted on drink and drugs yet go on to have healthy babies if something as ridiculous as looking at a tine of sweetcorn will upset god enough to make you miscarry?

The answer to your hateful and confusing rant is simple: Through Jesus, all things are possible. Shout GLORY!

Acts 28:3 And when Paul had gathered a bundle of sticks, and laid them on the fire, there came a viper out of the heat, and fastened on his hand.
28:4 And when the barbarians saw the venomous beast hang on his hand, they said among themselves, No doubt this man is a murderer, whom, though he hath escaped the sea, yet vengeance suffereth not to live.
28:5 And he shook off the beast into the fire, and felt no harm.
28:6 Howbeit they looked when he should have swollen, or fallen down dead suddenly: but after they had looked a great while, and saw no harm come to him, they changed their minds, and said that he was a god.