Clothes in Heaven.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

I suppose that I should know the answer to this, but I am somewhat lost. I'd be grateful for any help.

When you die, you go to heaven. Documentaries on "The Rapture" always depict a pile of clothes left behind, and yet depictions of Heaven by divinely inspired artists show only people wandering about in nightgowns/dresses (except the Mormons, and they seem to have branches of Macys c. 1950 in Heaven - we can disregard this.)

It seems that once the naked soul reaches Heaven's Gate, it is directed to the "nightgown/dress" store and kitted out.

I should imagine that, even in Paradise, things wear out, and Eternity is a long time - so is there somewhere that "simply knows when you need a new one?

Friedhoffer, in his book "Auf der Art der Kleidung im Himmel" (1867), after no fewer than 489 pages of closely-argued biblical logic, suggested nakedness in Heaven.

I have never accepted this as a possibility, although Jesus did imply that between men and women there will be absolutely no "intimate contact" - I think there are standards to be maintained, not to mention sights that should not be seen in a Land of Eternal Bliss.

I was wondering if anyone had been divinely inspired enough that they have had it "revealed unto them" that there is a way of pre-ordering a particular style of "eternal nightgown", or if fashions in Heaven have moved on from the Middle Ages/the 19th century, etc?

[Aaron Blair]

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You SHALL NOT judge others by skin alone! I am half black and I KNOW God never put us on this earth for us to judge each other!

[Mary Etheldreda]

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You SHALL NOT judge others by skin alone! I am half black and I KNOW God never put us on this earth for us to judge each other!

Hello dear, and welcome to our friendly forums! You seem a tad bit confused. You see, Pastor Bathfire didn't actually say anything about judging others by skin alone. Instead, he's inquiring about Heavenly fashion while avoiding the appearance of looking like characters in a cheesy Mormon painting.

Furthermore, if you know anything about God, you know it from reading the Holy Bible. The Holy Bible is very clear that True Christians™ are commanded to judge others, and furthermore, we do so righteously (John 7:24, etc).

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

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You SHALL NOT judge others by skin alone! I am half black

That's interesting. Which half is black? The top or the bottom? Or is it side and side?


You need to read Gen:30:30 onward for your solution. In the Chapter, Jacob breeds spotted cattle by putting spotted sticks in the sight of pregnant cattle.

With your being black and white - your mother was probably staring at a police car, and that caused it.

[James Hutchins]

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You SHALL NOT judge others by skin alone! I am half black and I KNOW God never put us on this earth for us to judge each other!

I remember reading about when the Americans came to North America to resolve the Indian problem. There were many half breeds just like you. After a time, they were rounded up, given cheap alcohol and all live together on some Godless reservation. So you too, can know you have a place on Earth to wait for God to determine what to do with your damaged soul.

Brother Bathfire, I have always understood that we 'cant take it with us' and that God provides. White robes for the men and appropriate sheers for the ladies. Just like every meal is even better than a open feast at Golden Corral. Everyone drives a S550 AMG. Though I expect it would be even better than that.

[Johny Joe Hold]

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This is a great issue to discuss. Thank you pastor for bringing it up.

I'm of the mind that in heaven there may well be different rules for different souls. While the run-of-the-mill men and women will be dressed modestly and will behave accordingly, leaders will have different rules. I expect leaders will be men and those men will have around them ladies who dress to please those men. God will decree that behavior of the leaders who have earned their rank will be determined by themselves.

While there may be those who dispute the Bible tells us this, I am merely reflecting what I have seen in God's election of President Trump and the leaders he surrounds himself with. It seems to me God is giving us a preview of the afterlife.

[WilliamJenningsBryan]

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You SHALL NOT judge others by skin alone! I am half black and I KNOW God never put us on this earth for us to judge each other!

How very special; thank you for sharing that with us. I'd be curious - do you get the urge to put mayonnaise on your ham hocks and collard greens? Does your "white" side have privilege, or does the "black" side matter? Do you sometimes feel like picking cotton?

Oh, and where in your chance genetic makeup does it give you the "privilege" to derail our Godly thread in things that matter to Jesus?

[WilliamJenningsBryan]

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I'm not sure I need to apologize to my Brothers and Sisters here, but the Holy Spirit overcame me and I sensed a need to rebuke the unsaved trash here with righteous indignation. I feel much calmer now, and I think I can proceed to discuss the issue at hand.

It seems that first God created us naked:

And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.

- Genesis 2:25

As an aside, that probably explains why women are always complaining that they have "nothing to wear" - it's that old urge to return to the Garden of Eden.

On the other hand, after the "fall" and the sin of Eve, there was an urge to get some clothes on:

And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.

- Genesis 3:7

Now you would think that after Jesus came and temporarily died for our sins that it would suggest that we can go naked again (unless we happen to live in northern climates) - and indeed in Heaven we would be naked without any problem.

On the other hand, other sections of the Bible (KJV1611) suggest that we will be wearing white robes and carrying palms around:

After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.

- Revelation 7:9-10

[Aaron Blair]

Re: Clothes in Heaven.

I'm not sure I need to apologize to my Brothers and Sisters here, but the Holy Spirit overcame me and I sensed a need to rebuke the unsaved trash here with righteous indignation. I feel much calmer now, and I think I can proceed to discuss the issue at hand.

It seems that first God created us naked:



As an aside, that probably explains why women are always complaining that they have "nothing to wear" - it's that old urge to return to the Garden of Eden.

On the other hand, after the "fall" and the sin of Eve, there was an urge to get some clothes on:



Now you would think that after Jesus came and temporarily died for our sins that it would suggest that we can go naked again (unless we happen to live in northern climates) - and indeed in Heaven we would be naked without any problem.

On the other hand, other sections of the Bible (KJV1611) suggest that we will be wearing white robes and carrying palms around:

How can you call yourselves Christian when you hold so much distain towards people who have not tresspased you? I don't care what this site thinks, I am Gods follower and acolyte and when I see wrong actions I help them be better people instead of push them away. I would not be suprised if some if you are KKK members! I will be vocal of my praise and the way I see it! The book was not written by God and as humans we kniw that their are mistakes in their! I see all as morally ambigous until proven otherwise and morallity itself is relative. GOD MY SAVIOR IN HEAVEN WATCHING ME TYPE THIS MESSAGE, NOTE THAT I PRAY FOR THESE PEOPLE! YOUR SON DIDN'T DIE SO BIGGOTRY COULD ARISE! I lean nowhere on the political spectrum and feel it has no place on a religious site, so what? I am of mixed blood, I'm 100% human! I practice Christianity differently than you and tolerence needs to be learned. I pray that the Dolorosa hears not your sharp tounges and that Jesus lay not another pearly tear on his dark copper skin from your words. I have my freedom of speech and to deny me that based on my opinion... well I doubt your American! My best friend Mohammed and my other friend Rico agree with me! Religion is the same story told many different ways but in the end God hears our prayers. One day after the wies if my flesh rot away, I will turn my chains into a hammer by the celestial shores and I will help fix those with broken halos such as yourself.

[MitzaLizalor]

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How can you call yourselves Christian when you hold so much distain towards people who have not tresspased you? I don't care what this site thinks, I am Gods follower and acolyte and when I see wrong actions I help them be better people instead of push them away. I would not be suprised if some if you are KKK members! I will be vocal of my praise and the way I see it! The book was not written by God and as humans we kniw that their are mistakes in their! I see all as morally ambigous until proven otherwise and morallity itself is relative. GOD MY SAVIOR IN HEAVEN WATCHING ME TYPE THIS MESSAGE, NOTE THAT I PRAY FOR THESE PEOPLE! YOUR SON DIDN'T DIE SO BIGGOTRY COULD ARISE! I lean nowhere on the political spectrum and feel it has no place on a religious site, so what? I am of mixed blood, I'm 100% human! I practice Christianity differently than you and tolerence needs to be learned. I pray that the Dolorosa hears not your sharp tounges and that Jesus lay not another pearly tear on his dark copper skin from your words. I have my freedom of speech and to deny me that based on my opinion... well I doubt your American! My best friend Mohammed and my other friend Rico agree with me! Religion is the same story told many different ways but in the end God hears our prayers. One day after the wies if my flesh rot away, I will turn my chains into a hammer by the celestial shores and I will help fix those with broken halos such as yourself.

What is Dolorosa ?

[DolliMoans]

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Oh, I hope we get to wear something. Does anyone know the temperature of Heaven? Will Jesus give us heat-padded clouds?

[MitzaLizalor]

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It could be quite warm. The sea will be all gone and Jesus will be our direct source of light. If the sea evaporated He'd be hot.

REVELATION 21 .KJV . look up
1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.

[Basilissa]

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How can you call yourselves Christian when you hold so much distain towards people who have not tresspased you?

You see, sweetie, being a Christian means to follow the Holy Bible, and the Bible tells us to hate enemies of God:

Psalm 139:20-21
21 Do not I hate them, O Lord, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee?
22 I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies.

I don't care what this site thinks,

Nobody should care what a "site" thinks (whatever that's supposed to mean, anyway). As Christians, we should only care about what God thinks - and the Holy Bible is our only guide for that.

I am Gods follower and acolyte and when I see wrong actions I help them be better people instead of push them away.

Helping people to be better Christians, that's the sole reason why our Pastors decided to set up this website!

I would not be suprised if some if you are KKK members!

I am guessing from the overall tone of your post that this is intended as an insult. I am not entirely sure why - as our Godly president has said, there are many fine people in the KKK:

I will be vocal of my praise and the way I see it! The book was not written by God and as humans we kniw that their are mistakes in their!

You are on a slippery slope there, sweetie. If, hypothetically, I were to agree with the above statement, how could we decide which parts of the Bible were true and which were not? Is the Bible 50% false and 50% true, or 90% false and 90% true? Are the 10 Commandments true or false? Is the story of Crucifixion and Resurrection true or false? Is the very existence of God true or false?

Who has the right to choose which bits of the Bible are true and which are false?

Being a Christian means treating the Bible as the Holy Book - yes, written by men, but inspired by God. After all, this is what the Bible itself tells us:

Proverbs 30:5-6
5 Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.

Matthew 5:17-18
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

I see all as morally ambigous until proven otherwise and morallity itself is relative.

If morality is relative then you should not judge the KKK or the nazis too harshly. After all, from their relative morality they are perfect people.

GOD MY SAVIOR IN HEAVEN WATCHING ME TYPE THIS MESSAGE, NOTE THAT I PRAY FOR THESE PEOPLE!

God does not listen to sinners like you, who think that Bible is a lie:

John 9:31 Now we know that God heareth not sinners: but if any man be a worshipper of God, and doeth his will, him he heareth.

I practice Christianity differently than you and tolerence needs to be learned.

That sort of thinking has led to all of the schisms and the 1001 shades of Christianity we have today.

It would be so much simpler if people calling themselves Christian followed the Bible as is, instead of making up stuff they want to believe.

I pray that the Dolorosa hears not your sharp tounges and that Jesus lay not another pearly tear on his dark copper skin from your words. I have my freedom of speech and to deny me that based on my opinion... well I doubt your American! My best friend Mohammed and my other friend Rico agree with me! Religion is the same story told many different ways but in the end God hears our prayers. One day after the wies if my flesh rot away, I will turn my chains into a hammer by the celestial shores and I will help fix those with broken halos such as yourself.

That was all very poetic but just like most poetry, did not make any sense whatsoever.

[MitzaLizalor]

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the Dolorosa

Is that an old stone lane in Jerusalem do you think? Is it supposed to have ears or something? I think Aaron Blair could be some sort of catholic.

[Aaron Blair]

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What is Dolorosa ?

The Dolorosa is Latin for "The Grieving." You call her Mary more than likely