[Professor Bessemer]

Re: You can call me BOH

I mean cmon guys, imagine if I was someone who was not enlightened to Christianity, and you guys are spewing about how the only way to be a Christian is to read the OT, and read about a world WITHOUT Christ in it. You don't see that as mislaeading people AWAY from Christianity? You don't see the problem with spewing that stuff?

No, I do not

And you seem incapable of understanding that reading half of God's Word is like taking half of a boat trip. You cannot disembark in heaven if you never got on the boat in the first place.

Try drinking the second half of a cup of coffee sometime.

[James Dewitt]

Re: You can call me BOH

I mean cmon guys, imagine if I was someone who was not enlightened to Christianity, and you guys are spewing about how the only way to be a Christian is to read the OT, and read about a world WITHOUT Christ in it. You don't see that as mislaeading people AWAY from Christianity? You don't see the problem with spewing that stuff?

Once again Mellon Head you missed the point. We read the entire Bible cover to cover. God gave us the Bible, who are you to pick and choose what You want to belie in?

[GOD=life]

Re: You can call me BOH

and you guys are spewing (biased much?) about how the only way to be a Christian is to read the OT

No, we are saying that the entire Bible should be followed as the entire Bible is God's Word. This fact is established in the Old Testament re-iterated in the New Testament.

So you don't care about Genesis just because it's in the OT? You don't think e.g. bestiality should be outlawed? It's only in the OT after all.

We do not care about convenience, we care about Truth, the whole Truth and nothing but the Truth. And that Truth is God's Word in the Bible.

If the Truth is not convenient to you... well, that's YOUR problem then, isn't it?

[GOD=life]

Re: You can call me BOH

imagine if I was someone who was not enlightened to Christianity, ...

That's not very hard for us to imagine at all, trust me on that one

[James Hutchins]

Re: You can call me BOH

David, as other and I have said repeatedly, it is the entire Bible, not just the fun parts you must read and follow. God does not like your resistance.

[Bag-Of-Hammers]

Re: You can call me BOH

This whole argument goes right back to Voodouism. THe religion merged with Catholosism and became very Old Testament like with elaborate, expensive rituals as the only way to salvation. I am thinking the Voodou religion was misled by the teaching that the only way to salvation is through the OT, and NOT through CHristianity. THey were told the only way to become a true Christian is by reading the OT.

[James Dewitt]

Re: You can call me BOH

This whole argument goes right back to Voodouism. THe religion merged with Catholosism and became very Old Testament like with elaborate, expensive rituals as the only way to salvation. I am thinking the Voodou religion was misled by the teaching that the only way to salvation is through the OT, and NOT through CHristianity. THey were told the only way to become a true Christian is by reading the OT.

Hammer Time look at it like this. Do you eat a balanced diet. Proteins, fruits, vegetables and grains? If you are a smart fella you do just that. It's not good for you to eat nothing but cake. Why do you even attempt to bring Voodoo and cathreliks into the conversation? We True Christians(TM) really could care less about either of them.
Jesus was sent to us to make it possible for our Salvation. Jesus was sent also to enforce the Old Testament. Jesus never said, hey for get what my Father told you, He is old and what He said no longer means any thing.

When you die and head up to the Pearly Gates of Heaven, and are turned away because you led your life half assed, do not say you were not warned.

[GOD=life]

Re: You can call me BOH

Why did you come here, Hammer boy?

If you want to become a True Christian, then you are welcome to learn. If you want to remain unsaved, please leave. Look a little at the top of the page, it says "unsaved unwelcome".

No one will take unsaved trash like you seriously unless you have proven that you grasp and understand Christianity.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: You can call me BOH

I mean cmon guys, imagine if I was someone who was not enlightened to Christianity, and you guys are spewing about how the only way to be a Christian is to read the OT, and read about a world WITHOUT Christ in it. You don't see that as mislaeading people AWAY from Christianity? You don't see the problem with spewing that stuff?

And there is your problem. Do you not believe that Jesus was there and looking over us before Creation?

John 17:5 “And now, O Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was.”

The division therefore between the OT and NT is zero. The Trinity was always there.

Jesus tells us that Matthew 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

All is fulfilled at the 2nd Coming, and not before. So the OT must be read with the NT.

BOH, you want a fluffy-bunny Christianity. You want to build a little god out of the bits you like - you want to build that little false god so he looks like you - then you can worship yourself and have "God" behind you.

It doesn't work like that and God knows your soul.

Repent!

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: You can call me BOH

By your teaching, that the OT is the way one should worshop God, you are instructing me to worshop him in very primitive ways. BY worshopping through Jesus, we are freed from ritualistic cleansing, because we have Jesus. Jesus got rid of all primitive ways of worshopping. Jesus is the ONLY way to salvation.

Were did I or Landover talk about bring back the Temple system? Quotes please or you don't have jack.

[Amethyst_the_goth]

Re: You can call me BOH

The Bible (KJV1611) consists of the Old and New Testament. The members of Landover do not pick and choose Bible scripture. The Word of God is not a cafeteria where you can just have pudding, you must eat from all the tables.

mmmm pudding. i like pudding

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: You can call me BOH

mmmm pudding. i like pudding

Hmmmm, we would like you to leave idiot.

[Bag-Of-Hammers]

Re: You can call me BOH

THe teachings and happenings of the NT provides instruction on the right way to worshop God. THe way to please God in the OT is through animal sacrifices. TO teach that to be a Christian, you need to read the OT is leading people down the wrong path.

[Mrs. Mary Whitford]

Re: You can call me BOH

Are you calling God a flip-flopper who can't make up His mind and changes His rules on a whim, playing games with our eternal souls and making us try and guess what He wants us to do next?
What a horrible picture you have of the Lord! He is loving and has set His rules down in black and white so we know exactly what we have to do to avoid burning in eternal agony!

[Bag-Of-Hammers]

Re: You can call me BOH

Are you calling God a flip-flopper who can't make up His mind and changes His rules on a whim, playing games with our eternal souls and making us try and guess what He wants us to do next?
What a horrible picture you have of the Lord! He is loving and has set His rules down in black and white so we know exactly what we have to do to avoid burning in eternal agony!

One of the ways Christ is a savior is that he rids the need for animal sacrifices and expensive rituals. The OT is a time before Christ walked the earth. TO steer people to the OT as the essential books to read in order to be saved, you are steering them to read of a world without Christ's saving graces. THe NT is the right way towards Christianity and salvation.