[Holyfield]

Re: John 2:20 - How old was Jesus?

Historically Jesus could not have been as old as 46 at the time of His crucifixion.

The taxing that Luke 2:1-2 mentions most probably took place in 7 BC.

Pilate was prefect of Judaea between 26 AD and 37 AD.

Hence Jesus must have been between the age of 33 and 44 when He was crucified.

[Pim Pendergast]

Re: John 2:20 - How old was Jesus?

Historically Jesus could not have been as old as 46 at the time of His crucifixion.

The taxing that Luke 2:1-2 mentions most probably took place in 7 BC.

Pilate was prefect of Judaea between 26 AD and 37 AD.

Hence Jesus must have been between the age of 33 and 44 when He was crucified.

Holyfield, we know that Jesus was born during the reigns of Herod the Great (37-4 BC) and Caesar Augustus (27 BC-14 AD). The only pieces of the puzzle that may not seem to fit are the timing of the census and Cyrenius' governorship. Josephus suggests that the census took place as late as 6 or 7 AD. But as Christians, if there appears to be a discrepancy between Scripture and secular history and archaeology, we look for answers that confirm the Word of God. There are many theories out there. I did some googling. Some say that Cyrenius served two terms as governor of Syria and that his first term was earlier than Josephus stated. Or that there was more than one census during Caesar Augustus' reign. Or that many years elapsed between the issuing of the decree and Cyrenius' ascension to office and the completion of the census. These sites generally support a relatively late date for the birth of Jesus (by ignoring John's account!), but it goes to show that there are many plausible alternatives. I know I would rather trust the Bible over some old book written by Josephus decades after the events actually occurred. The internal evidence of the Bible suggests Jesus was 46 when He cleansed the Temple. We don't need to twist the Bible to fit history. We need to find possible historical scenarios that fit the Bible.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: John 2:20 - How old was Jesus?

We don't need to twist the Bible to fit history. We need to find possible historical scenarios that fit the Bible.

Amen, Brother Pendergast!

I make very certain my children know without a doubt the Holy Word of God, found in the King James Version Holy Bible, is Never Wrong! It does NOT need to be re-interpreted to fit modern day so-called scientific discovery. If some discovery conflicts with the Holy Bible, the discovery is mistaken, NOT the Bible!

A few children take longer to learn this important fact, but each Etheldreda Child does know it now, even if those lessons were painful at the time. I always remind them that while they're on my watch, they will NOT be subjected to the Lies of Satan.

[Basilissa]

Re: John 2:20 - How old was Jesus?

Thank you Pastor Rune Enoe! Your evidence is straight forward and convincing!

I believe Jesus lived to age 33.

Random question: does anybody know how/when did this belief start?

[BelieverInGod]

Re: John 2:20 - How old was Jesus?

Thank you Pastor Rune Enoe! Your evidence is straight forward and convincing!



Random question: does anybody know how/when did this belief start?

Well first of all is the Catholic assumption that the current Calendar is based on Jesus birth. They know better than that. It was started by Ceaser and then edited a few times. There is no proof that Jesus was born December 25, 1 BC, but don't tell the fuzzy bunnies that.

According to Luke 3:23 Jesus was baptized when he was "about thirty years of age". Somehow people forget that "about" part, and demand that he was baptized on his 30th birthday or something like that.

It also seems that people take the quote that Pastor Enoe posted above to mean that Jesus visited the temple in the 46 year of its existence even though the next verse clearly states that Jesus was speaking about the Temple of his Body.


As you can see, this is the problem with fuzzy bunny Christians. You take a scripture here and a scripture there, glue the parts you like together, stand on one leg, and squint real hard and there, the Bible says exactly what you want it to say.

Don't feel bad though. I'm glad you brought this up. I was under the 33-year-od delusion. I'm embarrassed to admit that I had completely missed this post, or if it was ever mentioned in a sermon.

[Seth Campbell]

Re: John 2:20 - How old was Jesus?

Thank you Pastor Rune Enoe! Your evidence is straight forward and convincing!



Random question: does anybody know how/when did this belief start?

Probably the catholics, they invented most of the unbiblical garbage that people believe.

age of innocence
infant baptism
purgatory
buying your way into heaven

Basically anything to get the money out of your wallet and to keep you from causing them too much trouble. They used to have a rule (or maybe they still do) that only priests should be able to read the Bible because only priests are "capable of understanding it"

So they'd all be up there telling us that God demands little boys strip down and grab their ankles, in church, five times per day.

[Basilissa]

Re: John 2:20 - How old was Jesus?

Well first of all is the Catholic assumption that the current Calendar is based on Jesus birth. They know better than that. It was started by Ceaser and then edited a few times. There is no proof that Jesus was born December 25, 1 BC, but don't tell the fuzzy bunnies that.

Yes, I knew that. I've heard that Dec. 25 date was chosen to confuse/convince Mithraists that Christ was a new and improved version of the sun god (just one of many examples of twisted mentality of church leaders); at that time, the solstice was on Dec. 25, not 21. I also know that our BC/AD calendar was created by a very confused monk in 4th century AD, who wasn't that good at neither history nor astronomy

According to Luke 3:23 Jesus was baptized when he was "about thirty years of age". Somehow people forget that "about" part, and demand that he was baptized on his 30th birthday or something like that.

I don't want to sound nitpicking, but if He was baptized around 30, and then lived to way over 40, then what is leading people to the false assumption that he lived only three years after His baptism?

[Basilissa]

Re: John 2:20 - How old was Jesus?

Basically anything to get the money out of your wallet and to keep you from causing them too much trouble. They used to have a rule (or maybe they still do) that only priests should be able to read the Bible because only priests are "capable of understanding it"

I could not agree with you more! They don't prohibit people from reading the Bible like they used to, but it is because they can't, not because they don't want to!

[BelieverInGod]

Re: John 2:20 - How old was Jesus?

Yes, I knew that. I've heard that Dec. 25 date was chosen to confuse/convince Mithraists that Christ was a new and improved version of the sun god (just one of many examples of twisted mentality of church leaders); at that time, the solstice was on Dec. 25, not 21. I also know that our BC/AD calendar was created by a very confused monk in 4th century AD, who wasn't that good at neither history nor astronomy



I don't want to sound nitpicking, but if He was baptized around 30, and then lived to way over 40, then what is leading people to the false assumption that he lived only three years after His baptism?

Okay, this is just from a quick internet search, but it seems to be because only three passovers are mentioned in the Bible (John 2:13 , John 6:4 , and John 13:1 ). So, somehow they're under the assumption that because only 3 Passovers are mentioned, only 3 years went by. Not quite sure where that idea came from, but there it is.


I don't remember anything in the Bible saying he only ministered for 2-3 years specifically. If I'm wrong, I pray someone corrects me. I've been a bit addle brained lately.

[Paul Tarzan]

Re: John 2:20 - How old was Jesus?

They DIDN'T KNOW He was speaking of the temple of His Body...they thought it was the temple in Jerusalem He just cleansed.

As for Irenaeus, Polycarp, etc...they were CATHOLICS. That means I'd think you'd be calling them "hellbound papists"...but I know you and them are all part of the fortress of Churchianity.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: John 2:20 - How old was Jesus?

They DIDN'T KNOW He was speaking of the temple of His Body...they thought it was the temple in Jerusalem He just cleansed.

Care to back that up with Scripture?


Oh that's right, I forgot. You just pull your religion out of your ass.

[Paul Tarzan]

Re: John 2:20 - How old was Jesus?

Care to back that up with Scripture?


Oh that's right, I forgot. You just pull your religion out of your ass.

The fact that the second sentence started "But" implies there's a CONTRAST between what the Pharisees thought and what He actually meant.

Twice near the end of that Gospel, John writes that there are many other things Jesus did which are not written in the Gospels...kinda blows a hole in your "Scripture or it's not so" theory.

As for the last sentence, I see you've resorted to vulgarity...that is proof that you've already lost.

[Didymus Much]

Re: John 2:20 - How old was Jesus?

...Twice near the end of that Gospel, John writes that there are many other things Jesus did which are not written in the Gospels...

SO, if something's NOT there, you feel justified in filling the gaps, HOW?

...kinda blows a hole in your "Scripture or it's not so" theory...

As your proferred replacement amounts to: "not Scripture so it is so", not so much.

...As for the last sentence, I see you've resorted to vulgarity...that is proof that you've already lost.

Jesus was also quite rude to those who would not listen to Him. Just sayin'.

[Mistress Cookie]

Re: John 2:20 - How old was Jesus?

Random question: does anybody know how/when did this belief start?

As the Catlick congregations were dwindling over the centuries, I think the Vatican lowered Jesus' age, as the thinking was "Only the Good Die Young" (what with Marilyn and Jimmy Dean and Elvis being so popular with the kids etc...)

It really shows you where their thinking is!

[Christian_soldier]

Re: John 2:20 - How old was Jesus?

How old was Jesus? Shall we just say timeless and eternal, duh!