Hello.

[TomTomat]

Greetings to you all.

I have to say this as early as possible; I do not believe in God. Nor am I an atheist. As it is right now, I really don't believe anything other than the things I can take for granted. For example, I know spaghetti is tasty because I enjoy eating it.

However, I don't know if there is a higher power. But I sure want to believe that.

Whenever I'm in a church, I never think of it as any other building. Even though I rarely go to church, they always make me look up and wonder. No other form of structure does that to me.

When my grandpa died, the priest at funeral said something of the likes "But do net fret, for as he departures on the boat to next life, his near and dear already dead will wait for him there." I really want to believe that.

At the same time, the theory of evolution for example, makes a lot of sense to me after studying it. So do some other explanations. But it is right now the one theory I would "support", I guess. But as said, I don't really know.

I have come here to make new friends and hopefully get answers to some of my questions.

My favorite Bible verse is:

I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. (Revelation 21:6)

That is all from me.

Have a nice day.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: Hello.

I do not believe in God. Nor am I an atheist.

Do you even know what an atheist is?

[TomTomat]

Re: Hello.

Do you even know what an atheist is?

Atheism is in a broad sense the rejection of belief in the existence of deities, as far as I know. I have not chosen not to believe in anything, since I still don't know what is the truth.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Hello.

Greetings to you all.

When my grandpa died, the priest at funeral said something of the likes "But do net fret, for as he departures on the boat to next life, his near and dear already dead will wait for him there."

What was your grandfather? Some sort of Ancient Greek crossing the River Styx?

If I were you I'd stop that sort of thing immediately, it is well-known that all Greeks are homers and that all the ancient ones are in Hell.

[John Creeser]

Re: Hello.

I couldn't help but notice your avatar - I hope you are not insinuating that God is a Negro?

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Hello.

Greetings to you all.

I have to say this as early as possible; I do not believe in God. Nor am I an atheist. As it is right now, I really don't believe anything other than the things I can take for granted. For example, I know spaghetti is tasty because I enjoy eating it.

However, I don't know if there is a higher power. But I sure want to believe that.

Whenever I'm in a church, I never think of it as any other building. Even though I rarely go to church, they always make me look up and wonder. No other form of structure does that to me.

When my grandpa died, the priest at funeral said something of the likes "But do net fret, for as he departures on the boat to next life, his near and dear already dead will wait for him there." I really want to believe that.

At the same time, the theory of evolution for example, makes a lot of sense to me after studying it. So do some other explanations. But it is right now the one theory I would "support", I guess. But as said, I don't really know.

I have come here to make new friends and hopefully get answers to some of my questions.

My favorite Bible verse is:

I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.

That is all from me.

Have a nice day. (Revelation 21:6)

Are you a stealth pastafarian?



Yours in Christ,

Zechariah Smyth

[TomTomat]

Re: Hello.

What was your grandfather? Some sort of Ancient Greek crossing the River Styx?

If I were you I'd stop that sort of thing immediately, it is well-known that all Greeks are homers and that all the ancient ones are in Hell.

My grandfather was a Christian. The boat crossing over was probably just a metaphor.

I live in Sweden, and I guess some of our old beliefs still haunt "newer" ones however, so to speak.

Nice meeting you.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: Hello.

Atheism is in a broad sense the rejection of belief in the existence of deities, as far as I know. I have not chosen not to believe in anything, since I still don't know what is the truth.

Yes. Absolutely correct. An atheist is someone who does not believe in God. Since you do not believe in God, this makes you an atheist. This also means you have loose morals and practice treachery and sodomy. How do you justify doing good deeds if you are an atheist?

[TomTomat]

Re: Hello.

I couldn't help but notice your avatar - I hope you are not insinuating that God is a Negro?

If God does exist, he can probably take on any form he chooses. If he want to be black, he probably can. Doesn't mean he has to be. I just like the idea of God giving a thumbs up. Color has nothing to do with the messege of the picture.

Are you a stealth pastafarian?

Yours in Christ,
Zechariah Smyth

Hm? Oh, you mean that spaghetti-monster-thing? No, in that case I am not a pastafarian. I just like spaghetti.

[Alfred King]

Re: Hello.

I couldn't help but notice your avatar - I hope you are not insinuating that God is a Negro?

Why not?

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: Hello.

If God does exist, he can probably take on any form he chooses. If he want to be black, he probably can. Doesn't mean he has to be. I just like the idea of God giving a thumbs up. Color has nothing to do with the messege of the picture.


Hm? Oh, you mean that spaghetti-monster-thing? No, in that case I am not a pastafarian. I just like spaghetti.

Spaghetti is the most revolting substance in nature. It is a false idol, and God despises those who worship false idols.


Genesis 35:2 (King James Version) 2Then Jacob said unto his household, and to all that were with him, Put away the strange gods that are among you, and be clean, and change your garments:


Exodus 20:3-5 (King James Version) 3Thou shalt have no other gods before me. 4Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. 5Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;


Exodus 20:23 (King James Version) 23Ye shall not make with me gods of silver, neither shall ye make unto you gods of gold.


Exodus 23:13 (King James Version) 13And in all things that I have said unto you be circumspect: and make no mention of the name of other gods, neither let it be heard out of thy mouth.


Leviticus 19:4 (King James Version) 4Turn ye not unto idols, nor make to yourselves molten gods: I am the LORD your God.


Leviticus 26:1 (King James Version) 1Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, neither rear you up a standing image, neither shall ye set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I am the LORD your God.


Deuteronomy 4:16 16Lest ye corrupt yourselves, and make you a graven image, the similitude of any figure, the likeness of male or female,


Deuteronomy 4:19 19And lest thou lift up thine eyes unto heaven, and when thou seest the sun, and the moon, and the stars, even all the host of heaven, shouldest be driven to worship them, and serve them, which the LORD thy God hath divided unto all nations under the whole heaven.


Deuteronomy 4:28 28And there ye shall serve gods, the work of men's hands, wood and stone, which neither see, nor hear, nor eat, nor smell.


Deuteronomy 27:15 (King James Version) 15Cursed be the man that maketh any graven or molten image, an abomination unto the LORD, the work of the hands of the craftsman, and putteth it in a secret place. And all the people shall answer and say, Amen.


1 Samuel 15:23 (King James Version) 23For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king.


2 Kings 18:4 (King James Version) 4He removed the high places, and brake the images, and cut down the groves, and brake in pieces the brasen serpent that Moses had made: for unto those days the children of Israel did burn incense to it: and he called it Nehushtan.


Psalm 115:4-5 (King James Version) 4Their idols are silver and gold, the work of men's hands. 5They have mouths, but they speak not: eyes have they, but they see not:


Isaiah 42:17 (King James Version) 17They shall be turned back, they shall be greatly ashamed, that trust in graven images, that say to the molten images, Ye are our gods.


Isaiah 45:20 (King James Version) 20Assemble yourselves and come; draw near together, ye that are escaped of the nations: they have no knowledge that set up the wood of their graven image, and pray unto a god that cannot save.


Jeremiah 19:4-5 (King James Version) 4Because they have forsaken me, and have estranged this place, and have burned incense in it unto other gods, whom neither they nor their fathers have known, nor the kings of Judah, and have filled this place with the blood of innocents; 5They have built also the high places of Baal, to burn their sons with fire for burnt offerings unto Baal, which I commanded not, nor spake it, neither came it into my mind:


Ezekiel 23:37 (King James Version) 37That they have committed adultery, and blood is in their hands, and with their idols have they committed adultery, and have also caused their sons, whom they bare unto me, to pass for them through the fire, to devour them.


Acts 17:29 (King James Version) 29Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.


Romans 1:22-23 (King James Version) 22Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, 23And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.


Romans 1:25 (King James Version) 25Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.


1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (King James Version) 9Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.


1 Corinthians 8:1-13 (King James Version)1Now as touching things offered unto idols, we know that we all have knowledge. Knowledge puffeth up, but charity edifieth. 2And if any man think that he knoweth any thing, he knoweth nothing yet as he ought to know. 3But if any man love God, the same is known of him. 4As concerning therefore the eating of those things that are offered in sacrifice unto idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is none other God but one. 5For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,) 6But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him. 7Howbeit there is not in every man that knowledge: for some with conscience of the idol unto this hour eat it as a thing offered unto an idol; and their conscience being weak is defiled. 8But meat commendeth us not to God: for neither, if we eat, are we the better; neither, if we eat not, are we the worse. 9But take heed lest by any means this liberty of yours become a stumblingblock to them that are weak. 10For if any man see thee which hast knowledge sit at meat in the idol's temple, shall not the conscience of him which is weak be emboldened to eat those things which are offered to idols; 11And through thy knowledge shall the weak brother perish, for whom Christ died? 12But when ye sin so against the brethren, and wound their weak conscience, ye sin against Christ. 13Wherefore, if meat make my brother to offend, I will eat no flesh while the world standeth, lest I make my brother to offend.


1 Corinthians 10:7 (King James Version) 7Neither be ye idolaters, as were some of them; as it is written, The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play.


1 Corinthians 10:14 (King James Version) 14Wherefore, my dearly beloved, flee from idolatry.


1 Corinthians 10:20 (King James Version) 20But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils.


1 Corinthians 12:2 (King James Version) 2Ye know that ye were Gentiles, carried away unto these dumb idols, even as ye were led.


1 Peter 4:3 (King James Version) 3For the time past of our life may suffice us to have wrought the will of the Gentiles, when we walked in lasciviousness, lusts, excess of wine, revellings, banquetings, and abominable idolatries:


1 John 5:21 (King James Version) 21Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen.


Revelation 2:14 (King James Version) 14But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication.


Revelation 2:20 (King James Version) 20Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.


Revelation 9:20 (King James Version) 20And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:


Revelation 21:8 (King James Version) 8But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.



Also, if color has nothing to do with the message of the picture, why did you choose to make God colored instead of white like you know He is?

[TomTomat]

Re: Hello.

Yes. Absolutely correct. An atheist is someone who does not believe in God. Since you do not believe in God, this makes you an atheist. This also means you have loose morals and practice treachery and sodomy. How do you justify doing good deeds if you are an atheist?

Well I guess you are right. Then again, I believe in God about as much as I don't believe in him. I'm not saying he doesn't exist. If someone tells me there is a dog under my chair, I will look under my chair to see before I believe, or don't believe, that there is a dog under my chair.

As of now, I do what feels right to do. And that means enjoying life without hurting others. That makes me happy.

[TomTomat]

Re: Hello.

Spaghetti is the most revolting substance in nature. It is a false idol, and God despises those who worship false idols.

Also, if color has nothing to do with the message of the picture, why did you choose to make God colored instead of white like you know He is?

What is wrong with normal spaghetti? I do not believe in the spaghetti monster.

I like the color, I like all colors. And no, I do not know if he is white. I thought I made that pretty clear in my first post; I don't know if God even exists. But if I find out that he does exist and indeed isn't black, I'll be sure to change the picture.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: Hello.

Well I guess you are right. Then again, I believe in God about as much as I don't believe in him. I'm not saying he doesn't exist. If someone tells me there is a dog under my chair, I will look under my chair to see before I believe, or don't believe, that there is a dog under my chair.

As of now, I do what feels right to do. And that means enjoying life without hurting others. That makes me happy.

It is impossible for you to believe in God as much as you don't believe in God as not believing in God is the absence of a belief in God. This is a fundamental principle of logic and common sense. Saying that you believe in God as much as you don't believe in God is like saying the card you are holding is a red card as much as it is a black card, when it is in fact one or the other.

You admit that you have no reason to do good. You just do it because you feel like it. That means you don't believe in God.

See how simple that is? Just admit that you are an atheist. Now humble yourself before Christ and force yourself to change your belief system! Instead of believing in nothing, try believing in the King James Bible! Then you can come to Heaven with us! Hallelujia!

[Alphonse Alban]

Re: Hello.

But if I find out that he does exist and indeed isn't black, I'll be sure to change the picture.

Of course He exists, and of course He is not black. It says so right here!

Revelation 1:12-14

And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks; And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire.