[James Hutchins]

Re: I'm Curious...

I am a tad bothered by your screen name. After reading what you've posted, I not sure what to make of all of this. I do think you need to sit back, and think about your commitment to God. He knows if you are serious or just playing a game.

[Gabriel Reproba]

Re: I'm Curious...

Well I think I have a right to be at least a little angry Noah. I dislike having what I say changed. Freedom of Speech is usually supported by the Right, correct?

Not when it offends God or God's favorite country.

And I understand what the forum says it believes all too well Gabriel...

Then what questions can I help you with? Do you believe that the Bible is the literal word of God?

[Backwards Child]

Re: I'm Curious...

Look, all I want to know is this. PLEASE just tell me this. WHY do you believe that the Bible is the word of God? WHY do you believe that a book filled with such horrible things can be something that is good to believe in? HOW do you know that we are "God's Favorite Country"? HOW do you know what God's political opinions are, if he even cares about them? HOW do you know that YOUR God is the one true God?

I'm not even trying to be offensive at this point, I just don't understand!

[Gabriel Reproba]

Re: I'm Curious...

Look, all I want to know is this. PLEASE just tell me this. WHY do you believe that the Bible is the word of God? WHY do you believe that a book filled with such horrible things can be something that is good to believe in? HOW do you know that we are "God's Favorite Country"? HOW do you know what God's political opinions are, if he even cares about them? HOW do you know that YOUR God is the one true God?

OK, so we have established for sure that you are an unsaved sinner that is going to Hell. We can help you. It is not too late to be saved and I want to help you. I love all mankind and I simply hate to think of anyone dying before they get saved. How can I help you accept Jesus Christ into your heart?

[Backwards Child]

Re: I'm Curious...

While I appreciate that you didn't immediately tell me to go away, and asked if you could help me, you still didn't answer any of my questions. Would you please, if only to help me understand?

But I'll tell you what. Here are a few things that will convince me that YOUR specific God is real.

1. If God came down to me in a beam of light, and told me to convert to your specific religion, or I would surely be cast into hell.
2. If your religion had some sort of extremely specific prophecy that could not have been predicted using science at that time, and came true in an extremely clear way.
3. If an undeniable supernatural miracle occured.
4. If you came up with a reasonable logical argument for your God.

And if you could provide any evidence for your God existing, that would certaintly be a step towards converting me.

[Once was lost]

Re: I'm Curious...

DogBackwards

I'm not even trying to be offensive at this point

Somehow you come off to me as offensive even from your first posting. I am probably the most Liberal member here on God's greatest internet Forum and spend quite a bit of time praying for some Trash that show up here at times.

When i read comments like this one you posted "WHY do you believe that the Bible is the word of God? WHY do you believe that a book filled with such horrible things can be something that is good to believe in?" the Bile just backs up in my stomach andi wonder why the Elders here even let you continue to post?Tonight my Prayers will be for you and hopefully tomorrow you might return with a bit of common sense.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: I'm Curious...

Look, all I want to know is this. PLEASE just tell me this. WHY do you believe that the Bible is the word of God?

He inspired its authors

WHY do you believe that a book filled with such horrible things can be something that is good to believe in?

God's ways are not the ways of man, but man's ways should be God's.

HOW do you know that we are "God's Favorite Country"?

Can you think of somewhere else? If you want a clue, think of the founding fathers...

HOW do you know what God's political opinions are,

The Bible is filled with His philosophy

if he even cares about them?

There are 2 examples of democracy in the Bible. In the first 20,000 people are consumed in fire, in the next an Apostle is chosen - the apostle dies in martyrdom. God wants a theocracy.

HOW do you know that YOUR God is the one true God?

You really are dim, aren't you? Hello! Anyone there? 1.Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Deuteronomy 5:1-22

I'm not even trying to be offensive at this point, I just don't understand!

You can be offensive without trying...

[Nobar King]

Re: I'm Curious...

No one here is trying to convert you. You have to come to know Jesus on your own.

[Brother Temperance]

Re: I'm Curious...

While I appreciate that you didn't immediately tell me to go away, and asked if you could help me, you still didn't answer any of my questions. Would you please, if only to help me understand?

But I'll tell you what. Here are a few things that will convince me that YOUR specific God is real.
And if you could provide any evidence for your God existing, that would certaintly be a step towards converting me.

It's not that simple. God deliberately makes it look as though He doesn't exist, so those with weak faith will be damned:

John 12:39 Therefore they could not believe, because that Esaias said again,
40 He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.

2 Thessalonians 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Do you see now how glorious He is? Praise Him!

[Backwards Child]

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He inspired its authors

And how do you know that?

God's ways are not the ways of man, but man's ways should be God's.

Ill admit it, rape, murder, genocide, mass killings, intolerance, and being illogical and unfair seem pretty immoral to me, and I think it says something that I am more moral than your God.

Can you think of somewhere else? If you want a clue, think of the founding fathers...

I encourage you to as well. http://freethought.mbdojo.com/foundingfathers.html
See that picture? It explicitly states that we are not founded on religion. Several of the founding fathers could have been atheist or agnostic as well.

http://www.heavingdeadcats.com/2008/08/02/founding-fathers-atheists-freethinkers/

The Bible is filled with His philosophy

I know. I've read it. I've heard it saying anything about republicans however. Oddly enough, I don't think GOD said anything about politics either.

There are 2 examples of democracy in the Bible. In the first 20,000 people are consumed in fire, in the next an Apostle is chosen - the apostle dies in martyrdom. God wants a theocracy.

And the fact that your God wants to kill 20000 people in a fire for having a fair political system is another reason why I dislike him.

You really are dim, aren't you? Hello! Anyone there? 1.Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Deuteronomy 5:1-22

Interesting. By the way, why do you think the Bible is the Word of God, or even any kind of evidence? Seems to me that with your knowledge of it, you would've realized that it has been mistranslated and edited to know end. And the fact that Moses went onto a mountain... ALL ALONE... with NOBODY around to see it, for months, and then came down with tablets that he couldve made himself, is NOT proof that that is what God said.

You can be offensive without trying...

True. But I was just asking questions, not flaming you.

And to Nobar, I know they aren't but he asked what would make me believe, so I told him what would convert me.

[Backwards Child]

Re: I'm Curious...

It's not that simple. God deliberately makes it look as though He doesn't exist, so those with weak faith will be damned:

John 12:39 Therefore they could not believe, because that Esaias said again,
40 He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.

2 Thessalonians 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Do you see now how glorious He is? Praise Him!

I do not... I find it rather hard to believe in, or find anything glorious about a God who expects me to blindly believe everything that a book says for no particular reason...

[Wide-Open]

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That's why it's called Faith friend.

You seem to expect proof. We have faith.

Can you really not hear the soothing voice of Baby Jesus, our Lord? He's calling your name. Listen. Shhhhhh.

[Backwards Child]

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That's why it's called Faith friend.

You seem to expect proof. We have faith.

Can you really not hear the soothing voice of Baby Jesus, our Lord? He's calling your name. Listen. Shhhhhh.

I can accept that. I honestly could care less if you have faith, I personally think it's ridiculous to believe something for not good reason, but that only my opinion. However, what I do object to is the forcing of your faith onto others, which is what happens all too often.
And I listened, I was a Christian for a significant portion of my life, but I eventually grew out of it once I realized there is no reason to believe it.

[Wide-Open]

Re: I'm Curious...

I can accept that. I honestly could care less if you have faith, I personally think it's ridiculous to believe something for not good reason, but that only my opinion. However, what I do object to is the forcing of your faith onto others, which is what happens all too often.
And I listened, I was a Christian for a significant portion of my life, but I eventually grew out of it once I realized there is no reason to believe it.

Friend, did we come to your house, or did you Google "Landover Baptist Church" and started being rude to us?

Jesus sees everything. Never forget.

[Brother Temperance]

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However, what I do object to is the forcing of your faith onto others, which is what happens all too often.

Wrong again. It doesn't happen often enough. If we forced Christianity onto more people, less people would go to Hell. Why do you want people to go to Hell?

And I listened, I was a Christian for a significant portion of my life, but I eventually grew out of it once I realized there is no reason to believe it.

You don't call the promise of Eternal Life a good enough reason? How picky are you?