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  • Clamper13
    Unsaved trash, false Christian
    • Dec 2011
    • 14

    #1

    Greetings (tldr?)

    With great humility and respect I ask to introduce myself.


    My Unsaved Trash title is fully deserved, as I do not attend any church, and have yet to read more than a few snippits of the Bible.


    I do arrive with open heart and mind, and earnestly supplicate to those willing to offer their selfless guidance, thus help me fill the near empty niche in my frontal lobe I have reserved for faith in the One True God.


    I stumbled blindly upon this site, then was inexorably drawn to it by the gravity of abundunt truths found herein. We could call this my first baby step out from the darkness, but that wouldn't be the truth.


    The truth is this. I heard some questions which begged an answer. They went something like this.


    "He has condemned Satan to hell yet gave him dominion on earth instead of imposing his sentence, in other words, a reward! Justice delayed is justice denied. WHY DOES GOD WAIT!?"


    I though about it, and it made me grrr mad. Then a light bulb went off in my head. Not literally of course. The Bible is to be taken literally, not the scribbling of mere mortals.


    Far be it for our mere mortal minds to fully comprehend God's agenda. He is a busy deity. I could imagine him still working six days a week. I could understand that with his current mundane workload, you know, wars, plague, famine, tsunamis, that He's a busy God. Add all those prayers to answer, daily miracles and his Son's upcoming birthday, then it should be abundantly clear for us to understand that it will happen when God is good and ready for it to happen. If you want it to happen, then pray for it to happen, then get over yourself, okay?


    Planning the apocalypse and all its minutae is hardly a small matter. It's been imminent for only a couple of thousand years. That's just a blink of eye in God-time. Why the rush?


    Surely God has given that man something better to do than spew some crazy notion that he knows what is better for us than He does. The man just needs to suck it up, and get back to praying and proselytizing, right?


    One more thing to think about while we're waiting.


    Aren't Satan and his cronies on some sort of house arrest pending the outcome of their appeal? The prosecution might be stalling, knowing full well Satan's propensity for screwing up will land him in more trouble, perhaps resulting in consecutive eternity sentences.


    I mentioned earlier that I have only read snippets of The Bible. This one is currently my favorite. There is no real explanation why, it just feels good right now.


    Psalms 16:11 (excerpt) - at thy right hand there are pleasures for evermore.


    Sorry for the long post, but that guy really got my goat.
    A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, and a rod for the fool's back. Proverbs 26:3
  • Brother Harold Porter
    Landover Senior Outreach
    Touching Men, Women and Children with the Good News!
    True Christian™
    • Jun 2010
    • 8236

    #2
    Re: Greetings (tldr?)

    TLDR indeed.

    Would it be fair to conclude that you are not a Christian, young man? Why are you here among simple God loving people that only seek to praise Jesus Christ? You have yet to tell us a "snippit" about yourself.

    Would you mock us so close to His birthday?

    In Christ
    Matthew 19:14 "But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven."

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    • Jedediah
      True Christian™ Creation Scientist
      Fisher of Men
      True Christian™
      • Feb 2010
      • 6824

      #3
      Re: Greetings (tldr?)

      Far be it for our mere mortal minds to fully comprehend God's agenda.
      When we do not understand the LORD's ways, we may yet rejoice in His promises. People often get hung up on the small details and expect every aspect of His Plan to make sense to their sin-addled minds.

      I Corinthians 1:23-27
      But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
      But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
      Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
      For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:
      But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;


      People run into all sorts of difficulty when they try to think for themselves (Proverbs 3:5-6). Frankly, why people who do not have the Holy Spirit dwelling within them to guide their discernment try to grapple with such complex spiritual matters is beyond me. It's simpler to just accept Christ, get Saved, accept the Truth of Christian doctrine and go from there.
      II Thessalonians 1:7-9
      And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
      In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
      Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power



      The man who is being progressively sanctified will inescapably sanctify his home, school, politics, economics, science, and all things else by understanding and interpreting all things in terms of the Word of God and by bringing all things under the Dominion of Christ the King. -R.J. Rushdoony

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      • Rev. M. Rodimer
        Honorary True Christian™
        Forum Member
        • May 2008
        • 13996

        #4
        Re: Greetings (tldr?)

        Hello, Clamps.

        Far be it for our mere mortal minds to fully comprehend God's agenda. He is a busy deity. I could imagine him still working six days a week. I could understand that with his current mundane workload, you know, wars, plague, famine, tsunamis, that He's a busy God. Add all those prayers to answer, daily miracles and his Son's upcoming birthday, then it should be abundantly clear for us to understand that it will happen when God is good and ready for it to happen. If you want it to happen, then pray for it to happen, then get over yourself, okay?
        Well said! I'm glad you could answer your own question.


        Planning the apocalypse and all its minutae is hardly a small matter. It's been imminent for only a couple of thousand years. That's just a blink of eye in God-time. Why the rush?
        When you recall that the entire universe is only about 6,000 years old, it's a really short time compared to eternity.

        Bear in mind also that God knows everything, including the future.

        That means that before He created Satan, He knew Satan would be evil. Yet He made Satan anyway.

        What does this tell us?

        It tells us that it is God's Will that Satan prowl the earth, testing the faith of the faithful and deluding the weak with video games, pornography, and Disney movies.

        Why don't you read the Bible?

        What else can we help you with?
        Bible boring? Nonsense!
        Try Bible in a Year with Brother V, or join Shirlee and the kids as they discuss Real Bible Stories!
        You can't be a Christian if you don't know God's Word!

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        • Clamper13
          Unsaved trash, false Christian
          • Dec 2011
          • 14

          #5
          Re: Greetings (tldr?)

          Originally posted by Brother Harold Porter View Post
          TLDR indeed.

          Would it be fair to conclude that you are not a Christian, young man?
          It would be exceeding proper to conclude that, as I'll attest by quoting an excerpt from my original post. If by definition I qualify as 'not a Christian', I'll fully agree.

          Originally posted by Clamper13 View Post
          ... I do not attend any church, and have yet to read more than a few snippits of the Bible.
          Originally posted by Brother Harold Porter View Post
          Why are you here among simple God loving people that only seek to praise Jesus Christ?
          I hope you'll forgive my attempted simplicity, but I just can't say it simpler than I've already said.
          Originally posted by Clamper13 View Post
          I ... arrive with open heart and mind, and earnestly supplicate to those willing to offer their selfless guidance, thus help me fill the near empty niche in my frontal lobe I have reserved for faith in the One True God.
          That said, if this site is solely to suit the purpose of those who love God and seek to praise His Son, then I am mistaken, and I beseech you to forgive my intrusion.

          On the other hand, if it's allowable for a wanderer ignorant of The Truth to ask for and receive help, then I won't have to leave and risk getting advice from heathens.

          Originally posted by Brother Harold Porter View Post
          You have yet to tell us a "snippit" about yourself.
          Ask anything. I will reply.

          I will let you know though, I am no 'young man'. Thanks anyway, that made my day.

          Unless of course, if we're all considered children of God. In that case, I am but a mere babe, ripe for inculcation.

          Originally posted by Brother Harold Porter View Post
          Would you mock us so close to His birthday?
          NO, nor any other day of the year. I see how this site treats those who mock, and frankly...enough said.
          A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, and a rod for the fool's back. Proverbs 26:3

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          • Clamper13
            Unsaved trash, false Christian
            • Dec 2011
            • 14

            #6
            Re: Greetings (tldr?)

            Originally posted by Rev. M. Rodimer View Post
            ...
            Why don't you read the Bible?

            What else can we help you with?
            Indeed I will. I'll start with Genesis Chapter 1, 1769 KJV.

            I hope you don't mind if I pop in from time. I might need help to make sure that I 'get it'.
            A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, and a rod for the fool's back. Proverbs 26:3

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            • Redeemed Papist
              Former Mary Hailer who has seen The Light(c)
              True Christian™
              • Jul 2011
              • 10409

              #7
              Re: Greetings (tldr?)

              Originally posted by Clamper13 View Post
              Indeed I will. I'll start with Genesis Chapter 1, 1769 KJV.

              I hope you don't mind if I pop in from time. I might need help to make sure that I 'get it'.
              You shouldn't do. The Bible really is as simple as "Do this my way for I am God and I will burn you forever if you don't." All you have to do is throw away all the secular nonsense you have been brainwashed with by liberal gays over the years and read the Bible open to God's will. You'll soon understand what God wants you to do.

              I'll give you a clue: it's not to love everybody.
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              Isaiah 34:6 The sword of the LORD is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the LORD hath a sacrifice in Bozrah, and a great slaughter in the land of Idumea.

              John 5:46,47 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

              Join me in scoffing at backwards Muslims clinging to their beliefs in the face of the evidence!
              The truth about volcanos
              Sex and debauchery in public schools
              Faith wins over science (explained for even the very stupid)
              God Cures AIDS - GLORY!
              Desert whale bones prove Great Flood once and for all.

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              • Ezekiel Bathfire
                Pastor for Diversity and Tolerance
                Christ's Rottweiler
                 
                • Jan 2008
                • 22931

                #8
                Re: Greetings (tldr?)

                Originally posted by Clamper13 View Post
                My Unsaved Trash title is fully deserved, as I do not attend any church, and have yet to read more than a few snippits of the Bible.
                …and yet you feel qualified to comment on The Lord of Hosts, The Holy Spirit, and His Son, The Redeemer, their motivation, and psychology?

                Is this not the same as buying the book, “Learn Japanese.” Opening it once or twice and pronouncing you are fluent in Japanese?

                Like most Atheists, you are a few sandwiches short of a picnic.
                "He has condemned Satan to hell yet gave him dominion on earth instead of imposing his sentence, in other words, a reward! Justice delayed is justice denied. WHY DOES GOD WAIT!?"
                But the Earth is filled with people like you – do you think it is pleasant for us True Christians™ to have to share this planet with vile, sinning ignoramuses? That we enjoy having to explain the blindingly obvious? That our suggestions for improvements to a godless society go unheeded? That our words, which are God’s Words, are as seed cast upon stony ground?

                You think perhaps that life in the temporal realm is itself heaven?!!??

                Why should not Satan walk the Earth?? Life is nothing but a vale of tears where suffering and sorrow abound! Daily, we face wars and the rumors of wars – we see signs in the heavens – Biblical Prophecies come true by the month (and have been doing for centuries) and yet our warnings go unheeded!

                God, in His Mercy, sent Satan to Earth – compared with Heaven this is punishment enough.
                Surely God has given that man something better to do than spew some crazy notion that he knows what is better for us than He does. The man just needs to suck it up, and get back to praying and proselytizing, right?
                Does your dog complain that you don’t feed him fillet steak? Does your cat whine that you have not given it a light aircraft or your goat a bike? Are your servants ungrateful for their accommodation? No! Even animals know better than to complain to their Lord and Master; they are grateful and loyal for what they have and do not go complaining to their Lord and Master!
                Aren't Satan and his cronies on some sort of house arrest pending the outcome of their appeal?
                No. They are doing their job and suffering as they are separated from God’s Presence – they know they will never enter heaven – You have a chance – take it!
                Sorry for the long post, but that guy really got my goat.
                which is a pity because your goat, who has probably ridden away on that bike, has more sense than you!
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                “We must reassert that the essence of Christianity is the love of obedience to God’s Laws and that how that complete obedience is used or implemented does not concern us.”

                Author of such illuminating essays as,
                Map of the Known World; Periodic Table of Elements; The History of Linguistics; The Errors of Wicca; Dolphins and Evolution; The History of Landover (The Apology); Landover and the Civil War; 2000 Racial Slurs.

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                • Clamper13
                  Unsaved trash, false Christian
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 14

                  #9
                  Re: Greetings (tldr?)

                  Please accept my sincere thanks for taking the time for such a comprehensive reply, Mister Pastor, and all the other emminents who have shown interest in my quest.

                  The bulk of my life has been squandered. I was being led astray, blindfolded and in bondage, by God haters, under the guise of science and reason, in California no less, and very close to the modern Sodom and Gomorrah we call San Francisco and Berkeley.

                  They poisoned my soul with their vile lies, so much so, that I still harbor many of their devilish notions; equal rights among all people, the universe is billions of years old, humans evolved from lower species, Disney movies are great for kids, etc.

                  Only God knows when we are born and when we die. My feeble mind can only look at it actuarially, and that shows that I am well past the halfway mark. Thus not much time remains, with coming apocolypse and all, to expurgate all the irrelevant and irreverent mental vomit that has marinated my brain.

                  The only thing I'm qualified to comment is my own ignorance. At best I recognize the huge undertaking in front of me. I am under no illusion that it will be easy or painless, but it needs to happen, and how, and now.

                  Some may consider me to already be a lost cause, not worth saving. To them I say, let God decide (like He hasn't already, duh!).

                  Some may see a glimmer of potential in that Clamper. To them I say, I too see a glimmer. It's distant, but its light and warmth are unmistakable. It is the light of the love of God. I'll march forward, for the love of God.

                  Hopefully I'll get there, don God's armor, and join the fight to end evil in the world.

                  But right now, temptation is calling. I have the Redskins and eight points. Got to go.
                  A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, and a rod for the fool's back. Proverbs 26:3

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                  • Ezekiel Bathfire
                    Pastor for Diversity and Tolerance
                    Christ's Rottweiler
                     
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 22931

                    #10
                    Re: Greetings (tldr?)

                    Originally posted by Clamper13 View Post
                    Only God knows when we are born and when we die.
                    Apart from that bit (my mother knew when I was born - all 14 pounds of me, and I know when she died) that's much better.

                    Read, mark learn and inwardly digest more of Landover's wisdom that you may see Our Lord in all His Glory and recognize the Paths of Righteousness for His Name's Sake, Amen.
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                    “We must reassert that the essence of Christianity is the love of obedience to God’s Laws and that how that complete obedience is used or implemented does not concern us.”

                    Author of such illuminating essays as,
                    Map of the Known World; Periodic Table of Elements; The History of Linguistics; The Errors of Wicca; Dolphins and Evolution; The History of Landover (The Apology); Landover and the Civil War; 2000 Racial Slurs.

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                    • Brother Harold Porter
                      Landover Senior Outreach
                      Touching Men, Women and Children with the Good News!
                      True Christian™
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 8236

                      #11
                      Re: Greetings (tldr?)

                      Originally posted by Clamper13 View Post
                      The bulk of my life has been squandered. I was being led astray, blindfolded and in bondage, by God haters, under the guise of science and reason, in California no less, and very close to the modern Sodom and Gomorrah we call San Francisco and Berkeley.
                      Are you actually a clamper, my friend? Squandering even more time at your ECV cult meetings, swilling beer, trading pornography and playing wicked games with those 52 devils in a box? If so, Jesus weeps.

                      In Christ
                      Matthew 19:14 "But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven."

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                      • Clamper13
                        Unsaved trash, false Christian
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 14

                        #12
                        Re: Greetings (tldr?)

                        Originally posted by Brother Harold Porter View Post
                        Are you actually a clamper, my friend? Squandering even more time at your ECV cult meetings, swilling beer, trading pornography and playing wicked games with those 52 devils in a box? If so, Jesus weeps.

                        In Christ
                        With unfettered contrition I freely admit guilty as charged to all the above, and the countless other perversions that marching lockstep towards hell with their ilk entails.
                        A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, and a rod for the fool's back. Proverbs 26:3

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                        • Clamper13
                          Unsaved trash, false Christian
                          • Dec 2011
                          • 14

                          #13
                          Re: Greetings (tldr?)

                          Yesterday I recieved an infraction. I violated the rules. I was wrong.

                          My PM function is not enabled so I cannot thank Bob4God privately, so I publicly thank him for pointing that out.

                          I have reread both the TOC. It is succinct an unequivocal. I hereby reaffirm my agreement to abide by it.

                          I have also reread my rights. I fully recognize the authority assigned therin. I avow to conform with others who have received their approbations.

                          I'd rather not hop back into my handbasket and cast myself into the river which leads to the lake of fire, with only the vain hope of rescue by some modern day pharaoh's daughter to keep me company.

                          It's time for me to pray.

                          Daniel 9:9-10
                          9To the Lord our God belong mercies and forgivenesses, though we have rebelled against him;
                          10Neither have we obeyed the voice of the LORD our God, to walk in his laws, which he set before us by his servants the prophets.

                          Psalm 34:18 - The LORD is nigh unto them that are of a broken heart; and saveth such as be of a contrite spirit.
                          A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, and a rod for the fool's back. Proverbs 26:3

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                          • Ezekiel Bathfire
                            Pastor for Diversity and Tolerance
                            Christ's Rottweiler
                             
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 22931

                            #14
                            Re: Greetings (tldr?)

                            Lu:15:4: What man of you, having an hundred sheep, if he lose one of them, doth not leave the ninety and nine in the wilderness, and go after that which is lost, until he find it?
                            Lu:15:5: And when he hath found it, he layeth it on his shoulders, rejoicing.
                            Lu:15:6: And when he cometh home, he calleth together his friends and neighbours, saying unto them, Rejoice with me; for I have found my sheep which was lost.
                            Lu:15:7: I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance.
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                            “We must reassert that the essence of Christianity is the love of obedience to God’s Laws and that how that complete obedience is used or implemented does not concern us.”

                            Author of such illuminating essays as,
                            Map of the Known World; Periodic Table of Elements; The History of Linguistics; The Errors of Wicca; Dolphins and Evolution; The History of Landover (The Apology); Landover and the Civil War; 2000 Racial Slurs.

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                            • Brother Harold Porter
                              Landover Senior Outreach
                              Touching Men, Women and Children with the Good News!
                              True Christian™
                              • Jun 2010
                              • 8236

                              #15
                              Re: Greetings (tldr?)

                              Originally posted by Clamper13 View Post
                              Yesterday I recieved an infraction. I violated the rules. I was wrong.

                              My PM function is not enabled so I cannot thank Bob4God privately, so I publicly thank him for pointing that out.
                              Praise God, my friend! Indeed, I read the questionable post you were rightly infractionated for and could only clear my mind after private time and prayer in my study.

                              You see, some of us here have lived the lurid filth you described, and are walking away from such wickedness and sin with the help of Jesus Christ. And you must always keep in mind that many young children are on their father's laps every evening reading our Godly forums, for Bible Study and homeschool research assignments.

                              Few here accept infractions and learn from them as you have done. Nothing more than a gentle tap on the shoulders from Jesus through our men of God. If He would frown, we will to.

                              You will be in my prayers as you develop your personal relationship with our Savior. Thank you for your sincere apology.

                              In Christ
                              Matthew 19:14 "But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven."

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