The omnipotent God.

[LyingDingDong]

I'm not here to be hated, because I don't hate anyone of you. I just need help with a question.

I grew up with zero religious upbringing and because of this, I have logical ways of thinking about the word through scientific approaches. And I believe that my way of thinking is more correct than yours, just like you believe in your way of thinking that Jesus is your savior. But I'm digressing.

My question:
Why is it that if God is omnipotent, he allowed me and many others to grow up in a society were there is such little evidence in believing God. Of course you can say that I need to read the bible and there's my proof because that was written by the hand of God. But from my personal view, I see no logic in believing that a book was written by God just because it says that the book was written by God. Someone else could have written that the God wrote the book.

I hope you understand my view point. I have a hard to clarifying my points across. Again I mean no harm, I just want an answer.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: The omnipotent God.

My question:
Why is it that if God is omnipotent, he allowed me and many others to grow up in a society were there is such little evidence in believing God. Of course you can say that I need to read the bible and there's my proof because that was written by the hand of God. But from my personal view, I see no logic in believing that a book was written by God just because it says that the book was written by God. Someone else could have written that the God wrote the book.

I hope you understand my view point. I have a hard to clarifying my points across. Again I mean no harm, I just want an answer.

Indeed, you are wandering lost in the world. It is good that you came here.

You have perhaps heard of Ian Fleming, who wrote the James Bond books? Now, answer me this, how do we know that Ian Fleming, who is now dead, either existed or wrote anything?

Is there any logic in believing that Ian Fleming wrote James Bond books? After all, there are people who said they knew him and said that he wrote the books.

Likewise, there are people in the Bible who spoke with God and who wrote down what He said. There are those who knew those who knew Christ and wrote down what He said and did.

So what sort of proof do you want? What is it that would make you say, “Yes, God exists.”

Amen

Bathfire E

[LyingDingDong]

Re: The omnipotent God.

Only primary sources are accountable. There is no way of proving the bible as being a primary source, but there are primary sources that can prove that Ian Fleming existed and wrote the James Bond books.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: The omnipotent God.

Only primary sources are accountable. There is no way of proving the bible as being a primary source, but there are primary sources that can prove that Ian Fleming existed and wrote the James Bond books.

Wrong again, pal. God is the ultimate "primary source." You can't get any more "primary" than that!

Brother Jack Chick illustrates my point HERE.

[LyingDingDong]

Re: The omnipotent God.

Wrong again, pal. God is the ultimate "primary source." You can't get any more "primary" than that!

Brother Jack Chick illustrates my point HERE.

You cannot say God is a primary source just because you say it or even the bible says it. And I know that you can't prove to me that he is a primary source. But what I am asking is why does He give so little evidence to His existence.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: The omnipotent God.

You cannot say God is a primary source just because you say it or even the bible says it. And I know that you can't prove to me that he is a primary source. But what I am asking is why does He give so little evidence to His existence.

Because Jesus loves you so much He wants you to love Him back without any compulsion. That's why He hides Himself from you and punishes you with eternal damnation if you don't the the right thing.

[LyingDingDong]

Re: The omnipotent God.

Because Jesus loves you so much He wants you to love Him back without any compulsion. That's why He hides Himself from you and punishes you with eternal damnation if you don't the the right thing.

What is the right thing? In the eyes of God the right thing is to accept Jesus as my savior and I in turn am saved from eternal damnation. I don't cheat, lie, or steal and yet, upon my deathbed, without anygood persuasion, I will not accept Jesus as my savior, because I don't believe he is my savior. And therefore will suffer eternally.

[Nobar King]

Re: The omnipotent God.

You cannot say God is a primary source just because you say it or even the bible says it. And I know that you can't prove to me that he is a primary source. But what I am asking is why does He give so little evidence to His existence.

Do they not have rainbows in chinaland, LingLing? Or butterflies? Who do you think made those?

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: The omnipotent God.

What is the right thing? In the eyes of God the right thing is to accept Jesus as my savior and I in turn am saved from eternal damnation. I don't cheat, lie, or steal and yet, upon my deathbed, without anygood persuasion, I will not accept Jesus as my savior, because I don't believe he is my savior. And therefore will suffer eternally.

You have to remember that The Bible teaches us that humans are so utterly evil that we deserve damnation for the mere act of existing. Even those virtues you list like any other human being you do out of pure selfishness. Only Jesus is the source of true virtue so you have to turn to Him to be made worthy of life eternal friend.

[Keyboard_Warrior123]

Re: The omnipotent God.

If you look at the world, surely it is to vast to be made by accident by a big band some way back in time?
surely there has to be something else?
The proof is all around you, you just have to open your eyes to it.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: The omnipotent God.

If you look at the world, surely it is to vast to be made by accident by a big band some way back in time?
surely there has to be something else?
The proof is all around you, you just have to open your eyes to it.

Caution though friend; just saying "wow, look at the world, an't it cool" still allows the pagans wiggle room to claim their false gods did it. We must look for that special handprint of the God of the Bible. Things that can only happen with His’ particular agenda. There are many out there friend if you look.

My personal favorite is parasitic wasps; only a God would create animal that would subject another animal to a slow and agonizing death just to reproduce. The kind of malevolent hatred for your’ own creation could only possibly come from The Lord as He described in The Bible. I challenge any pagan, Hindu or Buddhist to explain a parasitic wasp in their mythology.

[LyingDingDong]

Re: The omnipotent God.

My personal favorite is parasitic wasps; only a God would create animal that would subject another animal to a slow and agonizing death just to reproduce. The kind of malevolent hatred for your’ own creation could only possibly come from The Lord as He described in The Bible. I challenge any pagan, Hindu or Buddhist to explain a parasitic wasp in their mythology.

If an individual acquires characteristics that benefit and allows it to reproduce more efficiently than other individuals in a population, will increase the number of the individual with the desired characteristic. This can also explain your parasitic wasps.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: The omnipotent God.

If an individual acquires characteristics that benefit and allows it to reproduce more efficiently than other individuals in a population, will increase the number of the individual with the desired characteristic. This can also explain your parasitic wasps.

True, under the theory of evolution. Accepting for a moment that the theory of evolution is truer it goes without saying the spiders certainly don’t benefit from being slowly devoured alive. Clearly they would develop defenses against this like spikes and thick armor. They don’t’ so they must be something deliberately forcing these spiders to remain defenseless. That can only be God.

[LyingDingDong]

Re: The omnipotent God.

Clearly they would develop defenses against this like spikes and thick armor. They don’t’ so they must be something deliberately forcing these spiders to remain defenseless. That can only be God.

Natrual selection does not pick and select traits for a population, it only chooses the best individuals to survive.

Also, most likely spiders will acquire characteristics that defend itself from the parasitic wasp, but only thousands of generations can tell us that.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: The omnipotent God.

Natrual selection does not pick and select traits for a population, it only chooses the best individuals to survive.

Also, most likely spiders will acquire characteristics that defend itself from the parasitic wasp, but only thousands of generations can tell us that.

Now friend according to the theory of evolution those thousand generations have already happened. According to the evolution theory spiders were among the earliest land animals and wasps date from the theoretical time of the dinosaurs. Yet no change in all those theoretical millions of year. Face the facts friend, the hand of God is very clear here with the hideous death of all those millions upon millions of spiders.