[Vessel of Christ]

Re: i listen to heavy metal, am i going to hell?

well, am i? i listen to iron maiden mettalica, megadeth etc. will i be damned because of this?

Yes, but you can repent, and be forgiven!


2 Chronicles 7:14 " If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land."

[Didymus Much]

Re: i listen to heavy metal, am i going to hell?

Yes, but you can repent, and be forgiven!...

Do you really think that Dave has been waiting for 8 years for that?

[Alphonse Alban]

Re: i listen to heavy metal, am i going to hell?

Do you really think that Dave has been waiting for 8 years for that?

I don't get it. I tried looking for "Dave" and I only found this.
What does some gypsy have to do with an eight years wait?

[Vessel of Christ]

Re: i listen to heavy metal, am i going to hell?

Do you really think that Dave has been waiting for 8 years for that?

Its never too late to repent!


2 Chronicles 7:14 - If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

1 John 1:9 - If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

Acts 3:19 - Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;

Luke 13:3 - I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

Ezekiel 18:21-23 - But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die.


Acts 17:30 - And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

2 Peter 3:9 - The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

[hannahannwake]

Re: i listen to heavy metal, am i going to hell?

Heavy metal is absolutely satanic!

Ephesians 4:27
"Never give place to the devil."

If you listen to satanic music such as heavy metal you are giving place to the devil and are most certainly Hell-bound. That's why there is no such thing as Christian heavy metal! If a music genre is born of the devil to begin with, how can there be a Christian version?

My eldest son once tried to listen to so-called "Christian heavy metal". He absolutely received a stern beating after that, and was locked in his room in solitude for several days.

[johnraymond]

Re: i listen to heavy metal, am i going to hell?

Heavy metal is absolutely satanic!

Ephesians 4:27
"Never give place to the devil."

If you listen to satanic music such as heavy metal you are giving place to the devil and are most certainly Hell-bound. That's why there is no such thing as Christian heavy metal! If a music genre is born of the devil to begin with, how can there be a Christian version?

My eldest son once tried to listen to so-called "Christian heavy metal". He absolutely received a stern beating after that, and was locked in his room in solitude for several days.

But there are good Christian people who make metal Music, people who give to the poor and give to the church, who have repented of their sins and are following Christ, and trying to lead those who would otherwise go to hell to the devil.

I listen to metal all the time, by such wonderful bands as Theocracy and Petra, people who are devoted deeply to Christ. How can you say that they'll go to Hell?

And besides, where in the Bible does it say that any kind of music is from the devil? Music is just like anything else: it can be used for the glory of God, or for the Devil; simply because most metal bands are devil-worshipping doesn't mean that there can't be Christ-worshipping ones too.

[Roland]

Re: i listen to heavy metal, am i going to hell?

[...]

Hello John,

The polite thing to do is introduce yourself. For this reason we have an introduction thread right here. There you can tell us what church you go to and what your favorite Bible verse is and how you came to find Jesus.

Kind regards,

Roland

[Thomas Taylor]

Re: i listen to heavy metal, am i going to hell?

But there are good Christian people who make metal Music, people who give to the poor and give to the church, who have repented of their sins and are following Christ, and trying to lead those who would otherwise go to hell to the devil.

I listen to metal all the time, by such wonderful bands as Theocracy and Petra, people who are devoted deeply to Christ. How can you say that they'll go to Hell?

And besides, where in the Bible does it say that any kind of music is from the devil? Music is just like anything else: it can be used for the glory of God, or for the Devil; simply because most metal bands are devil-worshipping doesn't mean that there can't be Christ-worshipping ones too.

Hello John.


I understand that this is your first time here so you can be forgiven for not following the clear concise instructions at the top of the page. If you need spectacles there is a wonderful optician in Landover that can help you out.


Now on to your music:


Theocracy - a state/country controlled by the church, usually Catholics or Mooslims. Not really a good choice in my opinion.


Petra - a place in Jordan. A Mooslim country.


Please tell us, are you a Mooslim?


If so we can help you become apostate. All you have to do is accept Jesus as your Lord and Saviour and tell us all about the disgusting deeds you have performed while under the influence of alan the moon god.

[johnraymond]

Re: i listen to heavy metal, am i going to hell?

@Roland: done. Thanks for pointing me over there.

@Thomas Taylor: you intend to prove that I'm a muslim? Why?

FYI, the name of the band Theocracy give reference to the fact that Christianity is, in a way, a true theocracy, a nation ruled by God. Petra is the Greek word for rock, refering to the fact that the LORD is our rock.

2nd Samuel 22: [ David’s Song of Praise ] David sang this song to the Lord on the day the Lord rescued him from all his enemies and from Saul. He sang: “The Lord is my rock, my fortress, and my savior; my God is my rock, in whom I find protection. He is my shield, the power that saves me, and my place of safety. He is my refuge, my savior, the one who saves me from violence. ...

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: i listen to heavy metal, am i going to hell?

@Roland: done. Thanks for pointing me over there.

@Thomas Taylor: you intend to prove that I'm a muslim? Why?

Um, for security reasons?

[johnraymond]

Re: i listen to heavy metal, am i going to hell?

What could I honestly do even if I were a muslim to a group of forums? Really.

And besides, when is the last time you heard of a muslim listening to metal music? It's actually abhorent to them; they see it as a part of America, like Rock, and hate everything about us.

[Basilissa]

Re: i listen to heavy metal, am i going to hell?

And besides, when is the last time you heard of a muslim listening to metal music? It's actually abhorent to them; they see it as a part of America, like Rock, and hate everything about us.

Amen! All of Muslims hate America and all of Muslims hate rock. No exceptions.

[Elijah Mee, PhD]

Re: i listen to heavy metal, am i going to hell?

What could I honestly do even if I were a muslim to a group of forums? Really.

We've had incidents in the past where muds have attempted to jihadify our Freehold server farm.

Luckily, none of these incidents were successful -- except in ending muslim lives. I suppose you could call them a success after all.

I wasn't there but I understand the children of Freehold recently had a wonderful afternoon when a mudman failed to detonate correctly. Apparently the poor thing couldn't work out what button to press, which was rather odd because his little kamikaze suit only had one button. Oh well, I heard the children enjoyed a game of "knock the rag off the raghead's head" with the weightiest rocks they could find.

Nevertheless, we're always vigilant. The LORD looks after us, of course, but you never know when He might turn His attention. He is remarkably inconsistent when it comes to those He chooses to assist. Naturally, this is a sign of His superior wisdom and unquestionable decision-making skills. Praise Him!

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: i listen to heavy metal, am i going to hell?

I THESSALONIANS 5:22 Abstain from all appearance of evil.
context .. kjv

The Black Sabbaths, The Judas Priest, The Led Zeppelin and The Deep Purples originated a "metal" sound decades ago. It was a successful export to America. Previously there had been overtly satanic music whether droning chants or pulsing drums or jazzed up a bit as in this example:

Notice in particular the second line where the protagonist mentions learning the power of mind and flesh. There are many ways to get obedience and the flesh, which includes ears together with the basilar membranes and associated nerves, is susceptible to some very specific frequencies of vibration affecting the mind. It's like when a certain sound makes the windows vibrate: they resonate at a specific frequency. If that frequency is coming out of your loudspeakers the windows will vibrate. It's exactly the same inside your ears, different frequencies of sound produce resonances on the other side of your eardrum where a resonating membrane tickles an adjacent hair cell.

The hair cell in turn, as it is tickled, changes shape in much the same way a baby changes shape when you tickle it. That triggers the release of a neurotransmitter and off zips the signal via a nerve to your hearing centres.

Music is a combination of different frequencies either "horizontal" (melody) or "vertical" (harmony) but not all combinations are equal. Some make you vomit. Some cause fits. Can you guess which combinations the metals have marshalled into their genre?

The Black Sabbaths in particular reintroduced a combination of frequencies, two notes called C and F# but any two notes so related in another key would have the same effect, thitherto repudiated in tonal composition as the devil's interval. In fact that is why they chose it. It has become a fundamental structure of the metal, most of which is tonal.

Some Nordic heathens have included atonality in their metal atrocities together with bizarre scales based on the effect of specific pitches. Just as the ear mechanism resonates so do other parts of the body. Vibrations can be used to massage inside your knee for example; simply adjust the vibrating source to the resonant frequency of your knee. You would be able to feel which frequency was most beneficial at once. The pelvic floor has a different resonant frequency which I suspect would also be very noticeable and all the metals use this frequency a lot. The louder the better.

Of course speaker systems have limits. By using two different loudspeakers playing similar but different frequencies, for example connected to two different guitars, an interference wave of very large amplitude can be generated in the air without blowing up the speakers. If you put both signals through a single speaker the interference wave would be generated in the speaker and it would fail. That applies to analogue sound so it would not really come out as such over a digital system (like a computer) but guitars are analogue devices and have infinitely variable pitch control by bending the strings. In that way metal guitarists can control the production of interference waves in the air of an enclosed space with very high precision. This is what gives heavy metal its characteristic sound.

The genre has been developed for this very reason and whether these so-called "Christian" metal freaks know it or not that is exactly what it achieves. Satan likes to have the whole world demon possessed whether knowingly or not and the metal is a major weapon in his arsenal to thwart Jesus Christ's perfect plan for Salvation which is why no Christian ever listens to it.

THE POWER OF FLESH TO HAVE MY WILL OBEYED

An equivalent process takes place within the nervous system. After leaving your ear the signal zips along to your brain: the hearing centres are on the sides. This brain region co-ordinates sensory and motor functions as well as hearing sound. Think how your foot will tap all by itself to certain songs whether you like them or not. You can stop your foot tapping but don't have much control over when it starts. Obviously this is an effect of the song which you can hear. The signal entering your ear has now reached your foot. Well there must be a reason why your foot taps to a country jig or whatever but not to a dirge. Satan may not be very interested in how to make your foot tap but is excessively interested in the pelvic floor which is also connected by nerves to your brain. Can you see where this is leading?

THE POWER OF MIND TO HAVE MY WILL OBEYED

And no Christian ever plays the metal. If you see someone playing metal they are not a Christian.

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: i listen to heavy metal, am i going to hell?

What could I honestly do even if I were a muslim to a group of forums? Really.

And besides, when is the last time you heard of a muslim listening to metal music? It's actually abhorent to them; they see it as a part of America, like Rock, and hate everything about us.

Muslims don't hate America. They hate Christian Americans and now that their commander in chief Hussain Obama has been shown the door by Godly Mr Trump (who surely already very nearly sits at Jesus' right hand) they will be all deported back to the Muslim countries they come from like Africa and Europe!

Jesus wins again!

YIC