[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: I hit my wife for the first time

I have not been on this site for a while, but it is because I have hit sort of a rough patch. My family has not been at all supportive of my decision to become a true, devout Christian man. My family is full of Buddhists...

I'm sorry to hear that. What a terrible burden you must have had as a child, to be denied the knowledge of the Temporary Sacrifice of the Redeemer of Mankind, to be denied the intimate relationship granted to one who has recognized his offense against the LORD and has dropped to his knees to beg forgiveness.

My mother and I had a conversation about it, and I assured her that Hellfire awaited her if she did not change her way of life. My father sided with her, and claimed that I was being ignorant and that Hell didn't exist. I was appalled that he would even say such a thing, and then agree with a woman at that. My mother then opened her mouth to speak ill of the Lord and Christianity, but before she could finish her sentence, I had already struck her and she had a look of astonishment on her face. I told her that it was for her own good, and that Jesus wanted it this way: for her to be obedient to the men of the house and live the way Christ intended , and since my father could not be the man, I had to step in. I then smacked my father for not stepping up and putting my mother in her place, and not following Christ as we as white men should. We are not Chinks, so why were we so blinded by Buddhism in the first place?

Satan wouldn't be called the "father of lies" if his lies were so obvious everyone could see them and know to avoid them (John 8:44). Instead, he works in insidious, subtle ways to dupe those who would follow their own egos rather than the LORD.

Since this incident, my family wants nothing to do with me. I am saddened by the fact that I can no longer see my loved ones, but I somehow know in my heart that everything that I did was necessary.

If your intent was truly and genuinely inspired by glorifying Jesus, and not born of the desire to feel personally empowered or even to avoid Hell, then you have nothing to worry about. Those who do not hate their fathers and mothers cannot be Jesus' disciples anyway. He said so Himself (Luke 14:26). Besides, if you lose your home and family on His account, you will gain more as a part of your Heavenly reward (Matthew 19:29).

To make sure your behavior is indeed in conformity with the Will of God, you must make sure Scripture supports your actions. This will show that your actions were Righteous in nature and not Sinful in nature. Because man cannot trust himself to know if his intent is truly to glorify God, he must rely on the objective and immutable Holy Word of God (Jeremiah 17:9; 1 Corinthians 2:14).

I tried to post a thread about this, but was unable to. I just wanted to know if I was in right, and what I should do next. I don't want my family to burn in Hell, and I feel that I can do more than what I did, but how? I felt that no one would give me better advice than the True Christians here on this forum. Thank you in advance for your help.

If you'd like, you can copy/paste your post and start a new thread, but I wouldn't worry about people you love burning in Hell. Those who have been Born Again will not be burdened with such unpleasant thoughts about loved ones suffering for all eternity (Revelation 21:4), and those who have not been Born Again will have all eternity to come to terms with having led their loved ones similarly astray.

[librallgbtchristian]

Re: I hit my wife for the first time

So my wife never came home from the store. She left me and took the kids. I spent hours calling her family and friends and they either wouldn't answer or they would say they didn't know where she was and hang up on me. She finally texted me and said "The kids and I are fine" and that was it. I have no idea where she is.

I know this must be part of God's plan but I feel hurt and betrayed. My wife is the sweetest woman in the world and she didn't deserve to be treated that way. I wish I could go back and do it over again, perhaps I could have been more subtle. I'll keep praying for guidance but I just want her to come back. This is not the way I envisioned this turning out, but God is in control and I'll let Him lead the way.

Call her, apologize, beg her not to call the cops.

[librallgbtchristian]

Re: I hit my wife for the first time

Thanks for the responses. I decided to print out some Bible passages that show I have a God given right to discipline my wife when she gets out of line and I went and taped them to the front door of her friends houses and her mom and dad just to let them know I'm not a bad person. I feel upon reading these verses they will understand why I did what I did and send her home where she belongs.

Unfortunately while I was gone she came back home and packed up her clothes (and shoes) and the kids clothes too. I'm very confused but I know wherever she ends up going she will see the notes I posted and perhaps reconsider. I continue to pray for guidance, I know the Lord will show the path I'm to take before too long.

Call her, apologize, beg her not to call the cops. That is, only if you plan on not hitting her again. She's human, same as you. She doesn't deserve to be beaten

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: I hit my wife for the first time

Call her, apologize, beg her not to call the cops.

Why would the cops need to be involved? It is a family matter and this upstanding young man is simply exercising his God given right to say how his family relates to Jesus.

YIC

[Life-Is-Short]

Re: I hit my wife for the first time

I like you

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: I hit my wife for the first time

I like you

Thank you, friend!

Welcome to our humble forums!

[Life-Is-Short]

Re: I hit my wife for the first time

Okay, for one, in America, this is abuse, and against federal law. "In the federal criminal system, an assault is an attempt to hit another person or an act that causes someone to reasonably expect impending harm. Throwing a punch is a typical example. So is intentionally pointing a gun at someone.

An assault requires neither harm nor physical contact—the crime is complete whether the assailant succeeds in hitting the other person or actually fires the gun. However, assaults also include instances when the defendant actually connects with the victim. If someone tries to—and actually does—strike, beat, or wound another, an assault has occurred. (18 U.S.C. § 113(a)(4).)" ... "A simple assault results in up to six months’ imprisonment. If the victim is under age 16, the maximum imprisonment increases to one year. (18 U.S.C. § 113(a)(5).)

If an assault causes “serious” injury, the potential prison sentence is as high as 10 years. (18 U.S.C. § 113(a)(6).) The injury is “serious” if it involves a substantial risk of death extreme physical pain continued and obvious disfigurement, or long-term loss or impairment of any body part. (18 U.S.C. §§ 113(b)(2), 1365.) An assault that “substantially” injures a child age 15 or younger triggers a maximum five-year prison sentence. (18 U.S.C. § 113(a)(7).) A “substantial” injury includes temporary, but substantial disfigurement, or loss or impairment of any part of the body. (18 U.S.C. § 113(b)(1).)
Assault with intent to commit murder results in up to 20 years’ imprisonment, while assault with intent to commit a felony leads to 10 years or less. Assault with a dangerous weapon also carries a 10-year maximum." http://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com...ult-crimes.htm

Just to make that clear.Secondly, I saw in this tread earlier, although I can't find it now, people debating whether God was loving, and someone asked for scripture to back it up.
1 Corintians 13: "Love
1Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. 2And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing. 3And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing. 4Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, 5Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; 6Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; 7Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things. 8Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. 9For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. 10But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. 11When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 12For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. 13And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity."
In other translations, 'charity' is translated as 'love.' (By the way, if you read it in other translations, it is a very beautiful verse)

Galations 5: 22-23 "22But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law"

John 3:16 "16For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved."

Okay, one thing that I think is very important. I believe in the Bible, particularly the overlying message of love. But I think that it is very important to take into account who was writing it. It was written at a time were social problems leaked into everything. Also, the original manuscripts were burnt; letters were burnt as well. So people had to attempt to re-create it from memory. And while they are doing this, social and political viewpoints at the time undeniably leaked in. So personally, I think it is more important to take the main message from the Bible away, even if every verse doesn't ring true. That is, "Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself" (Matthew 19:19).

[Life-Is-Short]

Re: I hit my wife for the first time

Oh, sorry, I was trying to say that to a specific person. Some one who said... eh, something you would disagree with. I don't approve of anyone who would hurt another person a relationship that is anything other that safe, sane, and consensual.

[Basilissa]

Re: I hit my wife for the first time

Okay, one thing that I think is very important. I believe in the Bible, particularly the overlying message of love.

Oh, me too. Don't you just feel that love in the following verses:

Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?

Exodus 4:11 And the LORD said unto him, Who hath made man's mouth? or who maketh the dumb, or deaf, or the seeing, or the blind? have not I the LORD?

Lamentations 3:38 Out of the mouth of the most High proceedeth not evil and good?

Matthew 10:34-36
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

But I think that it is very important to take into account who was writing it.

That's an easy one. The Bible was written by men inspired by God (2 Timothy 3:16)

It was written at a time were social problems leaked into everything.

Uh, but isn't that statement true of every single period in human history?

Also, the original manuscripts were burnt; letters were burnt as well. So people had to attempt to re-create it from memory.

? And you evidence is....?

And while they are doing this, social and political viewpoints at the time undeniably leaked in. So personally, I think it is more important to take the main message from the Bible away, even if every verse doesn't ring true. That is, "Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself" (Matthew 19:19).

Of course we do love our neighbors. (Who, accidentally, happen to be True Christians™). Like Paul said: love each another, and tolerate the non-Christians (Romans 12:10-18).

[Life-Is-Short]

Re: I hit my wife for the first time

Oh, me too. Don't you just feel that love in the following verses:

Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?

Exodus 4:11 And the LORD said unto him, Who hath made man's mouth? or who maketh the dumb, or deaf, or the seeing, or the blind? have not I the LORD?

Lamentations 3:38 Out of the mouth of the most High proceedeth not evil and good?

Matthew 10:34-36
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.



That's an easy one. The Bible was written by men inspired by God (2 Timothy 3:16)

Uh, but isn't that statement true of every single period in human history?

? And you evidence is....?

Of course we do love our neighbors. (Who, accidentally, happen to be True Christians™). Like Paul said: love each another, and tolerate the non-Christians (Romans 12:10-18).

Look, I'm not trying to start anything, I am sharing my view. Whether it's your view or not doesn't matter to me. I honestly don't need to listen to snide remarks ("Oh, me too. Don't you just feel that love in the following verses") I was sharing my opinion. It's called the freedom of speech. U.S. Constitution.

MY God is a loving, merciful God. I don't care if you agree with me, because He isn't your God, He is mine. He lives in my heart, and I honestly would love if you could see the God I do, because I think he is indescribable. He has so much power, and yet he promises not to use it. (Promise not to flood earth again) He sent his SON, his only child, whom he must have loved dearly, to be a human, and to see us--the good, and the bad, and the ugly, and the beautiful. And then He let his Son make that choice. Jesus could have gotten off that cross, if he wanted to. He died for ME, so that I am freed of my sins, the ones I realize, and the ones I don't. THAT is my merciful God. And you can disagree, and you can throw Bible verses at me, and it will NEVER change my view. Because my God? The little I can dream to know about Him is magnificent. He is indescribable. <3 <3 <3



P.S. Since I'v ealready made everyone mad..... LGBTQIA rights for the win!!!

[Jim Farmer]

Re: I hit my wife for the first time

So personally, I think it is more important to take the main message from the Bible away, even if every verse doesn't ring true. That is, "Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself" (Matthew 19:19).

God tells us that all parts are true. You can't ignore verses just because you don't like them!
2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

[Life-Is-Short]

Re: I hit my wife for the first time

God tells us that all parts are true. You can't ignore verses just because you don't like them!
2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

Sorry, how are you saying that is corrupted? Because I didn't put all of the chapter in? Because I didn't put all of Matthew in? Or because I stated that not every verse MUST be 100% in line with my beliefs? Despite the fact that my beliefs MIGHT differ from yours?

Hmm.... How ODD.

[Alvin Moss]

Re: I hit my wife for the first time

A number of unsaved wretches have come before this forum of late claiming rights granted them under the US Constitution. I seems they are skilled at verse picking from the Constitution in the same way they pick and choose from God's word.

This one has missed the point that this is a private forum, like a private house and that he is a guest who is expected to follow the rules. One of these rules is that he is to introduce himself before launching into his repertoire of insulting advice.

See here, Bunny, we are going to need a proper introduction before you explain things to us. What is your congregation? Who is your Pastor? Are you up to date on your tithes?

[Jim Farmer]

Re: I hit my wife for the first time

MY God is a loving, merciful God. I don't care if you agree with me, because He isn't your God, He is mine. He lives in my heart, and I honestly would love if you could see the God I do, because I think he is indescribable. He has so much power, and yet he promises not to use it.

So you are saying that your God exists only in your imagination?That's not a real god The real God exists everywhere - He is ominpresent and omniscient. He is to be feared and obeyed.

And you can disagree, and you can throw Bible verses at me, and it will NEVER change my view. Because my God? The little I can dream to know about Him is magnificent. He is indescribable. <3 <3 <3

Yes you dream about him - because that's the only place your god exists - in your dreams. Indescribable? I bet he is!
Your god has as much chance of existing as does the Easter Bunny!

[Jim Farmer]

Re: I hit my wife for the first time

Sorry, how are you saying that is corrupted? Because I didn't put all of the chapter in? Because I didn't put all of Matthew in? Or because I stated that not every verse MUST be 100% in line with my beliefs? Despite the fact that my beliefs MIGHT differ from yours?

Hmm.... How ODD.

What on earth are you on about now, my little dreamer/hallucinator?