Is it a trick?

[JackBoden]

Hi All. you all seem to be such nice people and so accepting of other peoples opinions so I'd thought I'd share mine .

You all have some serious claims that if you don't follow the King James Version of the Bible you will go straight to hell.

First of all. There isn't a very good description of hell in the bible.

Infact the closest you'll get is “furnace of fire…weeping and gnashing of teeth” . And it definitly doesn't say you're stuck there for Eternal Damnation. “It is appointed unto men once to die and after that the judgment”.

Then I saw a Thread entitled 10 Reasons god hates Britain. So God hates the union of countries that translated the version of the bible you all read and believe in? Irony doesn't even do that justice.

Now my next major problem is in the bible it describes Satan as the best trickster of all time. What if Christianity is a trick being played by the devil to get everyone into a mass organization so he can get thousands into hell. What if it's all one big trick.

People Say god appeared to them. But god never appears to you. the Devil does!

I fear for you all are being tricked.

[GOD=life]

Re: Is it a trick?

First of all. There isn't a very good description of hell in the bible.

You probably mean there isn't a good description of Hell in the parts of the Bible that you read. The Bible is very clear about Hell being a place of fire and it being everlasting.

Just off the top of my head....

Luke 16:23 Luke 16:24 Matthew 8:12 Matthew 13:42 Matthew 13:50 Matthew 25:41 Revelation 20:15 Revelation 14:10 Psalm 9:17

Infact the closest you'll get...

I suspect that you will get a LOT closer to knowing the intimate details of Hell than any of us...

I fear for you all are being tricked.

I pray that you will find comfort in knowing we weren't tricked when we're all up in Heaven and you're burning in Hell

[JackBoden]

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There not very good descriptions though. They don't say I can't get out. They Don't say Im there eternally. And you can only go to hell or heaven if you believe in God anyway.

I fear you are being tricked friend.

[Wide-Open]

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There not very good descriptions though. They don't say I can't get out. They Don't say Im there eternally.

Matthew 25:46
And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

Which part of everlasting do you not understand?

And you can only go to hell or heaven if you believe in God anyway.

This is one of the most stupid things I have ever read on this forum.

So if I don't believe in cars, I can't get run over by one?

[GOD=life]

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There not very good descriptions though.

Someone actually wrote a letter from Hell is like:

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?p=657477

Are you really sure you want to go there..... ?

I fear you are being tricked friend.

My real friend, Jesus H. Christ, thinks otherwise.

[Lycia The Repentant]

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There not very good descriptions though. They don't say I can't get out. They Don't say Im there eternally. And you can only go to hell or heaven if you believe in God anyway.

I fear you are being tricked friend.

Friend, instead of worrying about us, perhaps you should spend more time reading your Bible. If you do so, you'll find it is quite clear on the fact that Hell is eternal.

"Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire." Matthew 18:8

"And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal." Matthew 25:46

"Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;" 2 Thessalonians 1:9

"Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire." Jude 1:7

"These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots; Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever." Jude 1:12-13

"And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever." Revelation 20:10

You are right that you can only go to Heaven if you believe in God (and accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior and also sincerely repent of your sins), but Hell is open for everybody, regardless of what they believe.

"But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death." Revelation 21:8

Pay special attention to the unbelieving and the idolaters in that verse, friend.

[Sheldon the Swede]

Re: Is it a trick?

Matthew 25:46
And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

Which part of everlasting do you not understand?



This is one of the most stupid things I have ever read on this forum.

So if I don't believe in cars, I can't get run over by one?

Yeah, but the main difference is that God doesn't exist, cars actually does exist, and you see them everyday.

[Bible Student]

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Yeah, but the main difference is that God doesn't exist, cars actually does exist, and you see them everyday.

When was the last time you actually saw neutrinos, or even gravity for that matter?

[GOD=life]

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Yeah, but the main difference is that God doesn't exist, cars actually does exist, and you see them everyday.

That's a bit simplistic:

• Did cars just "plop" out of nowhere? No, of course not. They had to be created, just like everything that exists has had to have been created. The fact that we exist at all proves that God exists. Think about it: without God, you wouldn't even be able to ponder whether God exists.
• God is observed every single day by the vast majority of Americans (also by non-Americans, but they don't really count). Do you think people pray to God and let their lives be controlled by God if God didn't exist?
• It's because of God that "president" Obama hasn't yet been able to use America's nuclear arsenal against his own people. Like Saddam Obama Hussein.

On behalf of all Christians, we wish you a pleasant day and the safety that you enjoy based on a little Christian concept called "thou shalt not kill".

[ExGay Alex]

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Yeah, but the main difference is that God doesn't exist, cars actually does exist, and you see them everyday.

Sheldon, you are a danger to yourself and others with statements like this.

Read Psalms 14:1. Christ warned us about you. 2 Peter 3:3. And you know what is the consequence of your actions? 2 Peter 2:1.

You will burn.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

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First of all. There isn't a very good description of hell in the bible.

http://www.av1611.org/hell.html

There's not much of a description of heaven either but from what we do know it is wonderful and you won't be seeing it.

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Is it a trick?

Hi All. you all seem to be such nice people and so accepting of other peoples opinions so I'd thought I'd share mine .

You all have some serious claims that if you don't follow the King James Version of the Bible you will go straight to hell.

First of all. There isn't a very good description of hell in the bible.

Infact the closest you'll get is “furnace of fire…weeping and gnashing of teeth” . And it definitly doesn't say you're stuck there for Eternal Damnation. “It is appointed unto men once to die and after that the judgment”.

What do you think happens after the judgement?

Then I saw a Thread entitled 10 Reasons god hates Britain. So God hates the union of countries that translated the version of the bible you all read and believe in? Irony doesn't even do that justice.

I don't see what you're getting so worked up about. God chose the Jews as His special people and now He hates them as well, I suppose you think that's ironic as well?

Now my next major problem is in the bible it describes Satan as the best trickster of all time. What if Christianity is a trick being played by the devil to get everyone into a mass organization so he can get thousands into hell. What if it's all one big trick.

Congratulations, you have just correctly described Catholicism.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Is it a trick?

Hi All. you all seem to be such nice people and so accepting of other peoples opinions so I'd thought I'd share mine .

You all have some serious claims that if you don't follow the King James Version of the Bible you will go straight to hell.

First of all. There isn't a very good description of hell in the bible.

Infact the closest you'll get is “furnace of fire…weeping and gnashing of teeth” . And it definitly doesn't say you're stuck there for Eternal Damnation. “It is appointed unto men once to die and after that the judgment”.

Then I saw a Thread entitled 10 Reasons god hates Britain. So God hates the union of countries that translated the version of the bible you all read and believe in? Irony doesn't even do that justice.

Now my next major problem is in the bible it describes Satan as the best trickster of all time. What if Christianity is a trick being played by the devil to get everyone into a mass organization so he can get thousands into hell. What if it's all one big trick.

People Say god appeared to them. But god never appears to you. the Devil does!

I fear for you all are being tricked.

Is that what you call an introduction in your "country?"

We aren't even slightly interested in your unsaved opinions. We're interested in what Jesus thinks. Who are you to second guess the God who temporarily suffered and died for my sins?

[Gabriel Reproba]

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First of all. There isn't a very good description of hell in the bible.

Are you retarded or are you a belgian? I only ask because when people come here and spew lies that are so easily debunked like this they must be one or the other.

Let me do the heavy lifting for you:

A place of weeping and gnashing of teeth - And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth" (Matthew 25:30).



A place of outer darkness - "Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth" (Matthew 22:13).

A place of torments - "And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom" (Luke 16:23).

A place of Sorrows - "The sorrows of hell compassed me about; the snares of death prevented me;" (2 Samuel 22:6).

A place of everlasting destruction - "Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;" (II Thessalonians 1:9).

A place where men are tormented with fire and brimstone - "But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death" (Revelation 21:8).

A place where fire is not quenched - "Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched" (Mark 9:44).

A bottomless pit - "And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit" (Revelation 9:2).

A place of no rest - "And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name" (Revelation 14:11).

It is ultimately a lake of fire - "And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death" (Revelation 20:14).

A place of hopeless of unsatisfied desires - "And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame " (Luke 16:24). The rich man wanted water but could not get any.

Now what were you saying?

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Is it a trick?

Are you retarded or are you a belgian?

Is there a difference?