[Humongous]

Re: Impregnating your own daughter is NOT rape! (Genesis 19:32-36

well, it's true in the feline world as well. I seen plenty of my cats have they litters, and the daddy cat has relations with his own daughter. The daughter cat don't seem to mind none.

[Frederick Bloomers]

Re: Impregnating your own daughter is NOT rape! (Genesis 19:32-36

Don't we have to obey secular law in the meantime though?

However, this is a good interpretation of the scriptures, and I hope one day it becomes legal when America becomes a theocracy.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Impregnating your own daughter is NOT rape! (Genesis 19:32-36

Don't we have to obey secular law in the meantime though?

However, this is a good interpretation of the scriptures, and I hope one day it becomes legal when America becomes a theocracy.

Meaning what to you Englishman?

Keep in mind it's you Queen worshiping country that started the slide towards secularism and macrosodomy with the Age of Reason.

[Hawk]

Re: Impregnating your own daughter is NOT rape! (Genesis 19:32-36

First of all, nobody is talking about rape except you. Impregnating your own daughter is 100% biblically acceptable. If someone says else, he is not True Christian.

And other thing here is that many of these threads are just theological debate. Where does Cranky Old Man say, that he has to do it?

You know, you are so full of hate. Why do you hate God?

YiC,
Miikkael

100% Biblical, really? First off, you are not married to your daughter and secondly you will be see as a fornicator/sexual immoral and as we know, fornicators will not enter the Kingdom of God!

1 Corinthians 6:9-10
King James Version (KJV)
9Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

You call yourself a true Christian, but believes willfully sleeping with your daughter is 100% Biblical?

I wonder if you know that there are different Covenants between man and God, Christians follow the New Covenant and are disciples of Jesus Christ.

Do you believe Jesus would ever want you to sleep with your daughter and hurt your wife so deeply? some true Christian you are my friend.

May I also remind you,
Galatians 3:28
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

We are all equal in the eyes of the Lord, who are we to exalt ourselves as men, thinking we are something special and women is not.......

BTW. Is it also 100% Biblical for the mother to sleep with her son?

Be blessed!

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: Impregnating your own daughter is NOT rape! (Genesis 19:32-36

100% Biblical, really? First off, you are not married to your daughter and secondly you will be see as a fornicator/sexual immoral and as we know, fornicators will not enter the Kingdom of God!

1 Corinthians 6:9-10
King James Version (KJV)
9Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

You call yourself a true Christian, but believes willfully sleeping with your daughter is 100% Biblical?

I wonder if you know that there are different Covenants between man and God, Christians follow the New Covenant and are disciples of Jesus Christ.

Do you believe Jesus would ever want you to sleep with your daughter and hurt your wife so deeply? some true Christian you are my friend.

May I also remind you,
Galatians 3:28
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

We are all equal in the eyes of the Lord, who are we to exalt ourselves as men, thinking we are something special and women is not.......

BTW. Is it also 100% Biblical for the mother to sleep with her son?

Be blessed!

These issues and questions are all addressed in the Original Post.

[Hawk]

Re: Impregnating your own daughter is NOT rape! (Genesis 19:32-36

These issues and questions are all addressed in the Original Post.

The point is, a person is not a true Christian if he supports that which contradicts the teachings of his Covenant with God, it was only a quick reminder.

[Christie]

Re: Impregnating your own daughter is NOT rape! (Genesis 19:32-36)

You know why I never read the Bible? 'Cause the Bible was written by HUMAN BEINGS who were selfish enough to assume that everything they do is also God's will. We have nothing left from GOD, nor from Jesus, who was a human form of God. We only have the words of men who played God and thought that everything they do is a correct and is approved by God.
Religion should teach you that you have a soul to take care of, because that soul is a gift from God. Impregnating your daughter proves you have none. Stop following the "Holy book" because it's not as holy as you may think. God is not about a book some drunk people wrote hundreds of years ago.

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Impregnating your own daughter is NOT rape! (Genesis 19:32-36)

God is not about a book some drunk people wrote hundreds of years ago.

I know this is going to hurt a bit, but I want you to try to switch your brain on for a second.

What you are saying is that God is real but that the Holy Bible is nonsense right?

That would mean God is so powerful and so mighty that He can create an entire universe but at the same time He cannot prevent nonsense about Him in a simple book, the Holy Bible? Does that make any sense? No it doesn't.

God exists, God created everything and God gave us clear guidelines with the most perfect book ever created: the Holy Bible. When you use your brain for a second you'll figure out this is way more logical.

[Christie]

Re: Impregnating your own daughter is NOT rape! (Genesis 19:32-36)

That would mean God is so powerful and so mighty that He can create an entire universe but at the same time He cannot prevent nonsense about Him

There are SO many religions talking nonsenses about God and He did nothing to prevent this as well. I know a lot of atheists, and God did nothing to change the fact that they say *** potty language *** about him.

I can write some scripts and create a new religion which will be one of the biggest religions of the world in a billion years and people will believe I was right, just because my scripts are so old that no one can actually know if I was right or not. And no one will prevent me from writing them. You don't have to believe in a book written by people to find your way to God, that's what I'm trying to say.

[Basilissa]

Re: Impregnating your own daughter is NOT rape! (Genesis 19:32-36)

You know why I never read the Bible? 'Cause the Bible was written by HUMAN BEINGS who were selfish enough to assume that everything they do is also God's will. We have nothing left from GOD, nor from Jesus, who was a human form of God.

So... you think that all the research that was done on the synoptic gospels is just junk?

We only have the words of men who played God and thought that everything they do is a correct and is approved by God.
Religion should teach you that you have a soul to take care of, because that soul is a gift from God. Impregnating your daughter proves you have none. Stop following the "Holy book" because it's not as holy as you may think. God is not about a book some drunk people wrote hundreds of years ago.

And how do you know what is God all about, if you have nothing to use as evidence? I mean, if you throw the Bible out of the window, what other source of knowledge do you have about God?

There are SO many religions talking nonsenses about God and He did nothing to prevent this as well. I know a lot of atheists, and God did nothing to change the fact that they say shit about him.

In other words: you think that God exists, but He doesn't care.

Following that "logic," if He doesn't care, then why do you care?

I can write some scripts and create a new religion which will be one of the biggest religions of the world in a billion years and people will believe I was right, just because my scripts are so old that no one can actually know if I was right or not. And no one will prevent me from writing them. You don't have to believe in a book written by people to find your way to God, that's what I'm trying to say.

Why do you want to find your way to Him, if you think that He is some kind of a dick who doesn't give a s***t (your words, not mine) about anything?

Let me tell you: repent, sweetie, before it's too late!

I will pray for your soul!

[Christie]

Re: Impregnating your own daughter is NOT rape! (Genesis 19:32-36)

And how do you know what is God all about, if you have nothing to use as evidence? I mean, if you throw the Bible out of the window, what other source of knowledge do you have about God?



In other words: you think that God exists, but He doesn't care.

Following that "logic," if He doesn't care, then why do you care?



Why do you want to find your way to Him, if you think that He is some kind of a dick who doesn't give a s***t (your words, not mine) about anything?

Don't you get it? You need NO material evidence to feel there is a God out there. God itself isn't a material thing. I didn't say He doesn't care, I only said He gave us free will so if some sort of drunk people want to write such thing as a "holy bible" then He won't do anything about it. He is waiting for us to find a right way while respecting our MORALS. And if your morals guide you to impregnate your daughter then I'm sorry, but you have a serious mental illness.

[Basilissa]

Re: Impregnating your own daughter is NOT rape! (Genesis 19:32-36)

Don't you get it? You need NO material evidence to feel there is a God out there. God itself isn't a material thing.

How do you know that, if you reject the only source of our knowledge about God?

I didn't say He doesn't care, I only said He gave us free will

How do you know that, if you reject the only source of our knowledge about God?

so if some sort of drunk people want to write such thing as a "holy bible" then He won't do anything about it. He is waiting for us to find a right way while respecting our MORALS.

How do you know that, if you reject the only source of our knowledge about God?

And if your morals guide you to impregnate your daughter then I'm sorry, but you have a serious mental illness.

No, we just follow the only source of God's will that exists on this earth:

[Christie]

Re: Impregnating your own daughter is NOT rape! (Genesis 19:32-36)

How do you know that, if you reject the only source of our knowledge about God?

The thing you name "source of our knowledge about God" was written by ordinary people who thought their will is also God's. The only material evidence that proves God's existence is the universe He created. I don't need any book written by sick people with too much imagination.

[Basilissa]

Re: Impregnating your own daughter is NOT rape! (Genesis 19:32-36)

The thing you name "source of our knowledge about God" was written by ordinary people who thought their will is also God's. The only material evidence that proves God's existence is the universe He created. I don't need any book written by sick people with too much imagination.

So, how do you know that the world was created? Scientists (people who, like you, reject the Holy Bible) claim to have evidence that the world was born in an explosion, and that it has been expanding and changing (on its own, without Divibe intervention) ever since. (Something about helium burning up into other elements, I don't really pay much attention to that crap. Every time something doesn't add up in their calculations, they just add or substract some undetectable cold dark matter). The same scientists will tell you that they have evidence for evolution of species which occurred over millions of years, again without any Divine intervention.

What I'm trying to say is: if you reject the only source of our knowledge about God (the Holy Bible); and you also reject the only other alternative (science, evolution), then where the heck do you get your ideas from? Has it ever crossed your mind, that maybe you are wrong, and people who have actual evidence (that is, the Holy Bible) might be right?

I will keep praying for you. You do believe in God, and that is a good start.

[Christie]

Re: Impregnating your own daughter is NOT rape! (Genesis 19:32-36)

I believe in evolution. I also believe in the theories of the Universe being created by an explosion.

I don't think all these happened by themselves, though. I believe there is a spiritual force strong enough to do all these, and this is named 'God'. I believe that nothing happened against His will. He created everything as an explosion. He created people by evolution, through time, so we will be related with all this world has to offer.